Fall Forecast: Vegas Baby?

Las Vegas 2010?

While Phish has yet to play a single note of summer tour, rumors are already circulating about what they may do come fall. And right now, the whispers are all talking about a three-night return to Las Vegas during the second week of October. If this happens, Phish would return to face the city that has come to symbolize the beginning of their demise in 2004. But at the same time end, Phish in Vegas is a tradition like none other. There’s nothing quite like spilling out of Thomas and Mack, wide-eyed onto the strip, as the night has just begun. An annual rite from ’96 moving forward, Sin City hosted many memorable Phish shows, and if the whispers are correct, three more are coming down the road.

Vegas 2000 Poster

While a stop in Vegas may seem surprising given the sober, family-oriented vibe of the band these days, returning to Vegas may be a way for Phish to right the wrongs of ’04, and they know there is no better locale for their fans. Regardless of reasoning, it seems that Phish may once again visit the neon desert oasis before too long. Apparently, these dates would be in conjunction with an appearance at Austin City Limits Festival, this year taking place between October 8-10. So if one were to hazard a guess, Phish would hit Vegas the following weekend of October between the 14th and 17th. Going purely on speculation here, perhaps the band would then head west for a run up the coast after these rumored dates in the desert. One can only hope.

And in other overheard mumblings…It sounds like the Holiday Run will shift back up north to Madison Square Garden this year, after two consecutive appearances in Miami. And maybe – just maybe – Indio may present itself as an option for Halloween again, after the original dates conflicted with Austin’s festival. Obviously we are be getting way ahead of ourselves here, but sometimes, as Phish fans, that’s what we do. And with less than a month left before Chicago’s summer kick off, what better way to kill some time.

What do you think?


Jam of the Day:

Sand” 12.13.99 II

This Providence rendition is one of the most adventurous “Sands” during the song’s peak era of December ’99. This remaster comes courtesy of Paul Shapera.




10.21.94 Sunrise Musical Theatre, Sunrise, FL < Torrent

10.21.94 Sunrise Musical Theatre, Sunrise, FL < Megaupload

A Sunrise In Florida (M.Lilly)

This nugget from Fall ’94 with a non-stop second set goes out via reader request to Gavin’s Dad.

I: Fee, Down with Disease, Foam, The Mango Song, The Old Home Place, Stash, The Lizards, Dog Faced Boy, Run Like an Antelope

II: Also Sprach Zarathustra > Mike’s Song > Simple > Mike’s Song > I Am Hydrogen > Weekapaug Groove, Sleeping Monkey, The Curtain > Fast Enough for You, Scent of a Mule. Slave to the Traffic Light

E:  Sweet Adeline, Foreplay/Long Time, Cavern

Source: Unknown

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672 Responses to “Fall Forecast: Vegas Baby?”

  1. voidboy Says:

    @Mr. Palmer,

    Yeah, interesting read. I give hm credit for keeping it together as well as he did and surviving the experience. Quite a sacrifice for a bad misstep but he survived.

  2. Type III Jamming Personality Disorder Says:

    Yeah, I’ve been to the place where he got stuck (before then). Didn’t know he was a phan

  3. Phamily Berzerker Says:

    Wonder what the playlist was for the self amputation?

    Chalkdust torture, Tweezer>Amputaion Jam*>Army of One

    *One of These Days tease

  4. voidboy Says:


    Wow, hard not to wait for those jams to end…

  5. SillyWilly Says:

    I just remembered that I was a junior in high school in Salt Lake City when that Aron Ralston thing happened.

    f’in crazy.

    I remember everyone making arm jokes about that for months later.

  6. voidboy Says:

    “I remember everyone making arm jokes about that for months later.”

    Hard to avoid given the circumstances. A little humiliation goes a long way but pales when compared to surviving the exp.

  7. Selector J Says:

    “Cracks me up when older DJ’s say “tapes”…who the fuck uses tapes anymore?
    Cheap-ass radio stations, I guess…”

    It’s funny that you mention that.This story ran in the local paper yesterday. One of the guys featured is a DJ at the same radio station that my show is on. His show is done using strictly cassette tapes (we are pretty cheap ass… but not that cheap ass). Yes, cassette tapes… poor quality mixed with terrible format, at-least-we’re-not-8-tracks cassette tapes.

    Apparently it’s part of a whole ridiculous hipster movement that’s trying to bring back cassette tapes. (Even Thurston Moore was quoted as listening exclusively to cassette tapes.) If anyone knows tapes are not worth it, it’s Phish heads. If they were that fantastic, I think we’d be the ones at the forefront of the renaissance.

    I’m not saying I don’t get nostalgic about the XLII’s but I am saying that they’re obsolete on every level. Digital is cheaper to distribute. Nearly everything is better sound quality (crappy analog is still crappy) and they’re terribly cumbersome to navigate.

    Doesn’t make sense but that’s not the point I guess. It’s irony mixed with attention grabbing and that’s what they’re going for, I suppose. And hipsters make fun of hippies… pft.

  8. Jon Says:

    Haven’t read the whole string of posts, so sorry if this is a repeat. But, there better be at least two nights in Denver associated with this fall western swing. They have been completely neglecting the huge Colorado market so far.

  9. voopa Says:

    Wow Selector, that IS pretty ridiculous.

  10. Mr.Palmer Says:

    Jon- How far is Telluride from Colorado? 🙂

  11. SillyWilly Says:


    totally a breathtaking story of human resiliency.

  12. sneven Says:

    Okay BB, I’m bringing up a huge debate discovered at the little dive where I had dinner tonight.

    The debate was over the best spinoff sitcom. A side note was added to the best sitcom cross-over.

    The spinoff winners were: Cheers – Frasier and Happy Days – Joanie Loves Chachie…

    The crossever winners were: Happy Days – Laverne & Shirley and Mad About You – Friends…

    My brain is about to melt into my lap, I can’t think about TV any longer.

    Sorry to frustrate everyone to my level. We disqualified the Simpsons>Tracy Ullman and Mama’s Family>the Carol Burnett Show.

    My head hurts, I feel sick…

    Your thoughts?

  13. Selector J Says:

    llfa, @ Mr. P and where is Red Rocks in relation to Colorado? 😉

    @jon I know what you mean, though. Those were/are incredibly tough tickets and it definitely wouldn’t hurt Phish to play some bigger venues in CO.

    Where’s William Breathes at?
    @ voopa It’s insanity. The kid that does the radio show is 22 so he was born in ’88. He probably never even owned a tape until he went to college. I had an 8-track fascination in high school for a month or so. However, that ended soon after I finally tracked down an 8-track player and realized that playing 8-tracks sucks.

  14. Jon Says:

    Mr. Palmer – and those shows sold out in a matter of a few minutes. What I’m saying is, they’re more than satisfying demand for tickets in other parts of the country. Seems to me that if they wanted to satisfy demand for tickets in Colorado, Telluride would either be preceded or followed by a two-or three night stand at a larger venue. But I know that satisfying demand is not their goal. However, I would think that failure to satisfy demand will result in eventual loss of interest by more casual fans and lessening of demand.
    Reminds me of when I was walking out of Red Rocks night 1 (the one and only show I could afford to see). I asked a random girl next to me what she thought of the “Bowie”. Her response was, “a little long.” I would bet money that about half the fans at any of those shows would have had a similar response. They’re going to a Phish show only because it’s the thing to do, not for love of the music.

  15. sneven Says:

    On a further note, any show involving Bob Newhart is also DQ’d…

  16. halcyon Says:

    Jumping back on and commenting on New Pornographers…Their latest is really disappointing to me. I had high hopes, and they were quickly dashed. Twin Cinema -> Mass Romantic -> Electric Version was a pretty good run of albums. Challengers was good too.

    Broken Bells is mellow, but have spun it a few times. Frightened Rabbit has some of those poppy anthemic rock tunes under its belt, and when I am in the mood for that style, it is a good listen.

  17. voidboy Says:


    “Happy Days – Joanie Loves Chachie…” No, I would vote for Happy Days>Mork & Mindy by far… (spawned Robin Williams). Of course I was like 8 at the time.

    That’s my vote.

  18. halcyon Says:

    All in The Family – The Jeffersons, and Maude

  19. Mr. Completely Says:

    just to note, re: Kid Rock convo several pages back – the guy’s a douche and helped get Red in trouble, sure, but backstage at Vegas the guy was playing Dark Star on an acoustic guitar and pretty much killing it.

    Bet you didn’t see that coming!

    True, though.

  20. Mr. Completely Says:

    there’s a huge hipster cassette thing going on here in PDX of course. It’s so idiotic a number of people have actually designated it as the moment hipsterdom jumped the shark.

  21. Mr.Palmer Says:

    So you think you can dance > Dancing with the Stars…

  22. sneven Says:

    “Happy Days – Joanie Loves Chachie…” No, I would vote for Happy Days>Mork & Mindy by far… (spawned Robin Williams). Of course I was like 8 at the time.

    That’s my vote.

    @ voidboy That was part of the debate… is Mork & Mindy officially a ‘spinoff?’

    All in The Family – The Jeffersons, and Maude

    @hal – one of my arguements that lost at the bar…

  23. flarrdogg Says:

    That Bowie…meh. “A little long.”

    Did you use an open or closed hand when you struck?

    Jon, pretty much everywhere west of the Mississippi feels your pain. I know I do.

    Kid Rock strumming Dark Star backstage? Must have been surreal. Saw him cruising around the lot in a golf cart before the show.

    Just so I’m clear on this whole flac/mp3 thing- True or False: It is pointless to download flacs if you’re going to turn around and put them into itunes because that process just reconverts them to mp3.

    Help me out.

  24. sneven Says:

    @Palmer – Star Search > American Idol?

    We were strictly talking sitcoms… no offense 😉

  25. Mitch Says:

    i made it home again!!

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