A Curve To the Place Where I Stay

12.28.09 (Shawn Williams)

While Phish has dipped into their post-hiatus material this go-round, for some reason they haven’t gone for some of the era’s most significant pieces. While keeping ‘”Seven Below,” 46 Days” in rotation, the band has also touched on “Undermind” from time to time. In this era of their career Phish has, not surprisingly, favored their classic vehicles to pieces from their second era whose quality is constantly debated in the community. While they continue to inexplicably ignore two of their most profound jam vehicles in “Scents and Subtle Sounds” and “A Song I Heard the Ocean Sing,” there is another post-hiatus song, yet to make its debut this era, that would fit the band’s current style congruently – “Round Room.”

Round Room (2002)

“Really?” you might ask. Yes; really. In its four appearances in 2003, “Round Room” produced four pieces of layered, abstract, and melodic jamming – a style that came into play this past summer. The post-hiatus versions, all played before the their decline,  lent themselves to intricate, interwoven fairy tales. And with the whole band communicating in such fine style these days, and Fishman tearing apart rhythms behind ambient collaborations, “Round Room” could be a source of deeply engaging improvisation.

But alas, will Trey allow Mike’s song to thrive? It seemed like Red’s reputation for keeping his band mates’ songs at bay was loosening during Leg I when Phish debuted Page’s “Halfway to the Moon” and Gordon’s “Idea,” but both songs were never heard from again, and in retrospect, almost seemed like a formality.  If the band does decide to dig into their post hiatus vault, one would only hope Trey sees the shining pool of possibilities that lie in his bass player’s title track to Round Room.

6.17.10 (J.Reiss)

With the band pulling out songs from throughout their career, why not take a look at this one? With the potential to morph into sessions of selfless jamming, “Round Room” seems congruent with the band’s current direction and could develop into a psychedelic trampoline. Phish is doing just fine – don’t get me wrong – but if they are looking to expand their group of live offerings, consider this a suggestion. A piece that could shoot innocent concert-goers into outer space with little warning, the island-turned-galactic anthem would make a stellar addition to the current catalog.

Here are a couple versions from 2003. See what you think.

2.28.03 Nassau


2.16.03 Vegas



Jam of the Day:

Disease > Lizards” 12.12.95 II

Some ferocious December ’95 psychedelia from Providence Civic Center – another Fall 2010 venue.




12.4.1995 Mullins Center, Amherst, MA < Torrent

12.4.1995 Mullins Center, Amherst, MA < Megaupload

Mullins Center - UMASS

The first night of Phish’s two-night stand at Amherst ’95. After the following night, Phish hasn’t returned to the on-campus arena – until now! This fall Phish is heading back to the venue that has already hosted four mid-90s spectacles, and is primed to make Mullins Center a central stop in their 2010’s New England path.

I: Julius, Gumbo, The Divided Sky, Punch You In the Eye, Stash, My Mind’s Got a Mind of its Own, Axilla (Part II), The Horse > Silent in the Morning, Hello My Baby, While My Guitar Gently Weeps

II: Timber Ho!, Sparkle, Ya Mar, Run Like an Antelope, Billy Breathes, Cars Trucks Buses, You Enjoy Myself, Sample in a Jar, Frankenstein

E: Bouncing Around the Room, Rocky Top

Source: AKG 460B/ck61 > custom pre-amp > Teac DA-P20 (@ 48kHz)

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705 Responses to “A Curve To the Place Where I Stay”

  1. Mr. Completely Says:

    exactly dude

    used to be 16-18 a day and sometimes a bit more with enhancements

    now 10-12 and I’d be done

  2. El Duderino Says:

    It is a bummer.
    Especially since we all know that dope is for dopes.
    He released some remasters of 7/05 and 7/07/81 earlier this week, so he’s totally not out of it completely and I think from what he’s stated this week that maybe he’s almost over the hump again.

  3. lastwaltzer Says:

    Longest drive I’ve not was 28 hours between two people. We started the drive at 10 o’clock at night and were seriously loopy by 6.am.

  4. El Duderino Says:

    @ AW

    It’s both… to his own admission

  5. Mr.Palmer Says:

    7.24.99… Pretty nice , jammed out Chalk dust. Especially for one not played in Camden, New Jersey.

  6. albert walker Says:

    he’s no young kid either

    I kicked at 28 and it was rough on me

    wouldn’t wish that shit on any of us oldtimers

    wish him luck

  7. El Duderino Says:

    AW and I road with a friend of mine from my apartment in Glendale Hts., IL up to the Lemonwheel. The first stop was Banger, ME. I think it took us some 30 hours. I stayed up with my friend Mike the whole time. Hardest drive I’ve ever done

  8. albert walker Says:

    none of my business

    but is Kimock still up to no good these days?

    he works with him also right?

  9. Mr. Completely Says:

    I did about a dozen cross country drives but I never really had to ball it for actual schedule reasons. I just liked seeing how quickly I could make it happen without driving crazy. I did a lot of those 16-18s because I enjoyed them but never had to try for one of those really crazy pushes like you’re talking about

  10. lastwaltzer Says:

    “I think it took us some 30 hours. I stayed up with my friend Mike the whole time. Ha”dude

    shiiiiiiiiit. by hour 23 we were switching nearly ever half hour, couldn’t sleep for more then a 20 min. i

  11. albert walker Says:

    I would do Chicago to Denver me and the dog just stopping for gas all the time

    anything more than that 13-15 is just too much

    these days I don’t puff on road trips so I can barely get to the other side of town without freaking out

  12. El Duderino Says:

    C.Miller is Steve’s Audio engineer and archivist yes that’s correct

  13. kenny powers Says:

    Verno – I do have the fall and Euro ones…not sure I knew there was a summer one. Havent even listened to them yet, I have downloaded such a redic amount in the past year!

  14. El Duderino Says:

    @ LW

    Yeah it was weird. you’d be driving and tired as hell, feeling like you couldn’t do it anymore so you’d have to switch. But then when in the passenger seat you couldn’t sleep either. Strange. I think I slept at least halfway on the way back.

  15. Leo Weaver Says:

    El Dude’s solid as copilot.

    Mark it.

  16. El Duderino Says:

    @ Leo


    Yeah, it’s usually me and the driver while everyone else is dreaming of gumdrop mtns and soda rivers

  17. plord Says:

    So, pardon me if this is blindingly obvious to everyone and I’m just late to the party, but…

    I am sitting in the airport waiting on a delayed flight, with “Artist: Phish” on random shuffle, and for grins I have been choosing to listen to all of the lyrics and intentionally read any and all reference to water of any sort as a purposeful reference to the Bardo state, and non water settings is the “real” world. This is an old meme for me, based on a strong suspicion that Robert Hunter usually used Rain as a metaphor for souls taking on a physical manifestation.

    Split: “[we […] plunge below the water line/ down, down, down/
    between beams/ to the gloom room” (not so subtle “all is suffering” reference there…)
    Theme: “Or float on the ocean, asleep in a box”
    Wedge: “We’re bobbing on the surface while the shadow glides below” (Bonus, the “shadow” can be either the Qlippoth of the Qabalistic Tree of Life OR a reference that the physical body blocks the clear light of being creating the shadows of Maya OR a reference to Plato’s cave)
    Sand: I would choose my own religion / And worship my own spirit / But if he ever preached to me / I wouldn’t want to hear it / I’d drop him, a forgotten god, / Languishing in shame / And then if I hit stormy seas / I’d have myself to blame
    Waves and ASIHTOS work this way too.

    I’m sure there are more. It’s been an interesting hour.

  18. albert walker Says:

    Drove straight to Berkeley for those TAB shows

    Had a zip of Molly work work we were bumpin from

    That doesn’t count

  19. Leo Weaver Says:

    Any of you cats use Foobar? Know of any reason I can’t use the converter function? It shows up as being installed in my components.

  20. El Duderino Says:


    Trey likes the water.

  21. El Duderino Says:

    @ Leo

    Give it a try. Just make sure it doesn’t delete the original files…

    Justin Case

  22. El Duderino Says:

    There’s great aud FOB pulls from C. Miller of those ’01 TAB shows @ the Greek.

  23. Leo Weaver Says:

    I did…supposed to right click for the option, but it’s not in the list. and I can’t find it anywhere in any of the other menus. I’ve checked FAQ which doesn’t help as my scenario isn’t described.

  24. El Duderino Says:



  25. Mr. Completely Says:

    huh that’s real interesting @plord

    I certainly do notice all the references to water and the sea etc in the lyrics, I figured it was an emergent metaphor that they rolled with over time

    “soon I will be free, and you’ll be splashing in the sea”

    kind of figured it as relating to the show experience itself – being “in the water” with Phish, sorta

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