Weekend Nuggets: The Gorge ’97
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The Gorge
As the upcoming Gorge shows sold out yesterday, this weekend we will travel back in time to the summer of 1997 and Phish’s first visit to the venue. Pulling into central Washington at the beginning of August, Phish was midway through their summer of deep funk and this translated beautifully to the open air beauty of The Gorge. The first night was darker and dancy, wile the second was celebratory and triumphant. After this initial visit, Phish felt right at home at the best venue of the west coast.
8.2.97 The Gorge, George, Washington < LINK
8.2.97 The Gorge, George, Washington < TORRENT LINK
I: Theme From the Bottom, Ginseng Sullivan, Ghost, Dogs Stole Things, The Divided Sky, Wolfman’s Brother, Water in the Sky, Split Open and Melt
II: Down With Disease > Tweezer > Down with Disease > Johnny B. Goode, Sparkle, Wading in the Velvet Sea, Loving Cup, Tweezer Reprise
E: Harry Hood*
*Trey asks Chris [Kuroda] to turn the stage lights off; band jams in darkness to the stars.
Source: Schoeps CCM4>Sonosax>SV-MD1 (FOB)
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8.3.97 The Gorge < LINK
8.3.97 The Gorge < TORRENT LINK
I: Bathtub Gin > Foam > Samson Variation, Dirt, Vultures, My Mind’s Got a Mind of Its Own, Twist, Jesus Just Left Chicago, Limb By Limb, Character Zero
II: Julius, Simple, Fluffhead, Lifeboy, Taste, Hello My Baby, Frankenstein
E: Bouncing Around the Room, Slave to the Traffic Light
Source: Schoeps MK5 (FOB)
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VIDEO OF THE WEEKEND:
“Gumbo” 7.17.98, The Gorge
Tags: 1997, Weekend Nuggets
@ Mugician: check out Amsterdam, 2/17/97, Milan 2/20/97 SBD!, 2/23/97 Cortemaggiore, Stuttgart 2/26/97, Lille 6/25/97, Amsterdam 7/1 & 2/97, Lyon 7/09/97. All MUST Havs. From 1998 Euro: Copenhagen 6/30, 7/01, 7/02/98! Check at Phishows.com (the Copenhagen shows and most others sound awsome!)
@ Mug –
That’s kind of what the current ticket situation has done for us. I used to schedule my tour runs around the shows that I knew I wanted to see. I’d go for the three or four shows closest to home, and then usually try one road trip each tour. I’d always plan out everything, and the tickets would just sort of fall into place. Now, I gotta try to get tickets for every show (knowing that I’ll get shut out of most of them), and then plan my trips around whatever tickets I’m lucky enough to get. If I decided that I was definitely going to such and such venues, then I’d have no option but to buy taxed tickets to see my chosen shows. Instead, I decided that regardless of how much I want to see Phish at certain venues, I’ll only go to the shows that I can get face tickets to.
Last week, if you’d asked me what second leg shows I was doing, i’d have had no idea: maybe red rocks?, maybe the Gorge, maybe Hartford>Merriweather>SPAC? who knows? Now it’s looking like Hartford for sure, and I’ll stop at Merriweathe on the way back down the East Coast and hopefully be able to find tickets for that one between now and showtime. But, if i can’t find a ticket for face or less, I ain’t going in…bottom line. As soon as the demand levels off a little, and the scalpers realize that we won’t pay $100 – $180 for a lawn seat, they’ll stop snatching up all the tickets.
…and if they were to go to paperless ticketing, they’d have to have some sort of out where fans could still trade show for show. Either they go online and transfer the tickets to someone else’s name/card or something. I think the physical hard ticket is the best way to allow for trading. It may not be the paper tickets that we do away with, but rather the current methods by which those tickets are procured. No matter what, it WILL get better. Remember how fast 03 shows sold out when they came back? Then there were TONS of FREE tickets at LA, Gorge, Miami, and some of the other shows that tour. Anything can happen by the time Summer gets here.
I was thinking of something a courageous guy did in Utah recently with a BLM oil and gas lease auction. He walked in and bid up a few million dollars worth of oil and gas leases, keeping them out of the hands of the drillers, but with no intention or ability to actually pay. An act of civil disobedience. And I got to thinking about these scalping websites. Why not flood these sites with nonexistent tickets for sale, thereby forcing the scalpers’ price down to face value? The only hurdle is to somehow come up with a fake CC # that the sites will accept, which will take someone with more knowledge than me in such subjects. But the potential is, we could completely derail this secondary market bullshit.
Eh, I’m not really for paperless ticketing. My hope is that the basic tenets of economics come back to bite the brokers in the ass and they end up having to eat a lot of the tickets. I won’t hold my breath on that one.
I’m not sure when it happened and I don’t feel like doing the research, so I’m just talking out of my ass here, but it seems like the advent of sites like stubhub and ticketsnow has undoubtedly made the once “illegal” practice of scalping a legitimate and extremely profitable business venture. Sure you’d see the dudes outside of an event with some tickets trying to sell them on the street, and I even kind of respect those guys for their effort. But this horseshit of hording hundreds (if not thousands) of tickets solely based on the ability to make a killing in profit margin is senseless and just crazy. I think this is where the problem needs to be addressed. As long as I can remember, Phish tickets were -relatively- hard to come by…in a lot of summer shed shows I’ve only gotten pavillion seats a handful of times…but I always got in. Now, I can’t even get a fucking Gorge ticket 7 minutes after they go on sale?? There is absolutely no way anyone can convince me that the demand is -that- much greater now than it was 10 years ago. Paperless ticketing is a solution, I guess, but that format is rife with potential pitfalls…there has to be a better way and I think it all starts with reigning in the brokers. I’m sure they have very powerful lobbyists, so I won’t hold my breath about that one either.
I would love to see ticket trading die. It’s one saving grace is that at least real fans are getting in, but almost every one of those fans has taken that ticket they are trading with from another fans hands. I know it is almost a necessary evil nowadays, but it still ain’t right. For every fan who ordered tickets to a show they had no intention of going to, there is another very disappointed fan getting a rejection to the only show they had a chance of seeing. Me,me,me. I,I,I can only take us so far.
will most cats here be trying for shoreline tickets this afternoon?
go louisville.
Just did try…no pavillion seats available within one minute of onsale time?
reserved sold out in 10 seconds? come on now. there must be a better, more legitamate way.
All reserve gone in well under a minute. WTF!
Shut out, even though it gave me the option of pavilion or lawn; I took pavilion, but of course by the time I did all that, the tickets were gone. Oh well, who’s got my 200 section pavilions, I’ll pay double the face value (including service charges!).
*Sigh*
Went back to try for lawns and they were gone at 3:03.
Of course, there’s already 652 tickets available for the Shoreline gig at StubHub.
Now it says that it cannot complete my request for lawn either.
brootal. ugh. those error messages after the captcha are fugged!
Ticketsnow shows 384 tickets up for sale.
That was easy…tried for pavilion, got denied. Went back in for lawn…4 tickets…BAM. 2 minutes…4 tickets. Looking to spin these for 2 each night at the Gorge….giggidy
just scored my first Phish ticket since 2000!!! after an error message I might add, and I had to set up an account in the middle of my transaction…I just went for the lawn cause I figured I’d have a better shot…got lucky…and I’m fuckin stoked…now all I need is both days Gorge
OH MY GOD! Just completed an order for 2 pav Shoreline. I got like 900 error messages and the seats you could pick kept changing. Then all of a sudden pav was back up, I can’t believe this!
Nice work guys!
I have 4 Shoreline lawns, looking to turn them into 2 Gorge’s for each night. Please email me at jrosenquest AT morganlewis DOT net
score for yoos guys! wicked!
I might be a little late to this discussion, but be careful what you wish for with paperless ticketing. Right now there is simply much greater demand than there is supply. So people, including people on this board, are going to wind up getting shut out no matter what kind of system you have. But if they had a paperless ticketing system you would be completely shut out after the mail order and public on-sale dates. At least the way it is now even if you don’t get tickets through the on-sale date or mail order you know there is still a chance that you might be able to trade or score some other way. With that being said I think it might be worth it to do a paperless system for mail order only. Just my opinion. Anyway I have two extra lawns for Star lake if anyone is in need….
DENIED
The Blockbuster got 19 tickets, 8 reserved. I was next in line…nothing. Gave up at 12:45.
Sad voopa is sad.
wonder how livenation really works? what’s the recipe?????