The Final 8 ?

WARNING! :: This post contains spoilers about the set-up of Festival 8!

Picture 1As Indio is less than a week away, a leaked copy of an overall schematic for Festival 8 titled “Battle Plan” hit the internet this week, uncovering some potentially revealing details about The Halloween Set. In the festival site, there are eight campgrounds, each named after one of the potential musical costumes. Conventional wisdom would say that these campground names will be the final eight albums left alive. The campground names are:

Exile on Main Street (Rolling Stones)
The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway (Genesis)
Hunky Dory (David Bowie)
Electric Ladyland (Jimi Hendrix)
Purple Rain (Prince)
Kid A (Radiohead)
Larks’ Tongues In Aspic (King Crimson)
Oracular Spectacular (MGMT, Rumored, not visible on map)

6.6.09 (G.Lucas)

6.6.09 (G.Lucas)

Now there are multiple ways to interpret this information. The first, and most obvious, way to make sense of these campground names is that Phish will play one of these eight albums. In this scenario, all other albums should be “killed off” by the time we head into Indio. Maybe there will be a process of elimination at the festival to get down to the last album alive, maybe we’ll get “Phishbills” as we walk in on the 31st and maybe the band will just get on stage and begin one of these records – who knows?

The second going theory is that there is a secret 100th album that has been “murdering” all the other records in the gallery. In this hypothesis, the entire elimination process has been a decoy, and Phish will solve the “Who Dun It?” mystery by playing the “murdering” suspect – widely conjectured to be The Rolling Stones’ appropriately named “Let It Bleed.” This scenario would certainly fit Phish’s prankster spirit and provide the “Trick” in the holiday’s “Trick or Treat” tradition.

6.4.09 (W.Rogell)

6.4.09 (W.Rogell)

A third way of looking at the leak of these campground names is to call their bluff; this could be all bunk information to mislead us to the very end. Everyone will listen to these eight albums at their campsites to make sure they are familiar with them, and then Phish will come on stage and play “Thriller” or “Ziggy Stardust,” or something different altogether. I certainly wouldn’t put it past the band to have led us on a month-long wild-goose chase while they sat behind the scenes and laughed while rehearsing something else.

phishpumpkin-300x240It’s hard to believe that the band will conclude this album elimination game without any twists or turns – this is Phish after all. With the spirit of Halloween trickery in the air, and with a band known to fuck with their fan base, the only thing to expect is the unexpected. I, personally, believe there is a missing piece that has yet to be revealed.

A bit about the potential Final 8. Noticeably absent from the campground titles is many fans’ favorite, “Ziggy Stardust.” Again, these name may have no predictive value whatsoever, but if they do, the band has opted for “Hunky Dory,” a more mellow, lyrically-based Bowie album that wouldn’t seem to fit for a Halloween blowout. “Larks ‘ Tongues” has awesome potential, though I suspect it would lose the interest of many fans not familiar with King Crimson. Radiohead? MGMT? They just don’t seem to fit, but could push the band in completely different directions. If this really is the final eight, it leads me to think they will play “Exile” “Electric Ladyland” or “Purple Rain.” But, again, who knows?! The questions  and theories will continue to flow until the answer is revealed, and, in the meantime, all we can do is keep guessing!


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Jam of the Day:

Mike’s > Weekapaug” 12.7.95 II


The stellar end to a monumental show in Niagara Falls during December ’95.



10.28.94 Galliard Auditorium, Charleston, SC < Torrent

10.28.94 Galliard Auditorium, Charleston, SC < Megaupload

11.29.03 (C.Raig)

11.29.03 (C.Raig)

Back in 1994, the band was on the road leading up to Halloween, and this night this night in South Carolina marked their second-to-last show before they debuted The White Album. Along the path of a momentum-building tour, this show was no exception. The second set sequence of  “2001 > Bowie > Manteca > Bowie” highlights a well-played show. PS : The Audio Archive is well on its way!

I: I Didn’t Know, Llama, Guelah Papyrus, Scent of a Mule, Stash, Glide, Axilla (Part II), All Things Reconsidered, Sample in a Jar, Carolina

II: Also Sprach Zarathustra > David Bowie -> Manteca -> David Bowie, The Lizards, Peaches en Regalia, Rift, Lifeboy, Chalk Dust Torture, The Old Home Place*, Nellie Kane*, Foreplay/Long Time

E: Fee, Highway to Hell


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456 Responses to “The Final 8 ?”

  1. VTsnowboarder802 Says:

    listening to JOTD while making dinner. love the groove. bigtime

  2. Type III Jamming Personality Disorder Says:

    bubbler packed, music queued up, TV on in the background, dog lying next to me on the couch. Time to write me a setlist…

  3. VTsnowboarder802 Says:

    mitch – peanut butter inside anything is the BEST way to occupy a dog for solid length of time

  4. VTsnowboarder802 Says:

    who puts bacon in their meatloaf?

    This guy.

  5. Robear Says:

    type III, got a buddy here from the mid-west. Did you hit 10/27/95 @ Wings Stadium in K-Zoo? We’re jamming that right now. I’ve never seen so many people pass out in one show. It was like Noah’s Ark, the people fell out, 2 by 2. Super hot and humid inside, way too much pSychEdelic’s floating around.

  6. Robear Says:

    Fat B, you out there?

  7. Type III Jamming Personality Disorder Says:

    Robear, I remember that hot box. But I also remember the heat coming off of the stage. Taste that Surrounds, Fee>Suspicious Minds, 2001>Bowie, Life on Mars? encore. Fuckin’ great!

  8. Type III Jamming Personality Disorder Says:

    I just thought of something that hadn’t occurred to me. Right now, what are the fans of all of these albums’ bands thinking? Is it cool for Phish to cover them?

  9. Robear Says:

    Shit yeah! I’m in the middle of ‘Stash’ right now. A very collective high, if I remember correctly. Or was it a high collective? The “Taste that surrounds” had people losing it.

  10. Robear Says:

    I was wondering the same thing about a week ago, Type III.

  11. bright light Says:

    i too was at that kalamazoo show. i remember some guy totally freaking out on the floor midway thru the first set spinning around and punching anything in his way, and there were lots of people in his way. it took several security guards to clear things up, if memory serves. fun night and great show, though!

  12. ThePigSong Says:

    all this talk of PB and dogs makes me thankful to have mine back. He had major back surgery earlier this week, a slipped disk had his hind legs starting to go paralyzed. Scared the shit out of us, never been happier to make it an easy weekend at home with the little dude.

  13. ThePigSong Says:

    also went to school in kzoo, wish the guys were still rolling through when I was there post 2k.

  14. flarrdogg Says:

    This site rules. How about Steve Kimock’s tone? Is my avatar of joe dirt?

  15. Robear Says:

    ahhh, Bell’s.

  16. Mitch Says:

    yes joe dirt

    bells mmmmm

  17. GuitarPicker420! Says:

    @beep – I’m a scotch man myself, but I’ll drink a nice bourbon when given a chance. Had a nice 15yr. Balvenie on Wednesday. However, after of those and a beer my tab was $40, so I bid that bar adieu. For a sipping bourbon, besides Bookers, you should try Jefferson’s Reserve. Very nice sipper. For scotch, if you haven’t had the 15yr. Balvenie, you are missing out. The doublewood is really, really nice as an every day drinker too. Now that it is getting cold, I am transitioning away from tequila and back to scotch.

  18. ThePigSong Says:

    Bells…the Two Hearted has appeared down in the south recently. I’m not sure if its my favorite because its what I cut my teeth on or its really that good. None the less, I miss that place and the backyard shows in the summer.

  19. butter Says:

    Kimock’s tone will draw you in for sure. He really needs to learn to sing or surround himself with some decent vocals. After seeing him for years, many many times with tons of different arrangements, i find him very monotonous. His tone works great when he decides to “play well with others” and he doesn’t have to be the focal point of the music.

    The problem is many people worship his guitar playing and have put him on a pedestal. All of these very devoted fans really ‘lend him an ear’ and let him go on and on noodling forever. These fans love it , and are willing to pay money to see him play like that so it probably won’t change.

    Some of his better arrangements shave been KVHW (where Ray White was great on Vocals), the Phil and Friends gigs (where not necessarily the vocals were outta this would, sorry Phil, but the musician interplay was more balanced) and of course Zero (tons going on lyrically and full band interplay) The recent stuff he has done with Melvin has been interesting. Watching those 2 work together is a treat for sure.

    After seeing him play over 50 times, i’m less than impressed. Maybe all musicians are not meant to be seen that many times.
    I think i just like my Kimock not on a pedestal. I also feel like he just “throws” these lame bands together to be able to take most of the profit himself.

  20. Type III Jamming Personality Disorder Says:

    Great day to finish out the week on phishthoughts! Here’s your setlist. I’ll be here Monday and Tuesday but then I’m off to Vegas>Indio. If anyone wants to take the pen, be my guest. I’m already confident there will be a night at *8* where I will pass it on myself.

    Spoiler Alert!>
    On Sale*>
    10 am Returns
    Keep Trying (Bad News)>
    Some Get Some Don’t

    Christmas Jam>
    11am Comes>
    Making Good>
    Any Seat Will Do>
    Van Halen (Diamond Dave)^^>
    Val Halen>
    Tone (Opinions)>
    Dogs& Booze>
    Sugar Mamas

    E: Whiskey Tones

    Several tunes had extended thematic jams. Indio references abounded throughout.
    * Leakage Jam
    ** On Sale quotes
    *** MGMT tease
    **** Varied Topics Jam
    ^Psyche teases
    ^^FB tease
    ^^^ Danville Jam

  21. flarrdogg Says:

    Butter- All valid points. I certainly wouldn’t classify myself as a “worshiper” (I do know the fanbase you’re referring to). His playing does intrigue me and the his music remians in pretty regular rotation for me- especially pre-2004. Namely “Steve Kimock Band” : Kimock, Rodney Holmes, Mitch Stein, Arne Livingston.
    Seen him live less than you- probably 12-15 times not counting festivals and although he doesn’t ROCK OUT, I really dig the experience. It feels in some way profound- kinda hard to explain- it just works for me. At home, I’ll throw it on as background tunes. Sometimes the ambient, lack of lyrics thing is great if I’m focused on other things (work, etc…)
    Crazy Engine blows- although it was fun seeing Melvin git down.
    My take.

  22. Mr. Completely Says:

    @butter I have also seen kimock a whole lot and overall I totally agree with you one billion percent. He is a wizard of tone, in fact he focuses on it too much, subtle shades and colors of tone drawn out of all his exotic guitars. However his achilles heel is that he simply can’t bring himself to play with aggression – the whole hot, heavy rock tone, power chords, wailing type lead is just beyond him, and for me, a rock show without simply lacks punch and is unsatisfying.

    Out of the many times I’ve seen him – not 50, but probably 30 – he has really floored me (I mean just stunned, jaw dropped open, mind blown) about 5 of those times. That’s a low batting average but enough to keep you coming back, if nothing else is around.

    Haven’t heard Crazy Engine…they’re playing here next weekend…not sure I could enjoy it thinking about 8

    The only thing I disagree on is his motive for throwing together slack bands. I don’t think it’s greed per se. I think it’s laziness, and the fact that most of his musical peers aren’t really all that into him.

    Nice guy though, personal interaction wise. In my limited experience.

  23. Mr. Completely Says:

    good point tho @flarr sometimes it works really well as kind of trancey music

    Love Arne Livingston, he was a friend/acquiantance back in the Living Daylights days – anyone know them? – and is one of the best bassists I’ve ever seen.

  24. flarrdogg Says:

    Mr. C.- Saw ‘the engine’ in PDX last year at The Aladdin. It was pretty cool- not great by any means. Worth it to see Melvin- he’s not gonna be around forever- thought he might die of a coronary right before my eyes. Also, the bass player was some young woman who was really getting after it.
    Overall, it was definitely worth the price of admission.

  25. flarrdogg Says:

    word on arne livingston

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