Minerese: Vol. II

12.31.09 (W.Rogell)

Yesterday’s post turned out to be so much fun, I figured we’d segue right into “Minerese, Volume II.” Yesterday we tackled some basic terminology, though I’ve been known to use more colorful language to paint the picture of a Phish jam. Today, I plucked out some of more vibrant terms I’ve dropped from time to time, and dug up some audio excerpts to define them.


“Colorful Molasses”

When the music gets so thick you feel like you are swimming through a larger-than-life ocean of groove, you’ve entered the realm of colorful molasses. These tar-thick rhythmic textures create a liquid reality where the gooey grooves engulf your existence. In this case I’ve juxtaposed a classic dose with a portion from ’09.

[audio:http://phishthoughts.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/molasses2.mp3] [audio:http://phishthoughts.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/molasses1.mp3]


“Drone Landscapes”

11.21.09 (W.Rogell)

Often times, Phish enters a phase of the jam characterized by its total lack of melody. Often in conjunction with more eerie experiments, these segments are comprised of heavily effected, and often repetitive, musical phrases. These landscapes resemble alien sonic brews that Phish creates in migrating between musical planes.

[audio:http://phishthoughts.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/drone1.mp3] [audio:http://phishthoughts.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/drone2.mp3]


“Crack-like Grooves”

These grooves feel so good, you just gotta’ have more! These fiercely-addictive dance patterns are the musical equivalent of choice hubba rocks. Time and space stand still when high on Phish crack.

[audio:http://phishthoughts.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/crack1.mp3] [audio:http://phishthoughts.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/crack2.mp3]


“Bass-led Jihad”

Michael Gordom (T.Stack)

Michael Gordon (T.Stack)

This eclectic term is reserved for those segments of absolute Mike-driven annihilation. In these crusades, Gordon’s bass lines anchor the rhythm while, simultaneously, carrying the lead melody. Trey and Page settle into the background while Mike steps front and center as the dynamic leader of the band. Taking no prisoners, Mike’s offerings shower the audience with relentless attacks of bass warfare.

[audio:http://phishthoughts.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/jihad1.mp3] [audio:http://phishthoughts.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/jihad2.mp3]

(For those trying to identify these excerpts, the task should be much easier today with more well-known selections.)


Jam of the Day:

Mike’s Song > Sparks > Curtis Loew” 8.2.93 II

A classic sequence from Tampa, Florida, kicking off August ’93.




6.11.00 Hibiya Outdoor Theatre, Tokyo, Japan < Torrent

6.11.00 Hibiya Outdoor Theatre, Tokyo, Japan < Megaupload

Hibiya Park, 6.11.00 (J.Greene)

This afternoon show took place a half-day after Phish ended their show the night before at Zepp. Taking place within Hibiya Park in central Tokyo, this show facilitated connections between Japanese and American fans in a way that small nightclubs couldn’t. Check out my take on the show, written only hours after it concluded.

I: First Tube, Punch You In the Eye, Horn, Ginseng Sullivan, Stash, Dirt, Possum, It’s Ice, Farmhouse

II: Birds of a Feather, Free, Beauty of My Dreams, Bug, David Bowie, When the Circus Comes, Back on the Train, Harry Hood

E: Character Zero

Source: Unknown


788 Responses to “Minerese: Vol. II”

  1. garretc Says:

    @Mr. C

    Right on, that all makes quite a bit of sense, thanks! I know you’re not an audio engineer or anything, so forgive me if this is a question you have no answer to, but presumably there would be a way to remove phasing, if one wanted to? (In the pre-matrixing stage, that is)

  2. Phamily Berzerker Says:


    Was not me.

    RE tonight’s game

    Though I would like to remind everyone that it was after a two game home win streak, at the next away game when Goran Dragic showed real flow.

    I will most likely watch the game at the neighbors’ to avoid polluting my house with all the nasty epithets you can hurl at the opposign team, as if it mattered.

    I used to split season tkts and the seats were 11 off the floor straight up from the baseline opposite the opposing bench, right in the lower bowl where I could get good acoustics with my taunts, cheers and shouting.
    Every home game that the suns score 99 or more is free tacos from jack in the box. You should here me amp up the crowd for free tacos.

    Yeah Free Tacos! Come on Free Tacos!!

    I’m hungry now.

    The saying goes that it may not be a series until one team wins at the other team’s home.

  3. Mr. Completely Says:

    “The saying goes that it may not be a series until one team wins at the other team’s home.”

    this is truth. Higher seed comes in with advantage, which they earn in regular season. In no other sport does home court matter so much. Los Suns will have to take this one – nothing will be given.

  4. Robear Says:

    like i said, stoney case.

    to whoever posted re: Waterwheel. my response is back a page.

  5. Mr. Completely Says:

    @garretc it is not usually possible really because what is really happening is more complex than I made it sound – each mike in the stereo pair is getting sound from each speaker stack plus usually some onstage amp sound. So the left mike is getting sound from channel L at time T, from the stage at T+1, and from the right channel at T+3, say. For the right mic, things are reversed. So there’s no simple way to synchonize them; in fact as I understand it there’s no way at all.

    Also, a very small (natural) amount of ‘phasing is’, practically speaking, just normal stereo imaging and therefore desirable….

    caveat: all these explantions are secondhand – given to me by people who definitely know what they’re talking about, but I don’t, and I was usually high during the explanation, so: grain of salt, etc

  6. Robear Says:

    c, great pt. re: lack of true free market. if what you described were true, we wouldn’t need so much regulation, either. wish i lived closer to a college campus, so i could start sitting in on econ 101 classes.

  7. Jtran Says:

    Listening to Galactic to fill my Phish hiataus void. They’re good, I dig the funk

  8. garretc Says:

    @Mr. C

    Ahh, I see. Once again, lots of sense made. Thanks for satisfying my curiosity!

  9. Mr. Completely Says:

    a bunch of the SBDs for Dead shows I attended and love (mostly 87s) are actually 4 track PCM masters – 2 SBD+2 AUD – basically on the fly matrixes – but they are nearly unlistenable due to phasing issues and synch probs. In theory the SBD tracks could be read separately…hope that happens at some point… 7-8-87 and the Hampton run from March being the top candidates

  10. Mr. Completely Says:

    (top candidates in my opinion)

  11. Kenny Powers Says:

    Mr. C

    “The best matrixes IMO combine a “too-clean” SBD (such as some of the early 70s reels or especially the early-80s cassette masters) with overly separated instruments and no warmth, with a raunchy, in-your-face FOB that by itself would lack the ideal clarity and separation.”


  12. Phamily Berzerker Says:

    No shit, C, this is the playoffs.

    The only place my superstitions still get the best of me.

    That and that whole being afraid of the dark bit

  13. ma Says:


    anybody know how old miner is? just wonderin’.
    thanks, and if you forgot, tomorrow is a fry-day.

  14. Kenny Powers Says:


    i also love the Hunter’s Trix series. I’m also playing major catch-up w/ my Dead listening and will not be as alert/informed of comparisons between a given matrix and its other available sources, but most of Hunter’s Trix sound great to these ears.

    I think I just love the way a Dead matrix sounds in general. You don’t get the awkwardness of an SBD where Bobby’s vocals are too loud or instruments are at drastically different volumes, with little atmospheric ambiance…but most of the Dead AUDs (at least pre-90s) are too boomy/echo-y/not dynamic enough for me.

    But thanks to Mr. C and El Dude I’ve been trained to automatically DL any new Charlie Miller transfers. I basically DL those and any matrices (Paul Chappell and ___ Hansokolow do good matrix work too)

  15. Kenny Powers Says:

    sorry, to clarify Charlie Miller works w/ straight SBD (and AUDs to a lesser extent). so i try to get as many Miller SBDs as possible + any matrices I can find.

  16. purplehumpbackwhale Says:

    i can now play fly famous mockingbird on guitar! at about 80% of the speed that trey does but its coming along! hah. shits so hard.

  17. Bad Nirvana Cover Band Says:

    My dream ‘Ten Tunes For Friday’ list

    Brian and Robert
    Mountains in the Mist
    Velvet Sea
    Jennifer Dances
    Anything But Me
    Frankie Says

  18. gratefulcub Says:

    “is there a finer 2.0 jam out there than 2-28-03 gin?”

    2-20-03 Chicago Waves>Simple>Jiboo Set II: Tweezer

    You may have heard this before from someone that resembles me 😉

  19. gratefulcub Says:

    Blackboard Truism:

    If scrolling through the days’ posts looking for ‘Driveby Meatstick’ negativity makes you dizzy, and you can’t even find the Meatstick, you have had too much to drink. Viva la Cakebread Cellars Chardonnay!!

    What did the Meatstick say? I love driveby negativity, it makes me giggle.

    Let’s Go Los Suns!!!

  20. gratefulcub Says:

    It’s so lonely in here I can hear my own echo

  21. William H. Bonney Says:


  22. BTB Says:

    Listen tooooooo the silent board…

    T-ride People – Just booked my T-ride flight. I’m hunting for people to split a rental car. I’ll be in Denver on Saturday August 7, Returning to Denver August 11th. 7pm flight.

  23. Stupendous a.k.a The Beasel Says:



    Did the dead ever play blues for Allah live? in its entirety?

    I have a feeling the answer is yes but not sure if it was in its entirety…

  24. pagesidehighschool Says:



  25. gratefulcub Says:

    Damn we have some cute babies pageside!! 😉

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