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69 Responses to “L O S T: “The Package” Discussion Thread”
Jughead did both I believe. It set them back to the original timeline of 2007 but at the same time started an alternate reality which began in 1977 when Jughead detonated. The characters of the ALT universe are now in 2004 with no interference from Jacob/MIB to change their decisions in anyway, so I think the ALT universe is supposed to show their true characters
need to think about it but yes I think you may be right
details of the Jughead incident are just phlebotenum (a word made up by Joss W. to describe any kind of power, device or effect that needs to exist because of plot purposes…related to the idea of a MacGuffin…the heroes often need the phlebotenum to reach the MacGuffin….but I digress)
point is, I’m sure they’ll explain the supposed mechanics of the incident
but I like this train of thought
agree that Jacob wanting to not-interfere is a key point, one that needs to be addressed b/c it seems hypocritical given how much he interferes just bringing people to the island…maybe he realized that and decided to bring the whole game to an end…
Schrödinger’s cat is a thought experiment, often described as a paradox, devised by Austrian physicist Erwin Schrödinger in 1935. It illustrates what he saw as the problem of the Copenhagen interpretation of quantum mechanics applied to everyday objects. The thought experiment presents a cat that might be alive or dead, depending on an earlier random event
the quantum-mechanical “Schrödinger’s cat” paradox according to the many-worlds interpretation. In this interpretation every event is a branch point; the cat is both alive and dead, irrespective of whether the box is opened, but the “alive” and “dead” cats are in different branches of the universe, both of which are equally real, but which cannot interact with each other.
I would expect that at some point the two timelines need to intersect, otherwise we are left with two divergent realities. may be what happens in quantum theory, but doesn’t make for very compelling television.
I need to think about this theory some more, lycan… good thoughts there.
the idea in the Schrodinger experiment is that the two possible outcomes exist separate from each other; but at some point, when an outside agent “observes” (which really means “interacts with”) the whole system, the “wavefunction collapses” – which means that the two separate “virtual” possible outcomes “collapse” into a single, real event, which is either one or the other.
If this is really modeled on the Schrodinger indeterminacy concept, both timelines can continue to evolve until acted upon from the outside, at which point one or the other is “chosen” and becomes real, and the other one vanishes – in fact it never really existed. Both outcomes only “virtually” existed up until the point of wavefunction collapse i.e. selection of one over the other.
I think Desmond might be the “outside agent” that causes this “collapse” and the selection of one possible timeline over the other – if that’s actually what’s going on.
Also: re-watched “Ab Aeterno” last night – OMG what a fucking episode that is!
I find the idea that Jacob thinks he “isn’t interfering” laughable since he is bringing people to the island; I find him and the MiB to be more and more different sides of the same coin, and hope that in the end, a “none of the above” choice is made…
I find it very interesting that in an ep that heavily features Jacob in white, and the MiB in, well, black, at the end the key influential role is played by Hurley…wearing his bright red shirt. I think Hurley might end up being the none of the above. He might, right at the end, kind of call BS or shenanigans on a situation that everyone else is taking very seriously….
Do you think Isabella really told Hurley to tell Richard to stop the MiB? I don’t. I think that’s Hurley’s first step into being one of the players.