L O S T: “Happily Ever After” Discussion Thread

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  1. Mr.Miner Says:

    Holy timeline intersection, Batman! That was a profound, psychedelic, and amazing episode. It’s all coming together.

  2. (Formally Known As) BrandonKayda Says:


    So much to say

    Desmond broke the wall between ALT and original timeline

    He has found his “constant” again in Penny, after losing her in the original timeline (taken by Widmore)

    Eliouse was trying to warn him when she spoke about violating the rules – he was melding the ALT and original time together through black-outs much like on the boat in Season 5.

    I wonder if he will sell Sayid out or not, seeing as he seemed pretty content until Sayid jumped and broke that dude’s neck and told him to come with him.

    There are many other things to discuss (the inclusion of Charlie, and his role in all of this, that mysterious Cab driver who for some reason, and I may be wrong here, makes me think he might be the mIb breaking the rules with a new image – that’s unlikely though)

    That sure as hell was an incredible episode. Mindfuck

  3. bright light Says:

    Pure magic! So great to see Desmond as the bridge between the timelines, with Charlie and Farraday helping him along the way. Gotta process before commenting further, though I did think it was interesting that the black side was “winning” in Widmore’s scales in the alt timeline.

    Wonder if Desmond and Penny will be double dating at the coffee shop w/Sawyer and Juliette?

    Great, great episode.

  4. Adam S Says:

    The “mysterious cab driver” was Minkowski, who died on Widmore’s freighter, because he didn’t have a constant.

  5. bhizzle Says:

    I like how “love” is the link that makes them start to thinking about the alternate………uh, I mean go redskins!

  6. Lycanthropist Says:

    yeh this was a fantastic episode

    I am so glad we are starting to get some universe crossover

  7. wilson8or Says:

    I agree, Hizzle. (not about the redskins). But Love is definitely what Hawking wanted Desmond to avoid, and what made Faraday er..Daniel Widmore to write a complicated physics problem explaining (In my theory) the alternate universe. And how cool was it when Soul-less Sayid led Happy-Go Lucky Desmond away? It was like two opposites marching away to the jungle.

  8. [Not Tom] Marshall Says:

    Now that the crossover had begun, I really hope it continues (i.e., doesn’t skip a week). There’s too little time left to do anything but follow a linear path at this point – at least that’s my hope.

  9. Type III Jamming Personality Disorder Says:

    so how’s your theory holding up now, Lycan? 😉

    when Fereday asked about whether Desmond ever wondered if this life wasn’t meant to be their life, it really brought both timelines together for me. No matter what the timeline, these people are who they are. What changes are the choices they make.

    I find it interesting that there are basically two major things going on with regards to “resolving” the two timelines. One is the struggle between Jacob & MiB and that whole good-versus-evil-or-destiny-versus-free-will thing (which fits with Lycan’s theory) and then you have the scientific element driven by Widmore through Desmond and understood most completely by Fereday (and apparently his mother). Widmore appears to be the cynical scientist using the energy of the island to “right” things rather than waiting for the potential outcome of the choices people make.

  10. [Not Tom] Marshall Says:


    will Jack see Kate?

    Who will Sawyer see? Kate too? juliette? Both? I think it’s been est now that Sawyer goes with Juliette. Can she come back to life in the converging timelines?

  11. Lycanthropist Says:

    I dont think anyone will be brought back to life persay.

    But I do think, that there essence might be reborn or something like that.

    I am not really sure where my theory stands now.

    Leave to science to destroy faith 😉

    There were sooo many parallels in this episode.

    And I would say its safe to say that Desmond is on the quest to wake up both universes to the other.

    The outside influence in the Schrödinger’s cat example

  12. wilson8or Says:

    I think Juliette will be David’s (Jack’s son’s) father., but Sawyer will see her at some point. Maybe he’s the reason that she and Jack are separated. Sawyer has seen Kate, albeit briefly when he arrested her.

  13. Lycanthropist Says:

    yeh at some point during Kate’s booking, you would think that Sawyer and her will experience some similar bleed over.

  14. Type III Jamming Personality Disorder Says:


    I think so. Fereday, Charlie & Charlotte were all dead in the primary timeline.

    Desmond is a bad ass. Now that he has bought into the whole thing instead of fighting it, he sure looks like he’s going to be the agent of change here. No fear, just clarity of purpose.

  15. Lycanthropist Says:

    the only thing I didnt quite get was his reaction to Sayid.

  16. [Not Tom] Marshall Says:

    @ TIII – remind me … Faraday died by his early mother’s shooting?

    It’s getting very hard for me to find a “constant.” I think this may be intentional, by the produces, to make us feel as disoriented as you’d feel if you were Desmond.

  17. wilson8or Says:

    @lyc: I don’t either. And is his consciousness in reality 2 or 1 at this point?

  18. [Not Tom] Marshall Says:

    ^ Desmond has seen a reality where he didn’t know Penny. He knew and loved her in the one in which he had previously been trapped on the island. I think he’s choosing door number 2.

  19. [Not Tom] Marshall Says:

    Door number 2 being the one where he knows and loves Penny.

  20. Type III Jamming Personality Disorder Says:


    you are correct, sir.

  21. TJC12TJC Says:


  22. [Not Tom] Marshall Says:

    Hmmm…. maybe that song does reveal something.


    So, this will all in up just Hurley’s mind?

  23. Type III Jamming Personality Disorder Says:

    that would work if those were the correct lyrics.

    It is You ALL Everybody, unfortunately…

  24. bhizzle Says:

    It is You ALL Everybody, unfortunately…


  25. ohhphee Says:

    hey, T3PO. Was that clarified somewhere on lostpedia, or did you go back and listen again? I couldn’t tell for sure.

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