Weekend Nuggets: Fall Tour Openers
DOWNLOADS OF THE WEEKEND:
9.8.00 Albany Tour Opener
As Wednesday’s Fall Tour opener stares us down, this weekend we will take a trip back to some other indoor Fall Tour openers. Albany’s 2000 kickoff is new to the site, featuring standout versions of “Ghost” and “Bathtub Gin,” while the others are re-posts to grab if you missed ’em!
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9.8.00 “Knickerbocker Arena” Albany, NY < Torrent
9.8.00 “Knickerbocker Arena” Albany, NY < Megaupload
I: Mellow Mood*, Limb By Limb, Ghost, Bouncing Around the Room, The Horse > Silent in the Morning, Saw It Again, NICU, Glide, Axilla, Taste, Golgi Apparatus
II: Birds of a Feather, Windora Bug*, David Bowie, Back at the Chicken Shack, Bathtub Gin** > Jam > Character Zero
E: Fire
*Debut / **The jam out of the end of Gin featured Fishman on vacuum and Trey on drums.
Source: B&K 4011’s > Lunatec V2 > Apogee AD-500 > Tascam DA-P1 (@48kHz)
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9.9.99 GM Place, Vancouver, BC < Torrent
9.9.99 GM Place, Vancouver, BC < Megaupload
I. Mozambique*, Axilla > Limb By Limb, Horn, Guyute, Chalk Dust Torture, Back at the Chicken Shack, Stash, I Didn’t Know, Character Zero
II: Birds of a Feather, Ha Ha Ha > Ghost, The Inlaw Josie Wales*, First Tube*, Tweezer > Bug, You Enjoy Myself, Hello My Baby
E: Sample in a Jar, Golgi Apparatus, Tweezer Reprise
*Debut
Source: Unknown
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11.13.97 Thomas & Mack Center, Las Vegas, NV < Torrent
11.13.97 Thomas & Mack Center, Las Vegas, NV < Megaupload
Thomas & Mack Center
I: Chalk Dust Torture, Black-Eyed Katy*, Theme From the Bottom, Train Song, Split Open and Melt, Beauty of My Dreams, My Soul, You Enjoy Myself, Character Zero
II. Stash, Punch You In the Eye, Prince Caspian, Bouncing Around the Room, Mike’s Song > I Am Hydrogen > Weekapaug Groove
E Loving Cup
*Debut
Source: Unknown
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Jam of the Weekend: 9.8.00
“Ghost” I
“Bathtub Gin > jam > Character Zero” II
[audio:http://phishthoughts.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/ph2000-09-08d2t05.mp3,http://phishthoughts.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/ph2000-09-08d2t06.mp3,http://phishthoughts.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/ph2000-09-08d2t07.mp3]The most compelling segments of Fall 2000’s tour opener.
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VIDEOS OF THE WEEKEND: Festival 8
“Harry Hood” jam 10.30.09 (by RadioStarKilla)
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“Mike’s Song” 11.1.09 (by glump1)
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“Tweezer” 11.1.09 – partial (by Tyler Penn)
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Festival 8 Slideshow (by S.Colfax)
Tags: Festival 8, Weekend Nuggets
Boiler up!
Colonel, T’s enroute.
R U still going to Cincy? If so, let’s meet-up! If nothing else, I’ll be working the Waterwheel.
nice to see you back on the boards, colonel
lebron to the knicks, not gonna happen. let that one go. zero chance
If LeBroom is smart, he’ll try to sign with Orlando.
Warm weather, low taxes, fun stuff abound, a freak in Dwight Howard.
getting stoked about Cincy.. will be my first Fall Phish..
@Yborcity: Welcome! Btw, sounds like you’re based in Tampa. Miami bound?
lebron to the knicks, not gonna happen. let that one go. zero chance
^ the funny thing is that the Knicks have wasted 2 seasons planning for this!
I thought that I read on phish.net they had collected and scanned stubs for most shows, but I can’t find any mention of it. I’m trying to find some album art for 12.6.97
we got a game Robear
I’ve got a little something that’s been rolling around in my head:
Let me preface by saying that I love the Grateful Dead. My parents were former heads, so the music was always around growing up. Bought and fell in love with ‘Without A Net” in seventh grade- first show in ’92. Went on tour the year I graduated from high school- summer ’94. Been listening ever since…a lot.
5-8-77. A truly magical night for the Dead that almost everyone can agree upon. Wether you prefer ’72, ’73, ’74, hate Donna, love Brent, like it spacier and more abstract, think there are better shows from the same tour-spring 77- (pembroke pines comes to mind) etc, etc… there is an overwhelming consensus that there was something otherworldly happening with the band that particular night. I’ll spare you my opinion and song by song review- you all know- you’ve heard it. Many feel it is the greatest show they ever played and it just may be- I’m not saying it is. There is a sense, though, that it was kind of the high water mark for the band.
Yesterday I downloaded the ‘Phish Destroys America’ mix that was posted on here. Great stuff. More importantly, it prompted me to go back and give 11-17-97 yet another relisten. It had been a while. This show is in the don’t-listen-to-often-for-fear-of-burning-out-on-it category for me. Obviously it gets a lot of love in our phishy world, was a Live Phish release, comes from fall ’97, etc… My feeling is that it deserves all the credit it gets. My goodness it gives me freakin’ goosebumps. Again- you all know- you’ve heard it. My question is this: Is this show Phish’s Cornell? Is this the night when all the stars aligned and they brought IT in a way they never have before? Some feel this is the best show they’ve ever played. I may be in that camp. If not, what is? 12-7-97 gets a lot of love on this board. While I’ll concede that it is a hot show, I don’t think it even belongs in the same conversation as McNichols. Any opinions on what the show is we can all agree on a la Cornell?
*I’ve intentionally omitted Big Cypress- a whole different animal.
GP, instant classic!
is that the sportsguy on the big screen at about 3:22 of the slideshow?…shitty rainy day here in the northeast. couldn’t be more opposite than the pictures.
re:nba. I said it before, watch out for the hawks. Really ran the celtics last night. Crawford is huge for them off the bench and Josh Smith is an athletic mutant.
Robear, salary issues will keep LBJ out of Orlando. They can’t afford him. Someone on ESPN made a plausible but not entirely convincing case for Miami, though. They’re basically the only decent team with cap room to sign him.
At this point, unless you buy the Miami scenario, it’s hard to see how he can move to any team that’s not a lot worse than the Cavs are…I mean, the Nets? The Knicks? Really?
He’s in a bit of a box, really. Not sure how much better the Cavs can get, and not sure they’re good enough. LBJ himself will have to get better. We’ll see.
One last thing on that Lakers game – sucks a lot that the Blazers have to fight the Nuggets for the division, ’cause after that dunk my UNC homeboy Ty Lawson threw down, I want to root for that kid…that was awesome
@joe, totally agree – Hawks are for real – Blazers already lost to them once and play em again at the end of this road trip.
weekend talk always reverts to sports.. 😉
maybe i should start watching..
Joe Johnson has a better shot of being on the Knicks in 2010 than LeBron. Johnson and Bosh is not a bad pairing. God, the Knicks stink! Plus they should have drafted Jennings instead of Hill. 2 weeks till Albany!! Tix have arrived
@flarr, I think maybe it is, but I differ on what those shows represent. I think they both are singled out somewhat unfairly. I can’t really argue the point on the Phish side but for my own listening I can say that there are several shows I enjoy just as much as Denver. Maybe not more, but as much. However I am not the Phish scholar that many of you here are.
Cornell is, when it comes down to it:
– a really good Dancin’ but not my favorite
– the first great Scarlet > Fire, one that is top 5 overall, but not my favorite
– a pretty sweet NFA jam
– a top shelf Morning Dew
now that’s not bad. That’s a legit contender. But just from that year I would place at least 5-19 above it, personally, and a couple more about equal. And in the overall scheme of things, 2-13-70 and 2-24-74 are, I think, better shows. Perhaps I should just say that I prefer them. Many others would add 8-27-72, not me, but it’s a common opinion.
A lot of it comes down to preferences. I prefer improvisational shows, so that’s 72-74. Just my $.02.
However – my point is not to argue how many angels were twirling on the head of a pin at each of these shows. I just think that there was no one high water mark for the Dead, and I don’t think there was one for Phish, either. I think there were many in both cases, and which ones each of us pick as the very pinnacle is going to come down to stylistic preferences.
Any show with a creative open jam (whether it comes out of a Dark Star or Ghost) is going to be more awesomer than a shred-fest, for me.
@flarrdogg
IMO its 4/3/98.
more accurately, there are at least 15-20 shows from 72-74 I personally prefer to any ’77 show
just like there are a lot of 97-98 phish shows I prefer to any ’94 show, and for the same reasons
94 Phish and 77 Dead are both amazing, I just prefer the more open styles
still trying to decide how ’95 Phish fits into the scheme. Keeps climbing, that’s for sure.
I’m a sucker for the 30+ min Dark Star 11/11/73 . Actually that whole Winterland run gets a lot of play around these parts.
if you like that dark star and you haven’t heard 12/18/73 check it out – similar feel, equally epic
fall 73 is where it’s at – then summer ’74 and fall ’72 – everything else in a pile below that
back to on topic – that Knick ghost is dope, I have never heard it before
something ’09 is definitely missing is big open jams in the first set
memo to phish: 2nd set jams in first set = awesome. 1st set songs in second set, not so much.
most first sets so far this year have had one contained jam (stash/gin type deal) midway through…
actually, has there been any open jamming at all, in any first set this year, other than the Gorge Sally?
Haven’t heard that one Mr. C. i’ll check it out. Freedom Hall ’74 is badass from that era. Appreciate your insight.
@Mr. C – I am with you on 2-24-74, but there are lots and lots of moments, especially from late spring early summer 74 that are worthy. I finally finished downloading all of Project 74 and I am supremely satisfied to have every single one of those shows at my fingertips. Sleeper hot song from that year, Greatest Story. 5-17-74 from BC is just really, really hot, at least the Greatest Story, even with Donna just ruining it with her scream.
There was a 1st set Ghost>Antelope at JB this summer that almost got there. Definitley need some bigger jams 1st set. Love the 1st set Ghosts, YEM, even a Piper.
Fortunately we don’t have to narrow it down and pick just one show, but if I had to…I’m taking Denver.
Mr C.- Personally I prefer both 5-19 and 5-22 from ’77, but I can definitely hear the argument for Cornell. (Love 2-2-74 also!)
I guess it really does boil down to personal preference, but I like having Cornell to point to when somebody is *new* to the game. Its nice being able to say “Many people believe this is the greatest show this band ever played.” I really think that as a whole- top to bottom- there is some common ground there regardless of wether it is your favorite show, or not. Is this the case with Denver for the Phish?
Not saying that you can even come close to summing up, or pinning down either of these bands via one show. Just wondering.