Post-Football Food For Thought

What a weekend! Capped with an incredibly exciting Super Bowl, these last few days have been a roller coaster ride of Phish ticket mania.  With all tickets now sold, we may be seeing West Coast dates before too long.  Imagine what will happen to Live Nation’s site when Red Rocks goes on sale?  I don’t even want to.  Many of the frustrations we faced with their ticketing system are documented for their CEO here.  Nonetheless, as we all try to position ourselves for these summer shows, it is all finally sinking in- Phish is happening…

13699471image9b586be0479711d7…For those paying attention (I wasn’t), there was a Hampton re-release right after the Super Bowl ended.  A ticketless friend of mine pulled two for each night in six separate transactions, completely reversing his plans for the first week of March!  Maybe some of you scored too, but by the time I heard, there was nothing left.  This may continue to happen.  Be alert…

…Phish seems to be way under-priced, causing scalpers to drool at the profit margin they can make on our band and flock like vultures to the tickets.  While other bands of their stature use tiered ticket structures, charging well over $100 for the best seats, Phish should be respected for giving the people who actually get to buy tickets a real bargain.  But the increasing number of fans who have been forced to scalp from brokers have had to cough up an amount of money that much closer represents Phish’s “market value.”  It is becoming increasingly apparent that Phish’s “market value” today is between $100 and $400 dollars depending on the size of the venue and the quality of seat.  As someone on this comment board brought up over the weekend, would it help if Phish tickets cost $100, therefore decreasing the profit margin to be made by scalpers?  Maybe this is one step, albeit counter-intuitive, to reducing broker interference with the Phish scene.  If there isn’t enough money to be made, maybe they will go elsewhere?  Maybe not…

phish2People in Ashvelle got screwed on Friday. After being told that 400 tickets would be sold at the Civic Center, over 150 people waited for over a day to score these tickets.  The fans even organized their own list of names so people didn’t need to remain lined up, creating a mini-Phish lot party.  Yet when 10 am Friday came, an “error” in the Ticketmaster computer system released the 400 tickets that were to be held for Asheville’s box office, resulting in only twenty locals scoring stubs for the summer’s second smallest show.  Sorry Asheville people, that sucks…

…Let’s hear it for!  Out of the four ticket systems used for tickets this weekend, Knoxville’s seemed  by far the most efficient.  Granted they probably weren’t hit with nearly the traffic of Live Nation or St. Louis’ Metrotix, but the system worked smoothly.  I looked for Knoxville on Live Nation before realizing they were being sold elsewhere.  Quickly logging onto, I was automatically queued and the screen refreshed every 60 seconds, like Metrotix did for The Fox.  However, unlike Metrotix where I never saw another screen, I was quickly brought into the site, pulled up a 100 level after searching for a floor ticket twice, and checked out without hassle.  Compared to all my other attempts this weekend, this was a breeze…

image-ba5300d6449611d7…Hampton is now officially one month away! What once seemed like an eternity has been condensed to only four weeks of waiting.  What seemed like fantasy is now an impending reality!  Using the future tense to predict what might happen will soon be out the window, as we will be talking about what Phish is doing on a nightly basis.  There couldn’t be a more fitting venue than Hampton to launch round three; with a purely GA free for all, things will be insane and explosive to say the least.  People have referenced the last comeback, saying these Hampton shows will merely be sloppy warm-ups.  And while I agree that Summer will be a different story when all is said and done, I have a feeling these first three shows are gonna’ be a hell of a lot different from the last return.  I’m not going on anything but intuition, but it just feels different- way different…

…I guess Phish 3.0 is all about trading tickets online.  In a flurry like nothing I’ve ever seen, fans have been wheeling and dealing all over the web, trading, selling, and scoring any and all tickets they need.  I like it; it’s very democratic.  While I do believe you can get tickets at shows, it is always nicer to have yours beforehand, and it seems like more fans are trying to do that.  This can only be a good thing.  I am trying to devise a tool to facilitate this exchange. Stay tuned…



7.24.98 Woodlands Pavilion, Houston, TX SBD < LINK

1998-07-24moToday we have a leaked SBD of a dark-horse Summer ’98 show.  The second set starts off with the funkalicious combo of “Wolfman’s > 2001,”  before taking an abrupt left turn into the rare “Scent of a Mule.”  A set-ending “Slave,” “Chalk Dust” one-two punch, punctuated a fine night in Texas.  The first set contained the summer’s omnipresent “Moma Dance” and psychedelic segments of improv in “Stash” and “Taste.” Enjoy the SBD!

I: The Moma Dance, Runaway Jim, Bouncing Around The Room, Stash, My Soul, Taste, Golgi Apparatus, Loving Cup

II: Wolfman’s Brother > Also Sprach Zarathustra > Scent of a Mule > Ha Ha Ha > Scent of a Mule, Slave to the Traffic Light, Chalkdust Torture.

E: Character Zero

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137 Responses to “Post-Football Food For Thought”

  1. camman Says:

    man, im starting to become aware of just how bummed im going to be the weekend of Hampton…. if they dont simucast it im going to be glued to a computer…

  2. Mitch Says:

    these are the ones i got from tm. not even from the band. tm did them ptbm style. so psyched!

  3. camman Says:

    i cant see the pic mitch….. my school has mediafire black listed

  4. Mitch Says:

    ok hang on

  5. Mitch Says:
  6. camman Says:

    would you email me a picture of them?

  7. kevin are hollo Says:

    i’ve gotta throw my 2 cents in here…

    before everyone starts to react to the whole “supply/demand” and market forces, clamoring for stadium gigs and megafestivals, let’s recap what we know to be true:

    -acoustics are an important part of a concert in which dynamics (loud/soft, hard/delicate) play a large role

    -spontaneous and improvisational playing thrives on room and audience energy + interaction

    -more audience members does not equal more/better energy in a room/space, or a better concert experience for those in atttendance

    -the farther away the musicians are from the audience, the more “removed” one can become from the overall experience (both performer and listener/dancer)

    if you hold these tenets to be true (and i’m all ears to anyone who can dissuade me that they’re not integral to what phish has sorta stood for over the years), then i hope you agree that a small intimiate theatre show is more appropriate than a stadium gig.

    RKF? Giants Staduim? tiny figures on a tiny stage and jumbotrons? no thanks.

  8. Mitch Says:

    just posted it to my own site camman

  9. showhe Says:

    On the topic of tix trading and I know this was mentioned a few time, but adding a ride board might be of interest for some people as well. I don’t think it would be too hard to add, using the same web layout as the tix trade board…just an idea.

  10. colonelforbinn Says:

    damn mitch, those hampton tickets look pretttttty sweeeeeeet.

    i’m jealous 🙂

  11. Mitch Says:

    if we can get a template built, it shouldnt be hard to add another column for needs a ride.

    good idea showhe.

  12. Chalkdustin Says:

    Those tickets are so narly looking! I love them. It’s getting closer…

    The trading and ride boards are a good idea. I’d be on board for those (no pun intended) indeed.

  13. camman Says:

    i must admit.. those tickets are the most gorgeous thing i’ve ever seen…. uggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg

    as far as stadium shows go… i thinki a few thrown in here and there would be sweet, but not a stadium tour..

  14. camman Says:

    also mitch,

    im digging the stripped pants in the bottom of the pic…

  15. Mitch Says:

    im still at home in my pj’s drinking coffee and eating a bagel… i emailed my buddies and they all commented on the pants too.

    guess next time i gotta crop it. i was too enthused to get it posted.

  16. camman Says:

    haha mitch its good, i wasn’t giving you shit… it took me several minutes to relaize.. i am fucking mesmerized by those tickets… i can’t stop looking at them… what will summer tour tickets look like?

  17. Mitch Says:

    they are always different. im just stoked that even the ticketmaster ones look like ptbm ones.

  18. camman Says:

    what do you mean ptbm ones? ive seen the pictures of tickets miner has posted on here and none ive seen have looked THAT awesome…

  19. showhe Says:

    IT tickets:

  20. cjowo Says:

    i love this show! awesome loving cup to close first set. set 2 speaks for itself. and its an SBD taboot!

  21. Pence Says:

    any one have some alpine(both nights) they need to get rid of?

  22. camman Says:

    the IT tickets are sweet…. but i still Hampton is sweeter

  23. silasnellie Says:

    I have extra Asheville tickets to trade for Fox. I am trying to find a trade to keep the middle men out.

  24. wanderin Says:

    I am one of those who had issues with trying to purchase tickets since they announced they were back. I am ok with not getting tickets, just a bit frustrated at the process. On friday and saturday when the tix were on sale (, there was a link saying that on midnite on the day of the show at whatever city you are planning on seeing the band that will be releasing tickets for sale. I dont know if anyone else saw that message, but I thought I would post it.

    Now I will just wait until they announce shows west of the Mississippi. I will hope and try for the best then.

  25. contact420 Says:

    Phish announced an apology on their web-site!

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