The Aftermath

“dear phish lotto, I hope you die in a fire”

“Never been so stoked to see a $324 charge on his credit card!!!”

“The MO ticket goddesses rejected her…booohoooo”


“Who’s got my extras…??? i need Phish tix”

“The Phish lottery did me right!!!”

“Phish tickets sucks…No if’s and’s or butt’s about it. It’s a scam like spam.”


“tickets are for noobs”

“Best birthday surprise ever (revealed at dinner): we won the ticket lottery. See you at the Greek and Telluride!”

“Scored 471 Greeks and 202 Tellurides! YAY!!”


"There Are Two Sides to Everything"

There are two sides of every coin. Regardless of what names one affixes to them – the good and the bad, the happy and the sad, the lightness and the darkness – all experiences are split in two, allowing for life’s peaks and valleys. Yesterday, this dichotomy became evident as as emails rolled back from Phish, pronouncing our pre-season ticket fates. Above were excerpts from my friends’ Facebook status updates, a news feed that was dominated by the swirling emotions left in the wake of the ticket lottery. In a cloud of black smoke, peoples’ dreams of stress-less Fridays were crushed, while many others sung a distinctly jovial tune. As is the aftermath of each tour’s mail order maelstrom, the community is left divided – celebratory and bitter – waiting for this weekend’s public on-sales.

And now everyone braces for a ticket barrage like none in recent memory, as the entire summer tour will drop within two days. Ticketmaster is hosting many of the shows, and everyone knows what to expect from their servers. But the biggest farce of the summer is Telluride’s chosen agent, Tickethorse, who will sell 2-day passes through one phone number and a janky website that will go down like Oceanic 815. The bottom line – get your credit cards and mouse clicking fingers ready. Or plan a stealth getaway to that outlet that you discovered last summer, because after Saturday, all the ticket will be spoken for – temporarily.

Ticket Mania - (P.Tschudy)

Through grassroots efforts, fans always seem to get tickets to other fans, and now with the Internet’s help, it’s never been easier. Between Phantasy Tour, Cash For Your Extra, Phish Thought’s very own Ticket Exchange,and other various message boards, the web is helping the community subvert scalper efforts. While stressing face-for-face exchanges, these fan-run sites do allow people to set their own bargaining chips, providing an friendly, online marketplace for fans to barter with other fans, instead of high-priced, geeked-out guidos with mullets. Since the modern era of Phish has dawned, and largely following Hampton’s (expected) debacle, fans have stepped up to facilitate a fair-trade ticket market, doing their best to intercept scalping middle-men, TicketsNow and StubHub.

But alas, let’s not get ahead of ourselves here people. Tickets haven’t even gone on sale; chill out for just a minute. Nobody is shut out of anywhere. And aside for the Greek and Telluride, any other ticket should be easily attainable for face value or under between now and then. Point being, don’t write off summer plans based on what the lottery spun your way, because aside for these western shows, tickets will be out there!

Jones Beach '09 (W.Rogell)

Regardless of anything else, the conclusion of this weekend’s “official” festivities will bring us into April, as the community shift gears with Chicago’s summer opener only two-plus months away. And that is what is important to keep in perspective. Most of these preseason ticket shenanigans are fueled by emotion in the moment, but in 2009, tickets were the last concern on anyone’s list, so in 2010, the situation should only get easier. The only stubs that should cause a stir in the scalping landscape will be The Greek and Telluride. Otherwise, they’d best be served my sticking to U2 and Hannah Montana, where the demand actually far outweighs the supply. But if not, you know they’ll always be there if you need em!

As we all embark on individual quests this weekend, just remember, everyone will be inside in the end. But, as always, the wait is a bitch.

Best of luck. And remember, all is fair in love, war and tickets. Game on.


Jam of the Day:

Ghost > Taste” 8.9.97 I

A standout chunk from Alpine’s opening frame in ’97; another audio retrospective of an upcoming summer visit.



Download of the Day:

8.10.96 Alpine Valley, East Troy, WI < Megaupload

Continuing today’s mini-musical glimpse on Alpine history, here is a re-post of Phish initial visit to their now-staple tour stop in the Midwest. Check out the stellar versions of “Reba” in the first set and the “Hood” in the second.

I: My Friend, My Friend, Poor Heart, AC/DC Bag, Fee, Reba, I Didn’t Know, The Horse > Silent in the Morning, Rift, Bathtub Gin, Cavern

II: Wilson, Down with Disease, Scent of a Mule, Free, Fluffhead, Hold Your Head Up > Whipping Post > Hold Your Head Up, Harry Hood, A Day in the Life

E: Contact, Fire

Source: B&K 4021 > PSP-2 > DA-P1

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  1. Myers Says:

    Congrats to all who hit the lottery

  2. Corey Says:

    Wow, what a day, what a week, and Mr. Miner you put up MY first ever Alpine Valley show to cap it off — a truly great experience. Thanks.

    But, that is not why I am writing at 4:51am.

    No, I am writing in collective response to ALL who were kind enough to send a personal note, positive vibes, and general good feelings my way.
    Ya’ll didn’t have to do that. But, ya’ll did.

    Incredible! My Mom is hanging in there. They have temporarily kept the bleeding to a minimum but have found her stomach to be lined with ulcers. A little good, with a lot of bad, I suppose. So, it’s a waiting game for me until I hear something new. Not easy when both your folks just travelled across the US for vacation. I haven’t felt further from them (and I’ve spent some good time in Japan.)

    Thank you, no, THANK YOU to you all. The outpouring of support on this board, from good souls I have yet to meet has been tremendous. I am floored. I tried to thank all during the marathon chat session yesterday, but missed a few. I apologize for this list but I need to let the board know of all these great folks on here. I really hope to meet many of you this summer and share a beer, some bane, and llfa…a lot.

    To the following folks:

    bhizzle, Mitch, angryjoggerz, VTsnowboarder, cal, zzyzx, Prince Nabby, jay, Little Buddy, DocGanz, Robear, halcyon, garretc, marcoesq, Mr. Completely, Leo Weaver, Type III, beepaphone, sumodie, Harry Hood,

    THANK YOU so much. You definitely kept my spirits up all afternoon yesterday. And my Mom thanks you too, even though I haven’t been able to speak with her yet. I will be telling her about all of you. And if I can get her to come to the Finger Lakes show, maybe she’ll get to meet some of you as well.

  3. Corey Says:

    Mr. Miner, thanks again for providing the positive spark — this amazing site — and all the great music. I should say that that first Alpine Valley show made me want to go to every one of them that followed. Bong State Rec Area every year that PHiSH showed up. Last year, I followed the buses after Deer Creek through the night. Nice to see 97’s get some attention too. That was the only full tour I’ve ever done. I should also say that the section number on the ticket matches what I received for night one of Alpine this summer. Not the FF and 120 cuz that’d be nuts.
    But I find it connects, somehow.

    However, Mr. Miner, your site has also given a lot of folks a chance to be positive, a chance to think outside of the box, to take the extra step and wish a stranger congrats on a job hire, or a new baby, or an engagement, or even Telly tickets. I know families that aren’t this kind to each other. And this site offered me a chance to feel some extra love and gain some hope regarding my Mom’s health…from people I don’t know, don’t see (yet). It is powerful. So thank you too for providing us with such a great place to vent, to support, to release, and to inform.

    The digital world can be beautiful after all, but in the end, it’s the people on this board who have displayed the beauty countless times to me and, well virtually everyone on here…be it those who write or those who lurk.

    Thank you all so much.

  4. Matso Says:

    @ Corey –
    Here’s some more support and positivity coming your way from across the pond. I wish you and your family all the best in this tough time and I hope very much that your mom makes a full and speedy recovery.

  5. PhrankieC87 Says:


  6. Matso Says:

    On a personal note, I think I did alright in the lottery. Got my Hartford 2 lawn ticket via my wife’s credit card and lawns for SPAC 6/20 (although so did my buddy). So I only missed out on 6/19, which isn’t so bad and definitely not an insurmountable challenge. I really can’t complain and feel pretty grateful really for what the universe has bestowed upon me. I may look to upgrade the 6/20 lawns to pavs, but at the moment, just basking in the feeling of having spent some money on Phish tickets for the first time in 6 years.

  7. neemor Says:

    Morning , all!

    “Last year, I followed the buses after Deer Creek through the night.”
    ^ One of my favorite things to do. The secret society.

    Hang in there, Corey.

  8. BabyBigPerm Says:

    Corey. Nice words, well said (er… typed)
    Hang in there.

  9. Willowed Says:

    Hey Boys,
    I looking for SPAC Saturday night.
    Thanks in advance

  10. neemor Says:

    Dammit, butter!
    Holding out a Jones Beach II row for Telluride/Greek.
    I really hope you find T’Ride some other way….that fourpack would allow Mango, Ms. Mango, Palmer and myself to join hands and sing along with Trey!
    *sigh*Good luck all.

  11. neemor Says:

    willowed, you see matso has lawns….
    SPAC is a great lawn venue….
    (Saying this, I want pav’s and you’re in front of me in line!)
    Miner says, “all’s fair…”

  12. Matso Says:

    I’ve got SPAC Sunday lawns, not SPAC Saturday. Like you guys, I’m looking for SPAC Saturday pavs.

    Seriously though, how is the SPAC lawn (and the Hartford lawn for that matter)? I was reading some stuff yesterday that suggested SPAC lawn was a disaster zone.

  13. Willowed Says:

    Hey Neemor thanks for the note. I landed 6/20 (sunday) in the pre sale (got Pav’s too..woo hooo)
    Need 6/19 Sat Night.
    I am letting the dust settle bit I think I have the following to trade. Both nights Hartford and Sat Merriweather.
    Again, I need the dust to settle. Me and the crew are pooling together our tix as we speak!

  14. zzyzx Says:

    It’s been brought to my attention that people are using stats to make themselves feel more important than others by seeing more obscure songs. I’m not sure that I like that, so I wrote a new feature called the Headifier. I hope people like it!

  15. kenny powers Says:


    Will I even contemplate doing PTBM. i should have known. Miner warned us. i was still an idiot and put in requests. what i got is worse, IMO, than getting nothing at all.

    i requested a pair for Fri Hartford, Sat SPAC, Mansfield, and both JB. What I got was: lawns for every show with a lawn, an utter nosebleed for one of the JB’s, and a good pair for the JB show I have since ordering realized i almost definitely cannot make.

    now i have to try to recoup a respectable amount of what i paid for these, i have to spend time and stress trying to score good pavilions online, and i get to pay interest on these shitty seats until i sell them.


    sorry, i know this is my own fault, i’m just bitter this morning. what i would like to know is why the fuck PTBM is getting the worst seats in the house. aren’t “fan clubs” supposed to get the cream of the crop? out of myself and most of my friends, just about all of us got lawns and pavilions on the extreme edges, usually at the back.

  16. [Not Tom] Marshall Says:

    zzyzx – where is this new feature? It’s early and I didn’t sleep well (thanks to PTBM) and I can’t find it.

    My rant about PTBM – they should not award Lawn tickets to big-ass shows like Deer Creek and Charlotte in the “Lottery.” Those can be had for free on the ground on the way in.

    I submitted an order on the first day for 11 tickets (to 7 shows). I “scored” 5 tickets (to 4 easy shows) …. ALL GA LAWNS that I will fertilize the lots with.

    Best part? I get to try the On Sale for everything I wanted. Yea!

  17. zzyzx Says:

    Kenny – PTBM gets the same selection of seats that TM gets. Unless you’re really good at TM, odds are decent you’re going to end up on the lawn one or two nights anyway.

    I never understood the anger over seats. You know you’re in now. That’s more than some people will be able to say.

  18. zzyzx Says:

    Not Tom – it runs automatically when you run your stats.

  19. [Not Tom] Marshall Says:

    Seriously … PTBM should not be in the Lawn ticket business. That AIN’T winning no lottery [sic].

  20. zzyzx Says:

    If PTBM weren’t in the lawn business, there would be even more shutouts…

  21. [Not Tom] Marshall Says:

    zzyzx – will the new feature show up under the “my shows” feature in, which I believe is powered by your site? I got tired of re-entering my shows all the time and using the account feature alleviated this.

    But I will enter a few manually just to check out the feature.

    Glad people are using my new screen name.

  22. zzyzx Says:

    Shutouts on PTBM day obviously… Bad seats are part of the risk you take in exchange for not having to stress…

  23. kenny powers Says:


    i hear you to an extent, but i don’t really feel the same “be glad you got in” mentality i used to. let’s face it, demand is not what it once was. last year with some persistence i was about to get within 15 rows of stage, close to center, online.

    like i said it’s my own fault and i apologize for spewing venom…i just think PTMB should not have so many crappy seats since they are with the band!!! also it would be nice if we could at least choose lawn or pavilion in the requests…it’s the least we could get since we are being charged for seats we haven’t even seen yet.

  24. zzyzx Says:

    Yes it will. Your new headified stats will run however you run your stats. Rejoice in your newfound ubervet status.

  25. [Not Tom] Marshall Says:

    I hear you zzyzx – I just wish there were some other way. Sure, for Red Rocks GA tickets, the lotto is useful. But for Charlotte, it’s not.

    I’m just cranky.

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