The Aftermath

“dear phish lotto, I hope you die in a fire”

“Never been so stoked to see a $324 charge on his credit card!!!”

“The MO ticket goddesses rejected her…booohoooo”


“Who’s got my extras…??? i need Phish tix”

“The Phish lottery did me right!!!”

“Phish tickets sucks…No if’s and’s or butt’s about it. It’s a scam like spam.”


“tickets are for noobs”

“Best birthday surprise ever (revealed at dinner): we won the ticket lottery. See you at the Greek and Telluride!”

“Scored 471 Greeks and 202 Tellurides! YAY!!”


"There Are Two Sides to Everything"

There are two sides of every coin. Regardless of what names one affixes to them – the good and the bad, the happy and the sad, the lightness and the darkness – all experiences are split in two, allowing for life’s peaks and valleys. Yesterday, this dichotomy became evident as as emails rolled back from Phish, pronouncing our pre-season ticket fates. Above were excerpts from my friends’ Facebook status updates, a news feed that was dominated by the swirling emotions left in the wake of the ticket lottery. In a cloud of black smoke, peoples’ dreams of stress-less Fridays were crushed, while many others sung a distinctly jovial tune. As is the aftermath of each tour’s mail order maelstrom, the community is left divided – celebratory and bitter – waiting for this weekend’s public on-sales.

And now everyone braces for a ticket barrage like none in recent memory, as the entire summer tour will drop within two days. Ticketmaster is hosting many of the shows, and everyone knows what to expect from their servers. But the biggest farce of the summer is Telluride’s chosen agent, Tickethorse, who will sell 2-day passes through one phone number and a janky website that will go down like Oceanic 815. The bottom line – get your credit cards and mouse clicking fingers ready. Or plan a stealth getaway to that outlet that you discovered last summer, because after Saturday, all the ticket will be spoken for – temporarily.

Ticket Mania - (P.Tschudy)

Through grassroots efforts, fans always seem to get tickets to other fans, and now with the Internet’s help, it’s never been easier. Between Phantasy Tour, Cash For Your Extra, Phish Thought’s very own Ticket Exchange,and other various message boards, the web is helping the community subvert scalper efforts. While stressing face-for-face exchanges, these fan-run sites do allow people to set their own bargaining chips, providing an friendly, online marketplace for fans to barter with other fans, instead of high-priced, geeked-out guidos with mullets. Since the modern era of Phish has dawned, and largely following Hampton’s (expected) debacle, fans have stepped up to facilitate a fair-trade ticket market, doing their best to intercept scalping middle-men, TicketsNow and StubHub.

But alas, let’s not get ahead of ourselves here people. Tickets haven’t even gone on sale; chill out for just a minute. Nobody is shut out of anywhere. And aside for the Greek and Telluride, any other ticket should be easily attainable for face value or under between now and then. Point being, don’t write off summer plans based on what the lottery spun your way, because aside for these western shows, tickets will be out there!

Jones Beach '09 (W.Rogell)

Regardless of anything else, the conclusion of this weekend’s “official” festivities will bring us into April, as the community shift gears with Chicago’s summer opener only two-plus months away. And that is what is important to keep in perspective. Most of these preseason ticket shenanigans are fueled by emotion in the moment, but in 2009, tickets were the last concern on anyone’s list, so in 2010, the situation should only get easier. The only stubs that should cause a stir in the scalping landscape will be The Greek and Telluride. Otherwise, they’d best be served my sticking to U2 and Hannah Montana, where the demand actually far outweighs the supply. But if not, you know they’ll always be there if you need em!

As we all embark on individual quests this weekend, just remember, everyone will be inside in the end. But, as always, the wait is a bitch.

Best of luck. And remember, all is fair in love, war and tickets. Game on.


Jam of the Day:

Ghost > Taste” 8.9.97 I

A standout chunk from Alpine’s opening frame in ’97; another audio retrospective of an upcoming summer visit.



Download of the Day:

8.10.96 Alpine Valley, East Troy, WI < Megaupload

Continuing today’s mini-musical glimpse on Alpine history, here is a re-post of Phish initial visit to their now-staple tour stop in the Midwest. Check out the stellar versions of “Reba” in the first set and the “Hood” in the second.

I: My Friend, My Friend, Poor Heart, AC/DC Bag, Fee, Reba, I Didn’t Know, The Horse > Silent in the Morning, Rift, Bathtub Gin, Cavern

II: Wilson, Down with Disease, Scent of a Mule, Free, Fluffhead, Hold Your Head Up > Whipping Post > Hold Your Head Up, Harry Hood, A Day in the Life

E: Contact, Fire

Source: B&K 4021 > PSP-2 > DA-P1

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1,118 Responses to “The Aftermath”

  1. m00nshake Says:

    ^^^ wow post #1000

  2. lastwaltzer Says:

    you sir win a hot pocket

  3. lastwaltzer Says:

  4. (Formally Known As) BrandonKayda Says:

    @Henry actually I ended up not doing the lottery. Did you get any luck?

  5. Mitch Says:

    hershey park as a venue does not look like a worthwhile stop on the way back from blossom. anyone been there?

  6. Mitch Says:

    but the rides look fun tho.

  7. Henry Says:


    Yep. Lawns night one, pavs night 2. Me and 2 friends are going up. Have hotels and everything, I can’t wait.

  8. m00nshake Says:

    I’m going to try to do Portsmouth, Raleigh, and Charlotte. Keepin’ it close, this summer. I wish they were playing Asheville again, but despite what Miner stated about tickets for 2009 being the least of anyone’s worries, it was nearly impossible to get a ticket on the lot for that show. I didn’t see any on the lot, and people I knew did get shut out of that show. One friend was sold, by a security staff member no less, a print-at-home ticket that had already been scanned . He probably just picked it up off the floor right inside the entrance of the convention center. When the ticket wouldn’t scan, he was told to go over to a staff member who was talking to a small crowd of other people whose tickets wouldn’t scan. No one was paying attention, so he snuck inside.

    Which leads me to something… I don’t think Miner worries too much about scoring tickets. I don’t think he’s going to be walking around with his finger up at any of these shows either. Through his network here, and other measures, he will get tickets beforehand. Therefore, I think he is a little out of touch when he states that ‘in 2009, tickets were the last concern on anyone’s list’.

    I didn’t go to every show on the tour, but I nearly got shut out of Hartford. The only tickets I saw for sale were from scalpers, end I ended up buying a fake ticket, which I used my at-the-time disability (I was hit by a car whilst walking down the street earlier in the year was wheelchair bound) to beg my way and got in. In Asheville, the only reason I got a ticket was beause I paid out the nose for it. Again, I didn’t see any tickets on the lot. MPP was also not easy. The last night of MSG was not easy, either.

    So… although I agree that the current mail-order by Internet request sucks, and I agree that the Internet community makes it easier for us true fans to get tickets, I don’t think it’s going to be easy to get in every show except Telluride and Greek for face value. For example, I think Portsmouth might be difficult to get into. It’s a very small venue, and I was denied two mail-order requests for them. Also, the 4th of July show in Atlanta probably won’t be easy. Even Raleigh might not be easy.

    I am hoping and praying for the best for tomorrow and Saturday.

  9. beepaphone Says:

    If I was heading in that direction I wouldn’t miss Hershey. They’ll have already played Toyota and should have their stadium vibe in full swing.

    I learned my lesson after having my shitty reserved seats at Toyota last year though. Getting GA and getting up close enough that the rest of the venue doesn’t matter.

  10. Willowed Says:

    Any of you guys watch Fringe? One of the best shows on TV.

  11. Willowed Says:

    OK Gotta run. Need to get me a hot pocket

  12. Little Buddy Says:

    Don’t miss Hershey. Sunday show.

  13. halcyon Says:


    Tickets go on sale to the public for Phish’s August 9th and 10th Telluride Town Park shows beginning tomorrow, Friday April 2nd, at Noon Mountain Time.

    In an effort to curb scalping and put tickets directly into the hands of fans, we are introducing paperless, non-transferable tickets for ALL Phish tickets sold via Instead of a paper ticket, you bring the credit card used for your ticket purchase and it will be swiped. Once your ticket purchase is identified, it will be immediately traded for a 2-day wristband. Tickets for this show are only available as part of a 2-day ticket for entry to both 8/9 and 8/10. You cannot purchase tickets for individual days. Paperless entry does not apply to fans who purchased their tickets via Phish Tickets.

  14. halcyon Says:

    Possible solutions oriented way to discourage scalping, and ensuring those that want to go have a decent shot at going.

    Do not buy from scalpers!

  15. Mitch Says:

    beep, kinda why i didnt wanna go. toyota looked like a place i wouldnt deal with a 2 hour ride for. take that with some salt cause i’m having to organize vacation days to work all these east coast shows. thats why im not as hard pressed.

  16. beepaphone Says:

    yeah If i lived out on the east coast I’d skip it for sure if it meant making some of those other spots out there.

  17. m00nshake Says:

    by the way they have a presale for the Toyota park shows right now on Ticketmaster. The password is SUMMER.

  18. Angryjoggerz Says:

    Wow, gone for 6 hours, still talking hot pockets

  19. Stupendous a.k.a The Beasel Says:

    Man BTB fest sounds like the feast ive been waiting on all of my life…
    Wish I could go, plus the venue looks sick

  20. Stupendous a.k.a The Beasel Says:

    nobody showing love for Lean Pockets?

  21. AintNoTele Says:

    So how many scalpers do you think are going to grab up tons of tickets during the public onsale and have to eat them cuz they didnt read the warning. As much as I want to stick it to them, I would hate to have a scalper eat a ticket that could have been mine. I can’t think of any way for them to get around the credit card presentation deal, can ya’ll? Hopefully this will be a fair fight

  22. AintNoTele Says:

    ^ To T-ride that is

  23. zzyzx Says:

    Few because it’s their jobs to know this…

  24. gus Says:

    ahh I wish i was going to toyota park, just went to ticketmaster for fun to see what tickets i could score for the presale and got four field tickets

    any presales for jones beach?

  25. Stupendous a.k.a The Beasel Says:

    Imaginary Set List 2 NIght Run

    I: Gotta Jiboo, Dinner & a Movie>I Saw It Again, Talk, Foam, Kill Devil Falls>
    Taste, Stash

    II: Sand> Tweezer> Piper> Light> Sleep Again, Thunderhead, Undermind>
    NICU, Split Open & Melt

    E: Harry Hood


    I: Wilson, Bathtub Gin, Water In The Sky, Gumbo> Birds of a Feather>
    Moma Dance, Divided Sky, Julius, Lawn Boy, Golgi Aparatus

    II: Camel Walk, Limb by Limb>The Sloth, Billy Breathes, Mound, David Bowie,
    Mike’s Song> I am Hydrogen>Run LIke An Antelope>Weekapaug Groove

    E: Waste, YEM> Halley’s Comet

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