L O S T: “The End” Discussion Thread

The Final Season

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  1. TheSloth Says:

    What a great way to end the show with everyone (almost) who started it.

  2. El Duderino Says:

    I think Juliette is a stone cold fox!

    Mark it 8 Dude

  3. halcyon Says:

    The reunions or Sawyer / Juliette and Claire / Charlie were emotional. While the whole issue of them being dead was a thought throughout the series, I liked how they gave you enough to think about it, but not enough to reveal it until the end.

  4. Lycanthropist Says:

    what i loved about it is that while yes the “they are all dead” thing proved to be true, it wasnt in the island universe.

    everything that happened in the island universe was real and necessary, but they gave themselves the ALT universe to see what their lives would have been like in without the island and to be reassured that they would make proper choices with what they have learned in their life.

    This realization was able to make them let go and move on to the next world.

    I think a lot of people are going to tie this directly to Christianity, but for me it transcends any religion.

    The main trump card here is love.

  5. jay Says:

    Amazing acting by all during the ‘awakening’ scenes. Did Locke really need to get run over by Desmond to be on the path to being awakened? Was it just to get him to the hospital and get treated by Jack? Pretty extreme don’t you think? What was Jack, A spinal surgeon, doing treating a car accident victim? Small questions I know but curious.

  6. jay Says:

    Why was Michael and his son Walt dissed? Were they there at the end and I just missed it?

  7. Lycanthropist Says:

    @jay

    i think the key here is that Desmond was aware that they were all already dead.

    running over locke didn’t matter.
    none of that existence mattered except for them to reconnect with each other and their true inner selves.

    the entire ALT world was the transition from life to afterlife

    not purgatory

    I think the LOSTies created a reward for themselves for all the pain and hardships they had to endure for the protection of everyone else on the planet

    the significance of the island being underwater in their ALT universe had to do with them wanting to have a chance to live their lives out without the island influence.

  8. El Duderino Says:

    @ Lycan

    I see what your saying…

    It’s like the 6th sense.
    Desmond had to show them the way maybe…
    ????

  9. Mr. Completely Says:

    “It seems like the sideways reality was less a purgatory — if that means a waiting room before moving on to heaven or hell — than an alternative space for the characters to continue their work towards their “awakening” moments. ”

    what’s the difference between that and purgatory? it has more of a positive spin than most ideas of purgatory, just a place to get free of the last of your karma and want for the other souls in their karass (Vonnegut term).

    I’m ok with it being purgatory, without arguing semantics. Functionally any distinction seems a little academic.

    “Interesting that in the survivors “alt-universe” the island was underwater. Why would that be? Clearly smokey wasn’t around.”

    That’s the only ‘hmmmmmm’ type red herring I’ve thought of. That doesn’t make obvious sense, but I’m sure there’s an explanation.

  10. halcyon Says:

    Desmond had Anti Locke Breaks 🙂

    http://topcultured.com/desmonds-lost-car-has-special-features/

  11. Mr. Completely Says:

    “I think a lot of people are going to tie this directly to Christianity, but for me it transcends any religion.”

    Considering Christian Shephard was standing in front of a Unitarian-style ecumenical stained glass with symbols of different religions on it, I think it’s pretty obviously supposed to transcend.

    “Why was Michael and his son Walt dissed? Were they there at the end and I just missed it?”

    No, they weren’t there and that’s a bummer.

  12. Mr. Palmer Says:

    couple of questions to the experts:

    1. Are we to believe that Hurley is dead and no longer protecting the Island?

    2. Is Michael still on the Island? I seem to remember him making a cameo recently.

  13. El Duderino Says:

    @ Palmer

    Since they were all at the Church and Ben too. I would assume that Yes they are all dead. But that’s me

  14. Lycanthropist Says:

    Christian Shepard says to Jack that some of these people died before him and some after him

    I took that to mean that Hurley want on to protect the island for however long he could.

    I’d even go as far to say that eventually Ben took over the island, because he didn’t go with the rest to the afterlife.

    AS far as Michael and Walt are concerned

    Michael is trapped on the island as a ghost. Always will be.
    Walt on the other hand was totally disregarded and pushed aside by the writers and is really the only plot point that I take issue with.

    @Mr. C

    While it is apparent to viewers like us who are capable and attentive, my guess is most viewers won’t be able to say past their own Christian rhetoric.

  15. El Duderino Says:

    I’m a huge dog lover. and I thought the most touching scene last night was when the golden lab laid down next to Jack as he died. To me that was way more touching than the love story couple stuff IMO.

  16. bright light Says:

    i think ben didn’t go to the afterlife not b/c he took over the island, but b/c he still had to work thru his personal issues before he was fully redeemed and ready for what was next. locke’s forgiveness was a big step in the right direction, but he needs to go there on his own time.

  17. jay Says:

    I like Lync’s take on why the island was under water. Good way to look at it. Also, as to them already being dead so running over locke is no big deal? I think the alt universe was created by the 815 survivors to help them remember and connect with each other. This universe was very real to them. They still felt pain as well as joy. Otherwise the “awakening’ would not have been as powerful. Would not have been ‘real’. Regardless of whether you are already dead, getting run over by a speeding car hurts like a Motherf&@%#r.

  18. Lycanthropist Says:

    @bright light

    you are probably right.

  19. bright light Says:

    @ el dude

    absolutely. how amazing that vincent made sure jack didn’t die alone.

  20. Lycanthropist Says:

    @jay

    no doubt that the pain and joy was real in their ALT universe

    but Desmond was on a mission of awakening everyone, regardless of the pain.

    No doubt that locke felt every bit of that, but I also feel like Des knew he couldn’t kill him

  21. Type III Jamming Personality Disorder Says:

    agree that Ben wasn’t “ready”.

    think about the conversation Des had with Eloise. She is one who was seemingly aware of things in both timelines but didn’t want to leave since this was the place where she had what she wanted – the love from her son – who was only then becoming aware through his “first” meeting with Charlotte.

  22. Dr. Pronoia Says:

    @ Mr C – I don’t think the difference between “purgatory” or not is semantic quibbling. It makes a huge difference. Purgatory happens between death and the afterlife, and neither the island nor the sideways reality fits that bill, at least in how I experienced the ending.

    It was a unique space within which to work out their karma and get awakened to a more relativistic, interdependent consciousness (to get all Buddhist for a second), but I am just responding to some really simplistic reviews I’ve read online and in newspapers this morning that are collapsing the whole show into a “they were dead and in purgatory” narrative.

    Thankfully we’re all way more sophisticated than that here!

  23. Hojo Says:

    “I think Juliette is a stone cold fox!” – agreed!

    And what about Charlotte? She seemed overwhelmingly smokin hot… this season in particular!

  24. jay Says:

    purgatory is a cleansing that involves pain (usually fire) so that any remaining (non-mortal) sins will be burnt away, and the soul thus purified can enter heaven. This is mostly a Catholic belief. This is nothing like how I saw the alt universe created by the survivors and island inhabitants.

  25. jay Says:

    you can get your Juliette fix on “V”.

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