The Aftermath

“dear phish lotto, I hope you die in a fire”

“Never been so stoked to see a $324 charge on his credit card!!!”

“The MO ticket goddesses rejected her…booohoooo”


“Who’s got my extras…??? i need Phish tix”

“The Phish lottery did me right!!!”

“Phish tickets sucks…No if’s and’s or butt’s about it. It’s a scam like spam.”


“tickets are for noobs”

“Best birthday surprise ever (revealed at dinner): we won the ticket lottery. See you at the Greek and Telluride!”

“Scored 471 Greeks and 202 Tellurides! YAY!!”


"There Are Two Sides to Everything"

There are two sides of every coin. Regardless of what names one affixes to them – the good and the bad, the happy and the sad, the lightness and the darkness – all experiences are split in two, allowing for life’s peaks and valleys. Yesterday, this dichotomy became evident as as emails rolled back from Phish, pronouncing our pre-season ticket fates. Above were excerpts from my friends’ Facebook status updates, a news feed that was dominated by the swirling emotions left in the wake of the ticket lottery. In a cloud of black smoke, peoples’ dreams of stress-less Fridays were crushed, while many others sung a distinctly jovial tune. As is the aftermath of each tour’s mail order maelstrom, the community is left divided – celebratory and bitter – waiting for this weekend’s public on-sales.

And now everyone braces for a ticket barrage like none in recent memory, as the entire summer tour will drop within two days. Ticketmaster is hosting many of the shows, and everyone knows what to expect from their servers. But the biggest farce of the summer is Telluride’s chosen agent, Tickethorse, who will sell 2-day passes through one phone number and a janky website that will go down like Oceanic 815. The bottom line – get your credit cards and mouse clicking fingers ready. Or plan a stealth getaway to that outlet that you discovered last summer, because after Saturday, all the ticket will be spoken for – temporarily.

Ticket Mania - (P.Tschudy)

Through grassroots efforts, fans always seem to get tickets to other fans, and now with the Internet’s help, it’s never been easier. Between Phantasy Tour, Cash For Your Extra, Phish Thought’s very own Ticket Exchange,and other various message boards, the web is helping the community subvert scalper efforts. While stressing face-for-face exchanges, these fan-run sites do allow people to set their own bargaining chips, providing an friendly, online marketplace for fans to barter with other fans, instead of high-priced, geeked-out guidos with mullets. Since the modern era of Phish has dawned, and largely following Hampton’s (expected) debacle, fans have stepped up to facilitate a fair-trade ticket market, doing their best to intercept scalping middle-men, TicketsNow and StubHub.

But alas, let’s not get ahead of ourselves here people. Tickets haven’t even gone on sale; chill out for just a minute. Nobody is shut out of anywhere. And aside for the Greek and Telluride, any other ticket should be easily attainable for face value or under between now and then. Point being, don’t write off summer plans based on what the lottery spun your way, because aside for these western shows, tickets will be out there!

Jones Beach '09 (W.Rogell)

Regardless of anything else, the conclusion of this weekend’s “official” festivities will bring us into April, as the community shift gears with Chicago’s summer opener only two-plus months away. And that is what is important to keep in perspective. Most of these preseason ticket shenanigans are fueled by emotion in the moment, but in 2009, tickets were the last concern on anyone’s list, so in 2010, the situation should only get easier. The only stubs that should cause a stir in the scalping landscape will be The Greek and Telluride. Otherwise, they’d best be served my sticking to U2 and Hannah Montana, where the demand actually far outweighs the supply. But if not, you know they’ll always be there if you need em!

As we all embark on individual quests this weekend, just remember, everyone will be inside in the end. But, as always, the wait is a bitch.

Best of luck. And remember, all is fair in love, war and tickets. Game on.


Jam of the Day:

Ghost > Taste” 8.9.97 I

A standout chunk from Alpine’s opening frame in ’97; another audio retrospective of an upcoming summer visit.



Download of the Day:

8.10.96 Alpine Valley, East Troy, WI < Megaupload

Continuing today’s mini-musical glimpse on Alpine history, here is a re-post of Phish initial visit to their now-staple tour stop in the Midwest. Check out the stellar versions of “Reba” in the first set and the “Hood” in the second.

I: My Friend, My Friend, Poor Heart, AC/DC Bag, Fee, Reba, I Didn’t Know, The Horse > Silent in the Morning, Rift, Bathtub Gin, Cavern

II: Wilson, Down with Disease, Scent of a Mule, Free, Fluffhead, Hold Your Head Up > Whipping Post > Hold Your Head Up, Harry Hood, A Day in the Life

E: Contact, Fire

Source: B&K 4021 > PSP-2 > DA-P1

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1,118 Responses to “The Aftermath”

  1. Angryjoggerz Says:

    KP: I had never had any luck, like zero tickets before. Yesterday I got all 3 nights at Greek, 2 orders of Alpine, 2 orders of Toyota and first night GA pit in Atlanta. Don’t stop believing. Bottom line is, it is random. You will be in at any show you want this year, I am sure of it.

  2. [Not Tom] Marshall Says:

    The thing is I’ll bet I get Pav seats through On Sale for the four shows I “won” lawns for.

    I hope the lawn tickets decompose quickly so the grass at Deer Creek can be fed.

  3. kenny powers Says:

    sorry, i was “able” to get within 15 rows of stage…

  4. neemor Says:

    zzyzx, from the day I found your site (over ten years ago?!?), I’ve grown headier by the day.
    This feature was always inherent.
    Thank you again.

  5. gavinsdad Says:

    @Corey – chills man…thurs am chills. keep us up to date. thinking of you, your mom and your fam.

  6. Type III Jamming Personality Disorder Says:

    In a cloud of black smoke, peoples’ dreams of stress-less Fridays were crushed, while many others sung a distinctly jovial tune.

    I see what you did there…

    resorting to rainbow coloring your ticket exchange posts, eh? I like the motif. really draws you right in there.

  7. Matso Says:

    Wow brah, I’ve seen Harpua and Letter to Jimmy Page 16 times!

  8. jdub Says:

    @Corey, it is great to see people get some emotional support here when needed. We definitely have transended typical online communities by rising out of our anonimity by sharing personal stories and receiving compassionate responses. Sending along best wishes and support for your family.

  9. [Not Tom] Marshall Says:

    Haven’t found the feature yet … oh well. I’m sure it will come to me eventually.

    Still love the database. Thanks.

  10. kenny powers Says:


    good points, and thanks for the positivity. i hate to be that guy that bitches b/c he got screwed. i’m more mad at myself for not having the self-control to avoid PTBM like i said i was going to. but it’s like this built-in conditioning, starting back in the days when it really was a lottery and you were lucky to get it (at least in the Northeast). times have changed and i know this…just haven’t shaken the auto-pilot syndrome for putting in requests.

  11. halcyon Says:

    “tickets are for noobs”


    Good Morning Everyone!

  12. Type III Jamming Personality Disorder Says:

    I know you’re fuming right now (and I totally get where you are coming from because I’ve been there too), but if you really do need to unload those Jones Beach tix, let me know. typeiiijpd at gmail

    being Metrowesters, we could take care of everything in person!

  13. jdub Says:

    I have four Hartforf lawn tix for Friday. I’m not worried about moving them as Hartford is generally a high demand show given proximity to NYC and Boston. The hunt is on for pavs to Thurs, Fri and Sat at SPAC. I’ll keep my Sunday SPAC lawn and use it as a chance to roam and discover my pocket. I’m also looking for Great Woods Lawn (bringing the son). Do I wait until GW lawn goes sub face?

    Anyone have info on ticket sale locations in CT? Haven’t had a chance to research. I’ll be going in person to the most out of the way one with hopes of securing quality pavs. If anyone wants to piggy back my attempt let me know and I will get as many as we need (good seats only)

    lastly, I landed that big job I spoke of yesterday morning. Great news for me. Problem now is that my time may be stressed come mid June.

  14. Little Buddy Says:

    Let me start by saying that I;m really happy for everyne who scored in the lotto.

    I got stuck with 4 SPAC lawns. That’s it. Now, perhaps some would say that I should be thankful that I got anything. Maybe this is true. I know that I will end up where I want to be for all of the shows I want to see, so I’m not that stressed (I have given up on Telluride though), but it will take a LOT of work. All that being said, Phish has to step up and do something. I haven’t won anything but lawns in the lottery in 3.0. No Hampton, no RR, no Pavs, no tix for any fall shows I put in for. To me, this is inexcusable. I am sick of hearing about how Phish can’t handle the stress of paying employees to manage an old school mail order process. Seriously. Fuck that! These guys are millionaires. They should sit douche bag Capshaw down and tell him to figure out how to fix this. Now don’t get me wrong. I love the boys with all my heart and many of my life’s most pleasurable moments are owed to them, but I’m completely sick of the ticket madness. Phish has the ability to stop this but they won’t because “it’s too hard” or they can’t have a big organization anymore or whatever. I understand how crushing the big organization was. I’m not asking them to pay health care for thousands of employees. Just find a better way to do the tickets. Or at the very lest, don’t toss me fucking lawn seats through the lottery. I mean seriously. They know that’s bunk. I love the boys and will do whatever I can to see shows and most of us have much bigger problems than getting Phish tickets, but when I watch the Rift promotional video all I can think is – I want those guys back. The guys who are willing to be cutting edge with the way the run the business aspects of the band. Take care of the fans, please! This is getting ridiculous. Always got my mail order filled when they were at the peak of their popularity in the 90’s, but I can’t even get a sniff now.

    Sorry for that. I just had to vent. Thanks.

    Who wants my SPAC lawns? Oh yeah – no one does… Fucking lottery.

  15. Matso Says:

    @ kp –
    A small consolation, but I suspect the 6/19 SPAC lawns will move for you… That’s the first Saturday night show of the tour in the NE, so there’s going to be demand. If I can’t get pavs, I’ll have ’em…

  16. zzyzx Says:

    Matso – congrats on your new heady status!

  17. Type III Jamming Personality Disorder Says:

    okay, haven’t figured out the “headifier” thing just yet but I did notice that certain songs have been renamed:

    Tweezer Pleaser
    Tweezer Pleaser Reprise
    Why the Hell Are They Encoring With This Again?
    Snapple in a Jar
    None of this Also Sprach nonsense. We call it 2001!
    First Cous
    Ah, Page Sang

    ^those are just the ones I found quickly scanning what I have in there for myself

  18. Little Buddy Says:

    Corey –

    I am SOOO glad you had some good news to share about your mom this morning. We’ll keep sending the love her way. Take care, brother!

  19. Matso Says:

    zzyzx – thanks! On the song title front, I know what is Ah Page Sang and Why the Hell Are they Encoring with this Again? I can’t figure it out from my stats.

  20. zzyzx Says:

    Type – you’re getting warmer.

  21. Matso Says:

    sorry – I DON’T know what those two are.

  22. [Not Tom] Marshall Says:

    Lawn Tickets for Charlotte, Raleigh, and Deer Creek are NOT LOTTERY WINS.

    I almost wish I ‘d gotten an email that said …

    “We were going to award you lawns, but realize how bunk that would be, so please accept our regrets that we weren’t able to fill any of your ticket orders. Best of luck in the On-Sale. The lawns we were going to award you will be on the ground outside the entrances if you don’t score during the On-Sale either.”

  23. neemor Says:

    I, too need SPAC tickets for Saturday 6.19 b/c I’m giving butter and bigjig a ride.
    Those two fatty lawns are just sitting there (Noah)…should I just ask for those so I’m in the door?
    willowed and Mango have first crack, but they both want pavs….

  24. zzyzx Says:

    Matso – google Ah! Page Sang. As for Why Are They Playing… think about what might inspire you to say that 🙂

  25. neemor Says:

    Congrats on the job!
    Well done.
    Looks like I’ll be right alongside you on the lawn at Greatwoods.
    Some memories will be dredged up that night!
    I think…

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