A Curve To the Place Where I Stay

12.28.09 (Shawn Williams)

While Phish has dipped into their post-hiatus material this go-round, for some reason they haven’t gone for some of the era’s most significant pieces. While keeping ‘”Seven Below,” 46 Days” in rotation, the band has also touched on “Undermind” from time to time. In this era of their career Phish has, not surprisingly, favored their classic vehicles to pieces from their second era whose quality is constantly debated in the community. While they continue to inexplicably ignore two of their most profound jam vehicles in “Scents and Subtle Sounds” and “A Song I Heard the Ocean Sing,” there is another post-hiatus song, yet to make its debut this era, that would fit the band’s current style congruently – “Round Room.”

Round Room (2002)

“Really?” you might ask. Yes; really. In its four appearances in 2003, “Round Room” produced four pieces of layered, abstract, and melodic jamming – a style that came into play this past summer. The post-hiatus versions, all played before the their decline,  lent themselves to intricate, interwoven fairy tales. And with the whole band communicating in such fine style these days, and Fishman tearing apart rhythms behind ambient collaborations, “Round Room” could be a source of deeply engaging improvisation.

But alas, will Trey allow Mike’s song to thrive? It seemed like Red’s reputation for keeping his band mates’ songs at bay was loosening during Leg I when Phish debuted Page’s “Halfway to the Moon” and Gordon’s “Idea,” but both songs were never heard from again, and in retrospect, almost seemed like a formality.  If the band does decide to dig into their post hiatus vault, one would only hope Trey sees the shining pool of possibilities that lie in his bass player’s title track to Round Room.

6.17.10 (J.Reiss)

With the band pulling out songs from throughout their career, why not take a look at this one? With the potential to morph into sessions of selfless jamming, “Round Room” seems congruent with the band’s current direction and could develop into a psychedelic trampoline. Phish is doing just fine – don’t get me wrong – but if they are looking to expand their group of live offerings, consider this a suggestion. A piece that could shoot innocent concert-goers into outer space with little warning, the island-turned-galactic anthem would make a stellar addition to the current catalog.

Here are a couple versions from 2003. See what you think.

2.28.03 Nassau


2.16.03 Vegas



Jam of the Day:

Disease > Lizards” 12.12.95 II

Some ferocious December ’95 psychedelia from Providence Civic Center – another Fall 2010 venue.




12.4.1995 Mullins Center, Amherst, MA < Torrent

12.4.1995 Mullins Center, Amherst, MA < Megaupload

Mullins Center - UMASS

The first night of Phish’s two-night stand at Amherst ’95. After the following night, Phish hasn’t returned to the on-campus arena – until now! This fall Phish is heading back to the venue that has already hosted four mid-90s spectacles, and is primed to make Mullins Center a central stop in their 2010’s New England path.

I: Julius, Gumbo, The Divided Sky, Punch You In the Eye, Stash, My Mind’s Got a Mind of its Own, Axilla (Part II), The Horse > Silent in the Morning, Hello My Baby, While My Guitar Gently Weeps

II: Timber Ho!, Sparkle, Ya Mar, Run Like an Antelope, Billy Breathes, Cars Trucks Buses, You Enjoy Myself, Sample in a Jar, Frankenstein

E: Bouncing Around the Room, Rocky Top

Source: AKG 460B/ck61 > custom pre-amp > Teac DA-P20 (@ 48kHz)

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705 Responses to “A Curve To the Place Where I Stay”

  1. halcyon Says:


    Do you have any MMW? Looking for a particular show?

  2. lastwaltzer Says:


    If I understand it correctly his acoustic has been set up to trigger electronic noises. I heard his recent solo shows were loud and contained lots of feedback.

    There were pretty funny shirts for the tour with a picture of neil and speech bubble that said: I said solo, never said it’d be acoustic.

  3. voopa Says:


    I’ve been collecting MMW shows as long as etree’s been around…have about 50. Why do you ask?

  4. halcyon Says:


    A friend and I are searching for this one: http://db.etree.org/shninfo_detail.php?shnid=27135

    Woodstock, NY

    Only 3 sources it seems.

  5. kenny powers Says:

    spun 9/8/00 on the way into work, heard it for the first time since being there. crowd energy is crazy. Nice Ghost and Taste in set I. Will get to that monster Gin on the way home…

  6. voopa Says:


    Nope, sorry. I’ll poke around today and see if I can find it.

    Late for work- gotta go!

  7. albert walker Says:

    As indifferent as I am to neils albums post Zuma never been disappointed at a live show

    Missed the last tour though

    Would be cool to do a big crazy horse tour again

  8. halcyon Says:

    Thanks Mr. V

  9. BingosBrother Says:

    y’all hear Buffalo Springfield is reforming, check it.


  10. KWL Says:


    that is all

  11. BingosBrother Says:

    Neil is an artist with a capital A. mucho respekto.

  12. SillyWilly Says:

    re: Round Room

    (and I really like this song. My sense of humor is similar to Mike’s I think. If I could write a song I would write Simple.)

    I think for the most part Phish lyrics should not be taken seriously – in the same way that Samuel Beckett, Tom Stoppard, or Harold Pinter’s works should not be taken seriously and yet contain themes of the most dire seriousness.

    Watch what I do here.

    I love contradictions.

    When viewed against the backdrop of their entire body of work Phish is first and foremost about subverting expectations. This theme permeates everything they do from their commitment to spontaneity and improvisation to their love of messing with fans with last second tour announcements, the Halloween game last year, the skip shows, etc.

    I think the most true thing to say about Phish is they take not being serious very serious.

    One thing I’ve noticed about us as Phish fans is we fell in love with Phish in the 90s for their youthful Fuck You to expectations. Jamming is a fuck you to the establishment. They became so good at jamming and their jamming was unlike any but a very few of the greatest of all time. We love it because it’s so free, so anti-serious.

    But these expectations became serious. Jaded fans, in a sick twist of fate, became Phish’s own worst enemy.

    and so I think it is darkly hilarious, sickly funny when Phish drops a Summer of ’89.

    I don’t WANT to hear it.

    In much the same way none of us really want to read poop jokes (Beckett) in literature.

    But after it happens, the only thing to do is say: “SHit. fuckers got us again.”

  13. butter Says:

    AW- does Neil play different shows night to night?

  14. lastwaltzer Says:


    Obama In Wonderland By Glenn Greenwald

  15. DukeOfLizards Says:

    Also, any recs for a reasonably-priced and RELIABLE 1TB external hard drive?

  16. halcyon Says:


    WD 2TB has been available at Costco for 130.00. Its a USB only, doesn’t have firewire.

  17. albert walker Says:

    Last Neil Show I caught was a scorcher including my first ever Ambulance Blues maybe my fav Neil tune

    Chicago Theater Nov 13, 2007

    1. From Hank To Hendrix
    2. Ambulance Blues
    3. Sad Movies
    4. A Man Needs A Maid
    5. No One Seems To Know
    6. Harvest
    7. Journey Through The Past
    8. Mellow My Mind
    9. Love Art Blues
    10. Love Is A Rose
    11. Cowgirl In The Sand
    12. Heart Of Gold
    13. The Loner
    14. Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere
    15. Dirty Old Man
    16. Spirit Road
    17. Bad Fog Of Loneliness
    18. Winterlong
    19. Oh, Lonesome Me
    20. The Believer
    21. No Hidden Path
    22. Encore:
    22. Cinnamon Girl
    23. Tonight’s The Night
    24. The Sultan

  18. BingosBrother Says:

    “I think the most true thing to say about Phish is they take not being serious very serious.”


  19. butter Says:

    i caught Crosby, Stills , Nash and Young at the Fillmore SF, like 10 years ago , epic stuff

  20. albert walker Says:

    Somewhat Butter

    There are rotation songs and then 5 or 6 songs a night that are rotated set to set. He has such a huge catalog he’s good about bringing out a few rarities on each tour. Lately he’s done some tours where he’s really dug into the parts of the catalog he’s never done live.

    Def not a standard tour set but at least half the songs are played every night on the tour

  21. halcyon Says:

    Facemeltage ensues upon listening to the Christiana Ghost……

  22. Kaveh Says:

    @AW – I saw the Minneapolis show of that tour….really good stuff.

  23. butter Says:

    kinda like the stones its sounds, they rotate like 3 or 4 and do drop “bust outs” that reward the tour guy

  24. lastwaltzer Says:


    you caught that “Trunk Show” yet? recorded from that tour I believe.

  25. Kaveh Says:

    Interesting article:

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