The Festival Buzz

Watkins Glen, New York

The Watkins Glen rumor mill got some strong spins this weekend from two conflicting sources. On Saturday,, a blog based out of New York state, poured gasoline on an already-burning fire by claiming that Phish had signed contracts in place for an 8 set, 3 day Phish-only festival. This report came as a tremendous relief for Phish fans, many who had feared, based on last-week’s speculation, that the band’s festival might be encroached upon by the unwanted scene of The Dave Matthews Band. But as soon as Phish fans began celebrating and discussing summer plans, there came a retort.

Yesterday, Watkins Glen Racetrack President, Michael Printup, publicly denied these reports in the Elmira Gazette saying:

We don’t know who is putting that out. There are a bunch of erroneous sites out there. We’ve been working with a concert promoter. But we don’t even have a contract. It’s all wishful thinking. We haven’t even signed a contract with a promoter. You do that first. Then it’s up to him to see what band he gets…Watkins Glen International is looking at some kind of summer concert, but it’s too early to even start talking about bands.

But when Hidden‘s Scotty B reached out to Peter Stergion of BandsThatJam for clarification of their report, Stergion was quick to stand by his story. Stergion explained:

The WGI President has to deny the story. They can’t publicly confirm until all the loose ends have been tied up. Our source has given us credible, specific information. Our source is not a Phish fan so they wouldn’t even have the ability to make up the information which is very consistent with what Phish has done in the past.

While not getting any more specific on their, allegedly, rock solid source, Stergion went on to defended his report to Hidden Track:

We publish stories based on good information from good sources. We take a look at the circumstances of the information and decide whether or not it’s credible. In this case we believe this will happen so we published it…We never heard DMB mentioned by anyone in person or any sources from within Watkins Glen. We’re confident that Watkins Glen will be a Phish-only festival.

10.31.09 (G.Lucas)

Well, we’ve heard both sides of this hot topic, and while I am leaning towards believing the report of a Phish-only festival, who can know for sure? The Phish at Watkins Glen rumors have circulated for quite some time now, but a true scare came last week when The Dave Matthews Band, who shares a management company, announced 4 multi-day, multi-band festivals around the country this summer. The feared crossover of the Phish and Dave Matthews scenes seemed imminent, and plenty of people were quick to voice plenty of reasons why that was not a good idea. But let’s not even go there. Hopefully, that disaster has been averted. If such an atrocity ever materialized, be sure I’ll weigh with my two cents.

But for now we will wait…and wait. Phish announced their entire 2010 Summer Tour in March last year, but in 2009, they dropped their first set of dates in January and their second set in March. In short, we could hear any day between now an April. With both Trey and Mike about to kick off their own tours, one might guess that Phish wait until they are done to tell us their summer plans. But then again, who knows? Surrounding hotels (of which there are few) and RVs have already been booked around the Watkins Glen area based on buzz alone. And if I had to guess, 8 sets over 3 days sounds just right to end a tour. One can hope…


Jam of the Day:

Ghost” 7.23.97 II SBD

A seminal Summer ’97 version.

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7.23.1997 Lakewood Amphitheatre, Atlanta, Georgia

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The third show US Summer ‘97 capped a comic-book opening to US Summer ’97. Following Virginia Beach and Raleigh, Phish moved down to Atlanta and funked hard in their second visit to the venue. With, perhaps, the hottest “Ghost” of the summer and a smoking “YEM” the band left some legitmate jams in Atlanta, and they were off to Texas at the beginning of a revolutionary summer season. This show goes out via Twitter request to @LacobbieWan! (If you’re on Twitter, follow me @mrminer)

I: Julius, Dirt, NICU, Dogs Stole Things, Ginseng Sullivan, Water in the Sky, Limb By Limb, Split Open and Melt, Billy Breathes, Possum

II: Punch You in the Eye, Ghost > Sample in a Jar, You Enjoy Myself > Rocky Mountain Way* > Chalk Dust Torture

E: Frankenstein

Notes: *Debut, Joe Walsh cover

Source: Schoeps CMC641 > Sonasax > SBM-1 > DA-P1

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1,063 Responses to “The Festival Buzz”

  1. angryjoggerz Says:

    And in case anyone did not figure this out yet, Selector J is the real reggae guy here. I am like the Lenny Kravitz of the reggae selectors, haha.

  2. Mr. Palmer Says:

    AJ- which one is your latest creation? thanks for the tunes. You have a lot of stuff i’d like to grab. Some of that VU and Miles as well. thanks for sharing.

  3. Type III Jamming Personality Disorder Says:

    wow. three song sets? count me in!

    I’d probably go 2001>Hood>Slave for the first and then Jim, Stash>Gin for the second. now that would be a show that flips some lids.

  4. Gratefulcub Says:

    Christiana 😉

  5. Mr. Palmer Says:

    T3- those weren’t set list requests..llfa. Just would like to see some set I staples to to set II and vice versa. make sense?

  6. KWL Says:

    i just heard on tv that silly has a snow day tomorrow

  7. Type III Jamming Personality Disorder Says:

    I know, palmer. just looked to good to pass up. you have to admit, it would be pretty polarizing.

  8. Mr. Palmer Says:

    Has there ever been a 3 song set? 11.23.97?

    Gin> Disease>Bold as Love? does Low rider count or was it just a little tease? i don’t remember.

  9. BingosBrother Says:

    “um… what now?”

    You are the one who sent me to the gyrowheel originally, right? either way, just messin around, but I can’t go to a damn site w/ ads without seeing that thing.

    Who’s got my RCMH Ghost DL?

  10. dognamedwilson Says:


    Cannot stop listening to the Went Gin. Absolutely amazing, uplifting,SOJOURNIC. What a payoff for those that made the trip.

    I could stay right here forever. My goodness. Standing before anything like this would cause me to melt into the floor and simply drip away- having never existed at all. Seriously, “I”, being fully realized, would just fade into THE sound and BE swept away. GONE


  11. BrandonKayda Says:


    7.2.97 II

    Stash->Llama->Wormtown Jam->Wading

  12. Mr. Palmer Says:

    “12.2.95 Tweeze is not for the faint-hearted.” – miner

    ^^you can say that again. wowzers. loved it.

    great call BK. How could i forget Wormtown!

  13. DukeOfLizards Says:

    6.22.95 II


  14. Type III Jamming Personality Disorder Says:

    oh, right, bingos. forgot about that thing! sorry bout that… just find the cookie and delete it, I suppose.

    set II: Theme>Tweezer>Reprise

  15. Mr. Palmer Says:

    new source.. Dark Side show.


  16. Type III Jamming Personality Disorder Says:

    nice duke.
    totally forgot about that being a three-songer @BK.

  17. BingosBrother Says:

    I delete my cookies every day. that thing has a life of its own.

  18. KWL Says:

    i’d have to say RCMH

    that post peak melodic jam led by trey in the christiana is sick though

    christiana also has the distinction of being among the best aud pulls, ever

  19. Type III Jamming Personality Disorder Says:

    nothing like starting the show* with almost 40 minutes of VLB

    maybe ad sense really really really thinks you should get one.

    *yes, I am aware that “Hello Old Friends” actually opened the show

  20. BrandonKayda Says:

    That 33min Viola Lee Blues is incredible – how do you open with such an unbelievable, connected jam? And then the set also had to include Wolfman’s Brother->Uncle John’s Band, which took up nearly 40mins

  21. sumodie Says:

    @bingos: click my name for the RCMH Ghost SBD, apple lossless

    as well as Tweezer 12-2-95 AUD

    and 9.29.99 Memphis 2001 SBD

    hope you got the 2.17.97 DWD sbd too…..>>>>

  22. Andrew Says:

    Man construct a 3-song set show?

    I – Bag > Tweezer > Split

    II – Halley’s > Twist > Ghost

    E: Angel Of Death

  23. Mr. Palmer Says:

    “That 33min Viola Lee Blues is incredible – how do you open with such an unbelievable, connected jam?”

    especially considering it wasn’t even a band that played together before. Those 3 shows would be in my top five to go visit in the Phish Tour Hot Tub Time Machine, no doubt.

  24. poop goblin Says:

    that Hello Old Friends > Viola is probably my favorite live music memory in all the shows I caught from any band. maybe seen hotter jams but that shit is just such a great memory

    no one had any idea what songs to expect and what level of playing

    to come out with Viola was so huge. after a while Phil played everything and we knew all songs were game but at the time just hearing Phil play VIola was amazing enough. throw in a jam like that.

    what a run.

  25. Gratefulcub Says:

    The Christiana aud is an all time great recording.

    It’s all about preference. Deep summer 98 groove, vs millennial ghost.

    ME= no good options

    These 2 ghosts= no wrong choice

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