A Curve To the Place Where I Stay

12.28.09 (Shawn Williams)

While Phish has dipped into their post-hiatus material this go-round, for some reason they haven’t gone for some of the era’s most significant pieces. While keeping ‘”Seven Below,” 46 Days” in rotation, the band has also touched on “Undermind” from time to time. In this era of their career Phish has, not surprisingly, favored their classic vehicles to pieces from their second era whose quality is constantly debated in the community. While they continue to inexplicably ignore two of their most profound jam vehicles in “Scents and Subtle Sounds” and “A Song I Heard the Ocean Sing,” there is another post-hiatus song, yet to make its debut this era, that would fit the band’s current style congruently – “Round Room.”

Round Room (2002)

“Really?” you might ask. Yes; really. In its four appearances in 2003, “Round Room” produced four pieces of layered, abstract, and melodic jamming – a style that came into play this past summer. The post-hiatus versions, all played before the their decline,  lent themselves to intricate, interwoven fairy tales. And with the whole band communicating in such fine style these days, and Fishman tearing apart rhythms behind ambient collaborations, “Round Room” could be a source of deeply engaging improvisation.

But alas, will Trey allow Mike’s song to thrive? It seemed like Red’s reputation for keeping his band mates’ songs at bay was loosening during Leg I when Phish debuted Page’s “Halfway to the Moon” and Gordon’s “Idea,” but both songs were never heard from again, and in retrospect, almost seemed like a formality.  If the band does decide to dig into their post hiatus vault, one would only hope Trey sees the shining pool of possibilities that lie in his bass player’s title track to Round Room.

6.17.10 (J.Reiss)

With the band pulling out songs from throughout their career, why not take a look at this one? With the potential to morph into sessions of selfless jamming, “Round Room” seems congruent with the band’s current direction and could develop into a psychedelic trampoline. Phish is doing just fine – don’t get me wrong – but if they are looking to expand their group of live offerings, consider this a suggestion. A piece that could shoot innocent concert-goers into outer space with little warning, the island-turned-galactic anthem would make a stellar addition to the current catalog.

Here are a couple versions from 2003. See what you think.

2.28.03 Nassau


2.16.03 Vegas



Jam of the Day:

Disease > Lizards” 12.12.95 II

Some ferocious December ’95 psychedelia from Providence Civic Center – another Fall 2010 venue.




12.4.1995 Mullins Center, Amherst, MA < Torrent

12.4.1995 Mullins Center, Amherst, MA < Megaupload

Mullins Center - UMASS

The first night of Phish’s two-night stand at Amherst ’95. After the following night, Phish hasn’t returned to the on-campus arena – until now! This fall Phish is heading back to the venue that has already hosted four mid-90s spectacles, and is primed to make Mullins Center a central stop in their 2010’s New England path.

I: Julius, Gumbo, The Divided Sky, Punch You In the Eye, Stash, My Mind’s Got a Mind of its Own, Axilla (Part II), The Horse > Silent in the Morning, Hello My Baby, While My Guitar Gently Weeps

II: Timber Ho!, Sparkle, Ya Mar, Run Like an Antelope, Billy Breathes, Cars Trucks Buses, You Enjoy Myself, Sample in a Jar, Frankenstein

E: Bouncing Around the Room, Rocky Top

Source: AKG 460B/ck61 > custom pre-amp > Teac DA-P20 (@ 48kHz)

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705 Responses to “A Curve To the Place Where I Stay”

  1. El Duderino Says:

    Yeah, win a 60 minute bass lesson with Mike G. is pretty add on IMO.

    I would love a 60 minute guitar lesson from Trey.
    Be an all-time repeated dream of mine.

  2. Robear Says:

    gp, we missed you @ the greek. had the oasis II, this time at a house. I brought a couple acoustic guitars and a bass. sadly, only AW could play. I hacked along for awhile.

  3. Jtran Says:

    Could someone seed that first 12/7/99 link Robear threw up if possible?

  4. BlackEyedKaty Says:

    round room, right on.

  5. El Duderino Says:

    @ Robear

    We need a couple of “attending same shows” so we can get down to Phish sources business

  6. Robear Says:

    Jtran, I threw up the 7/2/98 Links. Those should be seeding.

    Duder has the 12/7/99 links. Seems like a nice community of lurkers that also do bt.etree. If we ask enough, it will pop up!

  7. Jtran Says:

    To be put on the work playlist tomorrow:

    6 17 94
    7 29 97
    7 6 98
    12 7 99

    First time listens on all but the 7/29 Ghost, 7/6 and 12/7 Halley’s.

    $$$ Friday

  8. Jtran Says:


    I actually realized I’ve already got 7/6/98

  9. Mr.Palmer Says:

    7/6/98. Trey tore that Ghost a new one! This video never gets old.


  10. El Duderino Says:

    Archive Release:


  11. El Duderino Says:

    It’s too bad that the HDTV tech. didn’t come out 10 years sooner…

    Some of those ’94-’99 videos are damn good.

  12. gavinsdad Says:

    this daily barrage of dates actually make me dizzy. i think i’ve realized that i can never keep up…and i have to just be who i was…guy dancing at shows. you can call me gavinsdad.mp3…i’m just never going to make it over the hump. it was the same way with the GD.

    i remain awed every day at the ravenous digestion of music that goes on in this place. i honestly thought that i listened to music quite alot for the past 30+ years until i found this board. you guys are certifiable.

    i am leaving for Ireland tomorrow nite with my lovely Irish wife. our longest trip away from our kids in 7.5 years. looking forward to storming some castles, tipping a few, and taking in the lovely verdure. see you all in a week and change.


  13. Mr.Palmer Says:

    Wow! Nice GD. Have a safe and fun trip.

  14. El Duderino Says:

    @ Gdad

    Safe travels my friend.
    Sounds fantastic.
    This will be epic!
    Don’t worry about the 3 musketeers I’m sure they’re with the g-parents and in good hands.

  15. Jtran Says:


    Enjoy! Gonna be a blast for sure.

  16. Gavinsdad Says:

    Was just hangin with my parents….sheesh.

  17. Gavinsdad Says:

    ^but yeah, they love the heck outta my kids. Good stuff

  18. Mr. Completely Says:

    “When converting from FLAC, for general listening on my mac or ipods in lossless, is WAV or AIFF the preferred file type?”

    ALAC (“apple lossless”) if you’re only playing them on itunes or ipod – they’re basically like FLAC, but playable.

    IF you want to burn CDs you need aiff or wav

    I’d do this:

    – convert FLAC to AIFF or WAV and burn CDs
    – convert those to ALAC for iPod/iTunes use
    – delete FLAC and AIFF/WAV

  19. Mr. Completely Says:

    peace, good fortune and health to you and yours on your travels @g-diddy

    and don’t go kissin’ that blarney stone

    you know what the locals do there

  20. Mr. Completely Says:

    and yeah I don’t even remotely keep up

    I average about 1 show a day, either GD or phish, occasionally both, then a bunch of other music

    about half the time I just hit whatever Miner has up, the other times some random thing from my own stash or the board recs

    oh hey random though based on listens:

    Walnut Creek ’97, famous second set of course

    total props to the epic slow transition, that thing is crazy

    then I was listening to the Mike-led segment at the start of the Mike’s jam and for the first time ever when listening to Phish from that era, I thought without considering it, “this part would be way better today.”

    And it would. His tone is immensely richer, and his ideas are so much more sophisticated and melodic.

    Anyway I’m not saying anything more than that, that’s a classic set from a classic era, but it was kind of cool to notice that.

  21. Mr.Palmer Says:

    Haha. i loved telling my in-laws that after they returned from Ireland. “We kissed the Blarney Stone”…..llfa….i bet you did

  22. hoedown Says:

    Go rip that place up GD. Hope to catch you in AC! Be safe.

  23. guitarpicker420! Says:

    Well, I’m not making AC, but Bob Dylan just announced Halloween in Indianapolis, so guess where I’ll be.

  24. Mr.Palmer Says:

    Dylan’s gonna cover Hoist

  25. guitarpicker420! Says:

    I’ll be lucky if he plays more than 17 songs or so. I saw him on Halloween back in ’99 with Phil and Friends at UIC Pavillion. The Murat will be a much nicer venue. This keeps the streak alive, I have seen Dylan every year since 1996. Some much better than others….

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