Pre-Ball Odds and Ends

6.10.11 (G.Lucas)

Trey In Rolling Stone: In a short but candid interview published in Rolling Stone yesterday, Trey mentioned that Phish will be working on a new album this winter, 2012 will be light on touring, and that he is considering covering Metallica’s “Master of Puppets.” Read the whole piece here!

An interesting excerpt from Trey on the history of Phish festivals:

The festivals grew organically out of our early scene in Vermont. We were always a party band and we used to play outside a lot. People always seemed to show up. I remember a big pig roast at our friend Ian’s farm one summer – everyone came and slept in the field. We did a gig at our friend Amy’s farm in Maine and suddenly it was 5,000 people. Then we went to Plattsburgh and it was 50,000. You have to keep in mind, though, that there were no festivals to speak of when Phish was doing those early ones. I remember hearing about Burning Man, but even that was just getting going in the Nineties. Now there are tons, but it all felt very cutting edge in the mid-Nineties. There was no playbook. We were making it up as we went along.


Live Bait Vol. 5

Live Bait Volume 5: With Super Ball IX just around the corner, Phish archivist, Kevin Shapiro, dropped yet another in the ongoing series of free (MP3) Live Bait download compilations. This time, Kevin featured selections exclusively from Phish “festivals” dating all the way back to 1989. Totaling 34 tracks, this is the most extensive Live Bait to date. Download the selections here!


Phish Thoughts Book Contest #2 Results: This time around, there was much more parity amongst the top contenders, with only two points separating 13 entries. But the only person to score 7 points was Dave Lieben! Congrats, Dave, your prognostication skills have won you a free, signed copy of Phish Thoughts: The Book! Contest #3 is now open. Make your picks for the second leg of Summer Tour, including Colorado. Get your entries in by June 21st to qualify for a free, signed copy of Mr. Miner’s Phish Thoughts: An Anthology By a Fan For the Fans! Below are the tight results of contest #2.

7 – Dave Lieben

6 – Shane Collins, Peter Jans, Lauren

5- Matty Tiscornia, Proj Mersch, Michael Pearlman, Matt Colna, Martin Foster, Kimchi McGee, J.R. Haun, Ed Mello, Don Kane



944 Responses to “Pre-Ball Odds and Ends”

  1. bearito Says:

    Yes Port Timber is the bomb Miner

    I just like Alpharetta’s peak better. To my ears it’s just a bit more menacing with Page on the ivories than on the B3 & Trey is just slashing like a f’n serial killer!

  2. marcoesq Says:

    Nice, ice. I’m headed opposite direction next weekend back down south to VA.

    Brought board with me to Ports but was way too choppy and blown out. Hoping this weekend is a little better.

    love Hampton, used to drive up there every sunday when living in boston to buy booze. would sometimes catch a few and head back down 93 with cold 30 rack

  3. Mr. Palmer Says:

    Horns make everything better, i’m convinced. The Bowie from Arrowhead Ranch w/ the GCH is awesome.

    Pb on twatter? awesome. I’m a twatter newbie myself.

  4. bearito Says:

    First re-spin of this CLT Wolfman’s

    I remember grooving hard to it live

    What’s the consensus on best Wolfmans of tour?

  5. DryIceFactory Says:


    Enjoy the Timber, 46 Days and Slave. I also found Simple to be wildly underrated. I was really digging the soundscape they had crafted midway and towards the end of the jam. I think it will be the standard of what we can expect from an average simple in “4.0” and if thats the standard, keep em coming.

  6. Lycanthropist Says:

    bethel wolfman’s most experimental

    but the mpp wolfmans > boogie was pretty slick too

  7. Robear Says:

    @miner, what did you think about the Harpua>Bundle>Harpua on Live Bait? How about the Forbins>Mockingbird?

  8. bearito Says:

    Robear, you ballin?

  9. Robear Says:

    Yeah. Need hetty RV space, or we are hoteling in Ithaca, 45 mins away. Does not sound appealing. Too far from the all day WW action. Plus, riding a CID shuttle with a bunch of spunions doesnt excite me as much as it would some.

  10. DryIceFactory Says:

    Bethel and MPP Wolfman’s take the cake. Great segues into awesome follow-up jams.

    For me, if I’m making my summer highlights mix tapes (theres gonna be like 3 of em), I choose Bethel. Mainly because I would want to save my Boogie On selection for Bethel II. And Wolfman’s from Bethel I lead into an epic (and only!) Walk of tour.

  11. Robear Says:


    Bethel gets the melty Wolfman’s award, whilst DTE gets the Groove from the Get-Go award.

  12. DryIceFactory Says:

    Hampton is a very underrated beachie. I’ve had some freaky waves hit the bar there and suck right up and over me on a day when I would not expect to be getting covered at all. It’s also a great place to surf because you can spread it out pretty well even when its crowded.

  13. Lycanthropist Says:

    bethel disease is gorgeous

  14. DryIceFactory Says:

    Bethel Disease->Free is one of the most underrated jams of the summer. DTE ADS overshadows it…

  15. bearito Says:

    45 min away would suck indeed.

    Wish I could help w/ the RV. Im still 3-6 months from getting my own pull camper. Would make life so much more comfortable. Heartland makes a good one (mpg) with a great price tag. Till then I’m roughing it, but I rough it in style 😉

    Here goes Bethel Wolfman’s again

  16. bearito Says:

    Not sure if this has been posted:

  17. DryIceFactory Says:

    I’m giving Bethel 3 a listen right now, I started up 46 Days to see if I remembered that segue into 20YL correctly and I’m midway through Mike’s now. Mike’s is pretty hot for a 3.0 version. I dont think I can go out and call it underrated (there wasnt 1 jam that required immediate attention after the show) but it certainly wasnt a bad show, and I think if it dropped in 2009 it would have been considered “Good”. Nice to know how high the bar is nowadays. 🙂

  18. bearito Says:

    I really really hope to get a HUGE 46 days at the ball

    Love when they take it deep

  19. btb Says:

    Live Bait

    The Harpua made me laugh…Shapiro got a kick out of that one I’m sure

    Been a while since I revisited all of Cypress, but the SIMPLE>HYDROGEN is PH patients at its best. True tender loving care…beautiful

  20. Tom Says:

    Master of Puppets?

  21. [Not Tom] Says:

    Sorry to bring up 2004 again, but I just got a hold of the Miami 2003 run and it got me to thinking. The general consensus seems to be that 2003 included some great shows and that the year was capped off by a great run at AAArena in Miami (which I’m just now catching). So, then what happened between NYE and Vegas for things to get off track so badly. Yes, there were a few good shows in 2004 (SPAC for sure), but how did it go from “good” to “bad” so quickly?

    I stopped going to shows after 1998 (for specific reasons, nothing to do with the music or the band) and stopped listening to Phish around 2001 when the hiatus was announced. So, basically I was “away” during all of 2.0.

  22. Robear Says:

    A set with GCH is something I could get behind.

  23. Mr. Palmer Says:

    Most of 2003 has been described as the sober tour. Whether true or not, who knows. Trey would be shuttled into a waiting car right after the encore to avoid the temptations backstage.

    My guess is the pressure was building, Trey broke up the band for many reasons, and then went on a bender which culminated in Coventry. That’s the story i’ve heard and was similarly told in the Phish Bio that came out a few years ago.

  24. btb Says:

    Not Tom – Drugz

    By the time August rolled around Trey was a wreck

    They didn’t even really tour that much that year…probably less than 15 shows I’m guessing

  25. Mr. Palmer Says:

    The new TV on the Radio record is still awesome btw.

    Killer Crane is a bad ass song. Needed to re spin this album, been nothing but phish for a while.

    Got Raleigh and Portsmouth downloading for first spins as well. Nice!

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