L O S T: “LA X” Discussion Thread

Season 6: Episode 1

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  1. Lycanthropist Says:

    stumbled across something interesting

    We ONLY saw Jack’s wound in the MIRROR..

    I find this very intriguing.

    Its possible that mirrors may play a big role in this mirror universe.

    Also something else to note. That every time Charlie has almost died it has had to do with some sort of asphyxiation:

    -being hung by Ethan
    -getting shot through the throat in Desmond’s vision
    -drowning in the ocean at the Looking Glass
    -choking on Heroin

    hmm

  2. jay Says:

    definitely intriguing. Also intriguing, Faraday does not exist in the “sideways’ time line as his mother was killed in the nuclear explosion on the island in 1977.

  3. Lycanthropist Says:

    @jay

    so you are assuming that everyone on the island dies in 1977 with the detonation of Jughead?

    I am not sure if I am willing to accept that just yet

  4. Lycanthropist Says:

    I imagine that all of Dharma was wiped out for sure.

    but wondering if the Others may have some sort of protection

    although it sure seems that they all died at some point when the island sank

  5. Lycanthropist Says:

    which I dont think the bomb caused the island to sink

  6. jay Says:

    It was a hydrogen bomb not an atom bomb. Everyone on that island would have died unless they had a bomb shelter to withstand a hydrogen bomb. Also, curious. Doesn’t this bomb going off cause a time paradox? The pocket of energy is neutralized, the swan is never built, Desmond never worked there, the plane never crash. They are not there to turn the wheel, go back in time, join DHARMA, kill Faraday, etc…. If that happens, then they are not even there to blow up the swan in the first place 🙂

  7. Lycanthropist Says:

    @jay

    i am pretty sure that is why time split into two separate parts.

    There is the reality where the bomb doesnt go off to maintain continuity so Jack can be there to blow up the bomb in the other reality.

  8. Mr.Miner Says:

    hopefully this thread runs through next week 🙂

  9. Lycanthropist Says:

    @Miner

    i’ve been doin my best to keep it alive! 🙂

  10. Lycanthropist Says:

    @jay

    its tough but i think we have to approach this season with the idea that this isn’t an “alternate” reality… its a simultaneous one. One can’t exist without the other.

  11. jay Says:

    @Lycan, maybe the island is in it’s own time/universe. Why finding the island is impossible unless you go through some kind of wormhole. The explosion cuased these 2 separate time-lines to be intertwined. Thus the synchronicity that is evident (as pointed out by one of your recent posts).

  12. Lycanthropist Says:

    @jay

    now that sounds pretty good

    the other reality has always existed then. the bomb just made it possible for the other reality to make contact with our original reality.

    kind of like the Dark Tower. the bomb created a thinny or a thin line between each reality.

    this sounds very good to me

  13. jay Says:

    actually, the 2 time lines got intertwined first with the swan energy burst that caused the plane to crash.

  14. Mr. Palmer Says:

    NYT article. Didn’t read yet. Figured i’d share .

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/04/arts/television/04lost.html

  15. Mr. Palmer Says:

    I guess i have to readthis Dark Tower stuff huh. Stephen King is it?

  16. Lycanthropist Says:

    @jay

    no see i dont agree with that.

    because in timeline B there is no Swan.

  17. Lycanthropist Says:

    the plan being brought down by the Swan only happens in timeline A

  18. Mr. Completely Says:

    I don’t think the island sank due to the h-bomb directly, the underwater foot and stuff would have been vaporized

    I don’t think the bomb really “exploded” at all, I think it and the energy pocket cancelled each other out, or something

    my wife surmised that the EM force might have literally crushed or pulled the island down under the water, like the EM pocket was being pulled back towards the core of the earth…dunno bout that, interesting idea though

    talking about whether a timeline “always” existed or not isn’t really a discussion that it’s possible to have in english…we don;t have the worlds or concepts for it, really. But in the quantum mechanical interpretation that they seem to be going for, the branching worldlines would have been created at the moment of the explosion (or non-explosion). Exactly how Jack et. all are moving through the higher dimensional space that envelops both timelines (and presumably others) is unknown at this point…

  19. Lycanthropist Says:

    @Mr. P

    yeah i think you should.. one of my favorite things ever

  20. Lycanthropist Says:

    well

    i think we can think about it in the sense that the possibility of timeline B has always been there.. just as there is a possibility for a timeline C, D, E, etc..

    The multiverse effect maybe.

    Now as far as LOST as concerned, the only timelines that seem to matter is the ones that deviate specifically at the point of impact on Jughead.

    There is a unique bond between these parallel universes and they are now bleeding into each other.

  21. Lycanthropist Says:

    i do agree however that Jughead didn’t sink the island.

    as jay pointed out earlier no one and NOTHING could survive the destruction of a hydro bomb. the buildings would be gone the statue etc etc… and it would probably be safe to say that the shark woulda had an extra fin or some extra eyes from the radiation 🙂

  22. Marshall Says:

    I’m going to re-watch the LAX 1 and 2 again tonight and will post any new thoughts tomorrow.

  23. Mr. Completely Says:

    FWIW one other interesting take on the whole Jacob/X thing is to go back towards Manicheanism, or its mirror image, a kind of Gnosticism.

    The Manichean idea is that life, and the earth, is basically a prison for souls, run by the devil. If I remember right. The material world is evil in its essence, and the spiritual world of light is its opposite.

    The Gnostic view is that the “god” who created the earth, called the “demiurge”, is either evil, or kind of an idiot cousin of the transcendental “real” god who is purely ascended and unattainable.

    In either of those views we get at least a partial reversal of the good vs evil roles with Jacob and X – escape for the material world is the point – “going home” = return to spirit, fleeing from the prison of illusion.

    There’s also the great idea from the 100% genius graphic novel series The Invisibles (and elsewhere) where God (or some high level godlike being) is actually trapped within creation and is being taken advantage of by evil forces. In this view, X could actually be God! But he’s crippled, partly insane and very angry about being caged up for so long.

  24. Marshall Says:

    When the gang got blown back to “current day” to the site of the destroyed hatch, does this create the situation where there are more than one of each character on the island at once (sort of like in Back to the Future part II)?

  25. Lycanthropist Says:

    i certainly hope that they don’t tie Jacob and X to such worn out archetypes as God and Satan..

    to me it has been less about good vs evil and more about free will vs fate.

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