Summer “No Spoilers” And More


latesummerAfter a meeting of the minds, Phish Thoughts has decided to move forward with our “No Spoilers” project for the entire Summer Tour!  If you don’t already know what Phish Thoughts’ “No Spoilers” project is, click here for more details.  If you want to read some feedback from the inaugural Hampton downloads, click here.  We’ve had a few months to recover and reflect on the whole experience and are committed to continuing the project – albeit with a few changes.

“No Spoilers” was initially conceived as a way to listen to the shows spoiler-free (obviously).  Even though it wasn’t part of the initial plan, it also evolved into “and get the shows up “FAST!”  The “FAST” part led to a bit of stress pre-, during, and post-show, so we want to rework things a bit moving forward.

What does that mean? We will *always* post a spoiler free AUD source link after each show. The *only* question is how long it’ll take to get the link up. Sometimes it will be really quick, and other times it might take quite a while.  How fast will partially depend on what tapers are at which shows.

We’re also working out a few ways of streamlining the process, getting more people involved and making things run more smoothly, so stay tuned for how you can help.  For now:

  • If you are attending a show near your place and would be willing to help by uploading the show after it ends (especially if you have reliable high speed), please let us know at!

We also hope that LivePhish takes our suggestion and starts offering an untracked MP3 ASAP after each show (i.e. bundle it for free with the regular tracked LivePhish downloads, but make it available immediately.)  But until they do, we’ll keep doing this.

And finally, as always, thanks to the tapers who essentially ARE “No Spoilers”- Jamie Lutch (aka Jerryfreak), Jesse Hurlburt, Mark Hutchison, Jason Sobel, and the rest.  Without them this would not happen – we are just companions on this ride.

As usual, if you have any comments, questions, suggestions, etc., please email us at



As you know, I am trying to move Phish Thoughts to 100% Torrents for the upcoming shows.  I want to know how much of a problem that is for people.  The only reason for moving away from regular downloads is that hosting them properly is expensive, and trying to host them on the cheap is a pain.

While it would be great if I could continue to offer regular downloads for the small percentage of people that absolutely can’t do torrents (e.g. work restrictions, iPhone, etc.), my strong hunch is that even though torrents are a valid option for many, old habits die hard and the path of least resistance is to just continue using the regular downloads because they’re there.

Also, we’ve done up a really quick, really simple “How to Torrent” tutorial.  It’s probably easier than you think – you don’t necessarily need to mess around with firewalls, port forwarding, blah, blah, blah.  Try it out and let us know your thoughts!  The tutorial is permanently linked along the right side under Phish Thoughts Links.



phishdestroysamericaIn a race that was finished as close as humanly possible, Robert G. edged out George Fetner to be crowned the ultimate Fall ’97 Mix-Up champion!  Robert has chosen a free Section 119 ticket to the Knoxville show on 6.10 as his prize.  Robert nailed the entire, compact setlist (unreal!), while the only thing that George missed was the date of the “Simple” jam for track 3!  I was incredibly impressed with precision of all three finalists, including Mark Leporati.  The track listing to the tie-breaking mix is below.

1. “Slave” 12.5, Cleveland >
2. “Prince Caspian” 12.12, Albany >
3. “Simple” 12.28, Landover >
4. “Split Open and Melt” 11.13, Vegas >
5. “Timber” 12.9, Penn State >
6. “Twist” 11.14, Salt Lake City >
7. “Halley’s Comet” 12.28, Landover >
8. “Tweezer” 11.26, Hartford >
9. “You Enjoy Myself” 11.13, Vegas >
10. “David Bowie” 11.16, Denver >
11. “I Saw it Again” 12/12, Albany >
12. “Wolfman’s Brother” 11.19, Champaign >
13. “Fee/Meatstick jam” 11.19 Champaign



cc_cameraIn order to make my posts look so fresh and so clean, I need your help!  I want to make each post as up-to-date and relevant as possible, so to do that, I am putting out a request for photos of this summer’s shows.  I am most interested in shots from inside the show, but am open to any that convey the spirit of this summer’s tour.  Please email any and all photos to as soon after the show as you can.  All photos used will be given proper credit on site.



7.1.99 First American Music Center, Antioch, TN < TORRENT LINK

1999-07-01moThe second show of Summer ’99 found Phish orchestrating the elements once again, as a storm that had been brewing all night exploded with the drop into the “YEM” jam, creating an experience like none other.  The second set, somewhat short due to weather, featured massive versions of “Disease” and “YEM.”  The “Disease” gets quite dark before transitioning into a Phil and Friends-influenced version of “Prince Caspian,” as this was the next time the song was played.  A live experience that you’ll never forget of you were there, this one definitely holds up on tape.  We’ll keep the torrent thing going for now and see how it goes.  I will probably have to put “regular” links on past posts per week, so they will remain accessible- we will see.

I: Punch You in the Eye, Billy Breathes, Guyute, Wolfman’s Brother*, Beauty of My Dreams#, Doin’ My Time#^, Roggae#, Water in the Sky#, Get Back on the Train#, Poor Heart#^

II: Down With Disease > Prince Caspian > You Enjoy Myself

E: Character Zero

*With Jerry Douglas on dobro. #With Jerry Douglas on dobro, Ronnie McCoury on mandolin and Tim O’Brien on fiddle (and lead vocals on “Doin’ My Time”). ^Gary “El Buho” Gazaway on trumpet; each guest took a solo.

Source: AKG 483 > Sonosax > Tascam DA-P1 > Sony D8


143 Responses to “Summer “No Spoilers” And More”

  1. Mr.Miner Says:

    Time Turns Elastic is AWESOME….more tomorrow!

  2. old dude Says:

    alumni, the orchestral version was (to me) broadway-cheesy and bored me to tears. but this, i likes.

  3. Jack O Roses Says:

    Can’t wait to listen to TTE when I get home from work! Anyone know when the full album will be released? Gotta think it’s imminent. This week, maybe?

    As far as the no- spoilers, I’ll definitely be lining up to grab the shows as soon as they’re up. I love surprises! I’ll just need to filter out other net traffic so I don’t accidentally see the set list before I make it through the no-spoilers d/l’s!! Thanks Miner for all your hard work!

    Also, I have 2 Star Lake lawns. Any takers?

  4. Mr. Completely Says:

    the comparison to Terrapin is apt because this is more of a “suite” than an old-school Phish “woked” song with complex and intricate transitions between tightly composed sections. It has a nice long ebb and flow and a big build to big crashing chords at the end.

    To make it *really* like the album version of Terrapin they need to let a clueless producer remove part of the ending and tack on a cheesy string section and choir. That would be AWESOME. They should totally do that.

  5. old dude Says:

    yeah, maybe they could get a children’s choir: “in and out of focus”
    and some gregorian monks: “time turns elastic. ommmm”

  6. Billy Breathes Says:


    Can you say ‘Rush’?

    Look for a Rush album on Hallow’s Eve.

  7. oneshowatatime Says:


    “Purchase of this item is not currently available. This item is being modified. Please try again later.”


  8. Mr. Completely Says:

    it was gone from iTunes when I went to grab it, actually. I’m listening to the MF link version. I will definitely buy it though.

  9. msbjivein Says:

    Just listened to Mike’s voice message and he said they originally wanted to call the album”The Best Fucking Phish album ever!” He never said what it’s called but I think this would be a great name. He also said the new album is “SLAMMIN”. Mike Gordon’s #212-330-9092 check it!

  10. empire01 Says:

    old dude thats funny as hell, I just pictured that part in the Walk Hard Dewy Cox movie where he gets all kinds of people involved in his masterpiece..
    good shit.

    you never once paid for drugs…NOT once.

    its definitely a song that will grow..
    around the 2:00 where page does a little solo and fishman comes in with some nice fills awesome. Then around the 5 min where they go into this memory trapped in a corner kick ass. there is alot going on.
    Then around the 8 min mark it has that terrapin sort of revival which continues to build to the end.

  11. ColonelJoy Says:

    Colonel’s TTE thoughts.

    Okay, first off, having listened to Hampton over and over again….Trey was off mostly, as to be expected…did not pack the power of Phish.

    I was hoping for a signpost, something to point to the future, to rest assured that the magic would be back…

    and oh it is. I’ve only given TTE one listen. The first thing that struck me as that while it is 13 minutes, it seems short!! That is the mark of a good long piece. Oddly, compared to their other earlier structured pieces, mostly composed over 20 years ago, TTE seems more derivitive, more connected to their prog influences than any other song, IMO.

    Someone earlier said King Crimson. I totally hear that at about 4:30…Mike sounding like Levin and Fish Bill Buford, and yes, Trey/Fripp, but it has pop sensibilities and nothing KC ever did had that.

    I’m also reminded very much of early and recent Pat Metheny Group, which isn’t surprising. Yes, Terrapin a little, but this is much progier, that connection is tired, frankly.

    In the end, it is all Phish. I love the sound. Hell, I even like the lyrics. When they nail this live it will bring the house down. I’m confident now they will regain their live form.

    All for now…need to listen more!!

  12. hawkinbj Says:

    it’s on most of the torrent sites now 🙂 As always if anyone wants an invite to What.CD shoot me an email to

  13. oneshowatatime Says:

    @Mr. Completely: Where’s the MF link?

  14. Bapslap Says:

    Colonel, I totally agree. TTE has energy, chops, composition, it tells a musical story.

    When Phish broke up Trey had said he would never write another song like “Guyute”…that he had just moved on musically and is interested in writing simpler types of songs (like Shine?!?). Well, he has returned to form and then some.

    TTE makes me very excited for this Sunday, for their upcoming tours, and even their new album. Hey, if Mike says it’s good, then it’s good.

    Obey Mike.

  15. Mr. Completely Says:

    page 2 of these comments

  16. msbjivein Says:

    It’s “SLAMMIN”

  17. oneshowatatime Says:

    word, thanks!

  18. snigglebeach Says:

    I am just glad to read, “the as-yet-untitled record.”

    Whatever it is, it is probably NOT Party Time. thank god

  19. nonoyolker Says:

    Party time would be HILLARIOUS!

  20. Chalkdustin Says:

    Just want to say that I’m glad the people on this site are open-minded individuals who are willing to give this piece a chance. I’m digging the positive vibes and anticipation for the first time this is busted out. Glad not to see any bashing on the best band in the world just because this song doesn’t sound like YEM.

    Pleasure to be here.

  21. Jack O Roses Says:

    This article brings up an interesting point:

    How does this release fit in with Apple’s new tiered pricing at itunes? My guess is that if you buy the TTE single @ $1.99, when the album is released, you’ll be able to credit that $1.99 for purchase of the whole album…

  22. guyforget Says:

    Hey all. Long time, no check in on the site. been out of town for business for the last 2 weeks. Miner, was in SF, but way to busy to hook up. Can’t believe it gets under way this week. 3 weeks til my first show at the fox. Let’s get it on.

  23. camman Says:


    thats why we hang out here and not on PT, anyone can talk smack about phish, bit it seems to take a bit of brain power to say something decent about there new stuff.

  24. Chalkdustin Says:

    Word, camman. That’s exactly what I was talking about. So refreshing to be here, sometimes even better than actual face to face conversation with people, at least for me. We get IT.

    BTW, congrats on graduating little dude.

  25. Chalkdustin Says:

    Hearing rumors of July 28 album release date. Anyone hearing this too?

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