A Curve To the Place Where I Stay

12.28.09 (Shawn Williams)

While Phish has dipped into their post-hiatus material this go-round, for some reason they haven’t gone for some of the era’s most significant pieces. While keeping ‘”Seven Below,” 46 Days” in rotation, the band has also touched on “Undermind” from time to time. In this era of their career Phish has, not surprisingly, favored their classic vehicles to pieces from their second era whose quality is constantly debated in the community. While they continue to inexplicably ignore two of their most profound jam vehicles in “Scents and Subtle Sounds” and “A Song I Heard the Ocean Sing,” there is another post-hiatus song, yet to make its debut this era, that would fit the band’s current style congruently – “Round Room.”

Round Room (2002)

“Really?” you might ask. Yes; really. In its four appearances in 2003, “Round Room” produced four pieces of layered, abstract, and melodic jamming – a style that came into play this past summer. The post-hiatus versions, all played before the their decline,  lent themselves to intricate, interwoven fairy tales. And with the whole band communicating in such fine style these days, and Fishman tearing apart rhythms behind ambient collaborations, “Round Room” could be a source of deeply engaging improvisation.

But alas, will Trey allow Mike’s song to thrive? It seemed like Red’s reputation for keeping his band mates’ songs at bay was loosening during Leg I when Phish debuted Page’s “Halfway to the Moon” and Gordon’s “Idea,” but both songs were never heard from again, and in retrospect, almost seemed like a formality.  If the band does decide to dig into their post hiatus vault, one would only hope Trey sees the shining pool of possibilities that lie in his bass player’s title track to Round Room.

6.17.10 (J.Reiss)

With the band pulling out songs from throughout their career, why not take a look at this one? With the potential to morph into sessions of selfless jamming, “Round Room” seems congruent with the band’s current direction and could develop into a psychedelic trampoline. Phish is doing just fine – don’t get me wrong – but if they are looking to expand their group of live offerings, consider this a suggestion. A piece that could shoot innocent concert-goers into outer space with little warning, the island-turned-galactic anthem would make a stellar addition to the current catalog.

Here are a couple versions from 2003. See what you think.

2.28.03 Nassau


2.16.03 Vegas



Jam of the Day:

Disease > Lizards” 12.12.95 II

Some ferocious December ’95 psychedelia from Providence Civic Center – another Fall 2010 venue.




12.4.1995 Mullins Center, Amherst, MA < Torrent

12.4.1995 Mullins Center, Amherst, MA < Megaupload

Mullins Center - UMASS

The first night of Phish’s two-night stand at Amherst ’95. After the following night, Phish hasn’t returned to the on-campus arena – until now! This fall Phish is heading back to the venue that has already hosted four mid-90s spectacles, and is primed to make Mullins Center a central stop in their 2010’s New England path.

I: Julius, Gumbo, The Divided Sky, Punch You In the Eye, Stash, My Mind’s Got a Mind of its Own, Axilla (Part II), The Horse > Silent in the Morning, Hello My Baby, While My Guitar Gently Weeps

II: Timber Ho!, Sparkle, Ya Mar, Run Like an Antelope, Billy Breathes, Cars Trucks Buses, You Enjoy Myself, Sample in a Jar, Frankenstein

E: Bouncing Around the Room, Rocky Top

Source: AKG 460B/ck61 > custom pre-amp > Teac DA-P20 (@ 48kHz)

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705 Responses to “A Curve To the Place Where I Stay”

  1. SillyWilly Says:


    you wouldn’t believe what the Supreme Court has authorized the executive and Congress to do.

    and the best (worst) part is the Court will be the most conservative it has been since the ’30s.

    anxious time right now.

    but what else is new?

  2. Phamily Berzerker Says:


    interesting images to say the least.

  3. ThePigSong Says:

    wow, glad I popped in here and clicked on your link @PhamB

    incredible photos!

  4. albert walker Says:

    Rosemont Theater solo acoustic in 1999

    Set by Trey and his wife dead center 2nd row. Very good Neil show also. Used to have a stealth tape of it my friend pulled that I can’t find.

    Trey was in the Midwest for the original TAB tour at the time. We caught all the Midwest shows on the run. He attempted to play piano on Billy Breathes the next night and told how he was back stage at Neil Young and his advice was to play a song on piano cuz the crowd loved to see a musician uncomfortable.

    Needless to say Trey had to restart the song several times and it was pretty bad

    Good memories

  5. SillyWilly Says:

    cool story, AW

  6. butter Says:

    it does bring out a “human” quality to see the musicians we adore uncomfortable

    maybe thats why he does Treydhd

  7. lastwaltzer Says:



  8. Kaveh Says:

    @AW – The Oscar Meyer Theatre in Madison…really good show! I don’t think it was all that bad, the end version was good. Plus Neil told him to keep moving around so the crowd didn’t get bored; or something to that effect.

  9. lastwaltzer Says:


    shit is bad. That why you folks up in Wisc. got to help keep Russ Feingold in office

  10. kayatosh Says:

    yo, peeps. missed you folks yesterday. too busy trading to post.

    listening to round room from 2/28/2003 (Thanks, miner) — a little rough, but a good tune and definitely has expansion possibilities.

  11. b-rock Says:

    PB, holy shit those photos are nuts.

  12. lastwaltzer Says:

    Cool story AW, from what I hear Neil loves to give advice to younger musicians. Before the bridge school shows he has everyone to his house.

    One year thom yorke asked neil if he could do “After the goldrush” neil said okay, only if you do it on the piano i wrote it on

  13. Robear Says:

    Thx all re: 7/2/98 torrent. @ school now. Will finalize later.

  14. butter Says:

    Round Room:

    might as well listen to the offerings of the day

    before i just say “i don’t like the lyrics”

    i remember when i heard this tune in 2.0, just thinking this is everything wrong with Phish

    just a Mike song that doesn’t work for me

    tying to give it a fresh spin

    doesn’t work for me, keep it shelved

    just getting to the jam and its starting to get interesting, tho

  15. Robear Says:

    Add ‘Halleys’ 12/7/99 to that jampilation @ whoever was asking.

  16. ColonelJoy Says:

    I like quirky Mike songs….but Miner


  17. VTsnowboarder802 Says:

    round rooms – gotta disagree. have no use for the song.

  18. voopa Says:

    Round Room has a special place in my heart because in Dec. ’02 (right around the time RR was released) we moved to a house that had rounded corners in the living room. Our very own round room.

  19. lastwaltzer Says:


    were you taken there when you passed out?

  20. El Duderino Says:

    I thought the story went that Neil told Trey that nobody wants to see anyone just play acoustic guitar because it was too boring and playing piano helps break up the monotony?

  21. El Duderino Says:

    Rosemont Theater = Nice Rooom = Sucks because they don’t let you bring drinks to your seat

  22. voopa Says:

    LLFA @ lw

    Almost…one night in ’04 we saw The Duo and I got pretty shitty. Fortunately we had a roommate at the time, and he was driving that night. Didn’t pass out until we got home though.

  23. halcyon Says:

    Boston Peeps

    Cactus Show moved to the Paradise

  24. Kaveh Says:

    @Miner – can’t get enough of the Jones Beach: Mike’s sandwich. The jams out of Simple and Backwards are truly amazing, especially the latter.

  25. lastwaltzer Says:


    That mikes groove is awesome, that rock and roll wasn’t too shabby either.

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