A Curve To the Place Where I Stay

12.28.09 (Shawn Williams)

While Phish has dipped into their post-hiatus material this go-round, for some reason they haven’t gone for some of the era’s most significant pieces. While keeping ‘”Seven Below,” 46 Days” in rotation, the band has also touched on “Undermind” from time to time. In this era of their career Phish has, not surprisingly, favored their classic vehicles to pieces from their second era whose quality is constantly debated in the community. While they continue to inexplicably ignore two of their most profound jam vehicles in “Scents and Subtle Sounds” and “A Song I Heard the Ocean Sing,” there is another post-hiatus song, yet to make its debut this era, that would fit the band’s current style congruently – “Round Room.”

Round Room (2002)

“Really?” you might ask. Yes; really. In its four appearances in 2003, “Round Room” produced four pieces of layered, abstract, and melodic jamming – a style that came into play this past summer. The post-hiatus versions, all played before the their decline,  lent themselves to intricate, interwoven fairy tales. And with the whole band communicating in such fine style these days, and Fishman tearing apart rhythms behind ambient collaborations, “Round Room” could be a source of deeply engaging improvisation.

But alas, will Trey allow Mike’s song to thrive? It seemed like Red’s reputation for keeping his band mates’ songs at bay was loosening during Leg I when Phish debuted Page’s “Halfway to the Moon” and Gordon’s “Idea,” but both songs were never heard from again, and in retrospect, almost seemed like a formality.  If the band does decide to dig into their post hiatus vault, one would only hope Trey sees the shining pool of possibilities that lie in his bass player’s title track to Round Room.

6.17.10 (J.Reiss)

With the band pulling out songs from throughout their career, why not take a look at this one? With the potential to morph into sessions of selfless jamming, “Round Room” seems congruent with the band’s current direction and could develop into a psychedelic trampoline. Phish is doing just fine – don’t get me wrong – but if they are looking to expand their group of live offerings, consider this a suggestion. A piece that could shoot innocent concert-goers into outer space with little warning, the island-turned-galactic anthem would make a stellar addition to the current catalog.

Here are a couple versions from 2003. See what you think.

2.28.03 Nassau


2.16.03 Vegas



Jam of the Day:

Disease > Lizards” 12.12.95 II

Some ferocious December ’95 psychedelia from Providence Civic Center – another Fall 2010 venue.




12.4.1995 Mullins Center, Amherst, MA < Torrent

12.4.1995 Mullins Center, Amherst, MA < Megaupload

Mullins Center - UMASS

The first night of Phish’s two-night stand at Amherst ’95. After the following night, Phish hasn’t returned to the on-campus arena – until now! This fall Phish is heading back to the venue that has already hosted four mid-90s spectacles, and is primed to make Mullins Center a central stop in their 2010’s New England path.

I: Julius, Gumbo, The Divided Sky, Punch You In the Eye, Stash, My Mind’s Got a Mind of its Own, Axilla (Part II), The Horse > Silent in the Morning, Hello My Baby, While My Guitar Gently Weeps

II: Timber Ho!, Sparkle, Ya Mar, Run Like an Antelope, Billy Breathes, Cars Trucks Buses, You Enjoy Myself, Sample in a Jar, Frankenstein

E: Bouncing Around the Room, Rocky Top

Source: AKG 460B/ck61 > custom pre-amp > Teac DA-P20 (@ 48kHz)

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705 Responses to “A Curve To the Place Where I Stay”

  1. willowed Says:

    The 2003 Gorge Round Room has some nice effects or affects…I always screw up those two.
    Page starts doing this cool helicopter noise with the keys…I think it’s pahe anyway.

    Thanks Miner…Know you have me listening to all of these Round Rooms all morning. No work getting done here

  2. bhizzle Says:

    JotD is my kind of Phish! Thanks

  3. Themanatee Says:

    Round room , hood from Nassau great combo. There is no doubt this song deserves love it is gorgeous. And the ignoring of scents and oceans is criminal. I don’t think Trey is consciously “ignoring” tunes cause they are mike or page tunes , or even necessarily unconsciously , but it’s an interesting idea. Phish psychology

  4. Jtran Says:

    Fukuoka is great work music

  5. El Duderino Says:

    Yes Folks new OJ show source FOB B&K’s…


  6. lastwaltzer Says:

    @SW or Dude

    Have you listened to the new source? Verdict?


    is that nassau one the one that clocks in around 20 min? If so that was a sweet jam.

  7. El Duderino Says:

    For those doing the beach house in Charleston, SC…

    Things should be wrapping up here real shortly. Expect an e-mail from Leo W. rather soon. We have to get a firm headcount…

    That is all…

  8. Nizzle Says:



    speaking of effects, that kill devil falls is still my jam today.

  9. El Duderino Says:

    @ LW

    I’ve just seen it a few minutes ago.
    If you know anything about the sources that circulate which are all not that great this I’m hoping will be a welcomed up-grade

  10. InAMinute Says:

    @b-rock, I completely agree with your call on Sugar Shack, was going to say the same thing.

  11. Jtran Says:

    and Mike’s 12/1 and Real Gin are my jams right now

  12. Jtran Says:


  13. lastwaltzer Says:


    word, if you happen to check it let me know, was talking about that gig the other day. Not only is the OJ shit too funny, but the Harpua and Mikes are killer, great second set.

  14. halcyon Says:

    Morning Folks.

    Idea is coming out on Gordon’s new album. Could Halfway to the Moon be appearing on Page’s new album?

    Round Room is interesting, prior to the site, I didn’t give the songs off of Round Room the chance they deserved. It’s refreshing to listen to these songs. Hopefully some of these will break out in the fall.

  15. BingosBrother Says:

    I hope they are working on Halfway to the Moon as we speak. I have yet to hear one fan say that they don’t love that song and the places they could take that indoors would be epic.

    *Maggies Revenge is the only song off of Undermind yet to be played live. I hope that is corrected soon, preferably when I am there.

    Not a huge fan of Round Room(the song), would much rather hear mike on some Mock Song.

  16. DukeOfLizards Says:

    Semi-repost from last night:

    External hard drive crapped out in the midst of a large iPod update last night. I’m getting a repetetive spinning/clicking noise, which based on a brief scan of Tha Intrawebz, is not a good thing. Let’s ignore the fact that I’m a complete ass hat for not having a backup-backup – what are my chances of recovering the lost data (~70 GB of music?). At what cost?

  17. b-rock Says:

    Yo Jtran, how’d that Cypress Ghost work for you last night? I thought it was interesting since it’s so non-’99-groove-like, particularly coming in such a groove-based song.

    and re: Fukuoka, I’d say in general the Japan run is great work music.

  18. El Duderino Says:

    @ Duke

    HD recovery is EXPENSIVE as all get out!

    Take your loses and lick your wounds unfortunately

  19. Robear Says:

    duder, my plight has turned to torment re: torrents.

    I’m 1 MB, yes, that’s 1 mega byte away from finishing this torrent:


    off to sub, deep on the res. good kids.

  20. Mr. Murph Says:

    End of Session should be the last song they ever play live if planned out. I wish they would never end.

    Junior year of college is turning out to be a >horse. these phunk tastic yem’s i got yesterday are pulling me through. Less than 1 month till Charleston, so f’n excited.

  21. El Duderino Says:

    @ robear

    Are you getting a 99% done????

    If so it’s ok, someone probably changed the text file or some shit like that.

  22. DukeOfLizards Says:


    Yeah, that’s the gist I got from poking around online, just thought I’d see if there were any nifty tricks of the trade that the audiophile Jedi Knights of the BB could provide.

    Oh well. These things happen. Looks like I have a project for the fall.

  23. halcyon Says:

    What is the proper protocol to request a show from someone on etree? Do you email the tapers with a request? Is there a forum I am not finding for requests?

  24. halcyon Says:


    Mine stopped at 99% as well. It has everything except song #1 and when converting said that the .shn file was corrupt.

  25. El Duderino Says:

    @ Halcyon

    You need to become a member of week4paug.net

    All requests will only be honored there not on the comment section of torrents.

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