Where Palm Trees Dipped and Seagulls Swerved

Festival 8 (R.Schloffel)

Festival 8 (R.Schloffel)

If Coventry embodied the dark debacle that Phish and their scene had become by 2004, Festival 8 represented all that is right in the current world of Phish. The most accurate word I can use to describe Festival 8 is “paradise.” We had arrived at a tropical site of dreams, and the entire place was set up for our ease and comfort. When contrasting Coventry’s mud-covered clusterfuck with Indio’s days of delight, things couldn’t have felt more different.

To begin with, as we approached the gate with a caravan of five RVs, we expected to wait in some traffic. After sitting on roadways for anywhere between 12 and 24 hours to enter previous festivals, this obstacle seemed like a given. But to our shock, we didn’t wait for one minute. After the thorough search for glass bottles and pounds of weed, the security let everyone through free of hassle. The only thing seized from any of our RVs were two glass-bottled Starbucks drinks. Onward and Upward!

Festival 8 (R.Gibbs)

Festival 8 (R.Gibbs)

After our team captain convinced the attendants to allow us to park in formation, we set up our home base within 45 minutes of approaching the main gates. Given maps upon entering, some exploration was in order. Prepared to walk a couple miles, everyone was pleasantly surprised to discover the concert field just around the corner from our campsite, about 100 times shorter than any festival walk in memory. The vibe of the Eight remained incredibly laid-back throughout the weekend, with well-behaved fans who appreciated the blissful setting. The entire event seemed like a Phish festival all grown-up. With amenities at every turn, shuttles to and from the lavish, nearby resorts, we certainly weren’t in Limestone anymore. Conducive to the band’s family-oriented atmosphere, the guys could hop back and forth between their loved ones and the festival in minutes.

10.31.09 (W.Rogell)

10.31.09 (W.Rogell)

The ease of Festival 8 seems to be the evolution of the Phish festival – easy access and hassle free. Providing a different feel from the absolute isolation of Limestone, this new model is quite  logical for the band’s place in time; just as Limestone defined the late ’90s. Virtually incomparable, Limestone possessed a Phishy magic that Indio could not. Just knowing what everyone had to do to reach the tip of America made those ritualistic weekends irreplaceable. The entire events were bigger, vaster, and more adventurous. We had our own city on the edge of the earth, and no one even knew. The unique majesty of those experiences will live inside us forever. But again, that was then and this is now. I’m not sure anyone who attended Festival 8 would have traded Indio for Limestone in a million years. Just as Phish and their fans continue to mature, and their music evolves, so will their signature events.

10.31 III (G.Lucas)

10.31 III (G.Lucas)

On top of everything else, the choice of locale – the Palm Springs desert – made the weekend flawless. With sunny days and cool evenings, the weather never intruded on our good times – something that can’t be said for virtually any other Phish festival. In addition, the site’s proximity to the highway provided easy access for the sundry artists, vendors and attractions. An amalgam of the Phishy spirit and the over-the-top west coast creativity of Burning Man, the art installations at Eight upped the ante from previous festivals, creating the feel of a psychedelic carnival. Throw in multiple bars, shade tents, countless couches, a jumbo-tron showing sporting events and movies, and golf cart taxis to get around the grounds, and this was most definitely not your father’s Phish festival!


Festival 8 (R.Gibbs)

Perhaps the biggest difference between Indio and Coventry is the utter joy engulfing the entire community these days. Back in ’04, we were there to celebrate a legacy – an irreplaceable time in our lives that was coming to a pre-mature end. And regardless of how much fun we had, the weekend possessed an irrefutable sadness.  Indio could not have been more opposite. With Phish back in 2009 – happy and on the rise again – everyone wore ear to ear smiles, and the positivity was absolutely infectious all weekend long. I never saw one incident, argument or bit of beligerence from anyone all weekend long, just people rejoicing to be back in the promised land.


Winged-music-noteJam of the Day:

2001 > Curtain > Tweezer” 11.19.95

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A standout sequence that kicked-off Charlotte’s second set along the road of Fall ’95.



Festival 8 (Photo: Russell Gibbs)



11.15.95 Sun Dome, USF, Tampa, FL < Torrent

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Sun Dome - U of South Florida

Sun Dome - U of South Florida

Making their tour of Florida universities, the band stopped at The University of South Florida a day after playing their legendary Orlando show the night before at The University of Central Florida, and three days after playing Gainesville. Amidst a tremendous run in the Sunshine State, a fierce “Mike’s Groove” holds down the second set of this show.

I: Poor Heart, AC/DC Bag, Fast Enough for You, Rift, Prince Caspian, Sparkle, Split Open and Melt, Sweet Adeline, The Squirming Coil

II: Wilson, Theme From the Bottom, Scent of a Mule, Mike’s Song > Life on Mars? > Weekapaug Groove, Fee, While My Guitar Gently Weeps

E: Suzy Greenberg

Notes: The band won the first chess game with the audience.

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435 Responses to “Where Palm Trees Dipped and Seagulls Swerved”

  1. BTB Says:

    Blue Oyster Cult – worst show I’ve ever scene. Almost fell asleep. Totally awful. And there music isn’t even bad, in fact, I like it. Just really boring and I think they needed the money or something.

  2. Type III Jamming Personality Disorder Says:

    BTB, was it the Genesis show where Phil Collins sang “In the Air Tonight” and he had secretly invited the guy who killed his childhood friend (but the guy didn’t know Phil knew) and he had the light guy shine a spotlight on the dude during the song and he pointed the guy out and everything? That show was awesome.

  3. HarryHood Says:

    I feel like I need a little more cowbell

  4. BTB Says:

    ??? woah. That sounds intense

  5. Marshall Says:

    @ Little Buddy – I’ve heard of 4 song-second sets, but that Canandaigua set is (arguably) a 2 song-second set (Jam is part of Theme and is Tweeprise really a Reprise when it comes immediately afterwards?)

  6. Little Buddy Says:

    Yeah. Most people only remember the Tweezer. It was extremely intense for me. It was one of my first shows (maybe my 2nd), and I was hanging with Lucy. Woah is right!

  7. Marshall Says:

    Second set comes in right at 60 minutes, minus the encore.

    I might enjoy it, but I like the variety that 7-12 minute songs offers. Phish 3.0 suits me just fine.

  8. Marshall Says:

    OK – now that I’m listening to the “Jam” I finally get what some people argue about on the topic of a “jam” being separate. In this case, Theme totally ended, so, I get it now.

    I think it’s Lycan that has strong opinions about this.

  9. Type III Jamming Personality Disorder Says:

    @BTB, have you never heard that urban myth about “In the Air Tonight”? Am I dating myself a bit? I totally remember when that song was popular there being a story about something along those lines.


    Good old wikipedia to the rescue!

  10. HarryHood Says:

    I’m with Lycan on this. I was really surprised to see that LivePhish broke up the Drowned from Darien into Drowned and Darien Center Jam. Really? Were you there?

  11. voopa Says:

    LivePhish does that for royalty purposes, I believe. that way, the band gets songwriting and performance credit for the “jams”.

  12. Marshall Says:

    I get the royalties issue of breaking the jams, but I think they haven’t been totally consistent with that either.

  13. HarryHood Says:

    I guess that makes sense. It still annoys me when I see it tracked out like that though.

  14. Little Buddy Says:

    Oh no… Not the “jam” discussion again. This comes up every few months it seems.

  15. Marshall Says:

    What Lycan has talked about is illustrated very well with the Canandaigua show – Theme ends and a separate jam begins. Jam is appropriate track title in such cases, IMO. Other times its less definite.

  16. HarryHood Says:

    I can’t remember if they did the same during the BDTNL at SPAC. That would be a good comparison though

  17. Marshall Says:

    Worst part about breaking apart the “Royalty-free jam” is what happens when I’m listening on an iPod shuffle and there’s the millisecond stop-gap.

  18. HarryHood Says:

    If the song spawned a standalone jam, shouldn’t the song get credit for it?

  19. HarryHood Says:

    Don’t blame your I-pods ladies and gents, That was actually Trey flubbing the drop into Reba……

  20. choy-key Says:

    @Miner-the titles of your daily topics are always entertaining. I love the thought process.

  21. Marshall Says:

    If you had every recorded phish show and started playing them, in order, one after the other, listening 24/7, you wouldn’t finish for approximately 125 days.

    If you just listened to one show nightly, like watching TV, it would take you approximately 3 and half years (not counting additional shows to be played being added).

  22. HarryHood Says:

    ^ woah. Shocks my brain.

  23. Marshall Says:

    Kevin Shapiro must go insane sometimes. At least a little bit.

  24. Mr.Miner Says:

    “how about a ‘paug at the stroke of Midnight on NYE!?”

    If they held out till then, it would be epic…..I doubt this very much. In fact, I don’t even necessarily think that they will play a Weekapaug to close this Groove…shows over. 😉

  25. Mr.Miner Says:

    “Sumodie, good pt. However, I don’t think staying away from psychedelics was Trey’s problem”

    ^lol. fact. you can say that again!

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