Mid-Week Musings

6.10.11 (G.Lucas)

After the incredibly successful summer that Phish has already had, we still have a dozen shows to go! In a bit more than a week the circus will travel to the hallowed grounds of the Gorge to kick off the back end of the touring season. And things couldn’t look brighter. When we left the band just a few weeks ago, they had just thrown down the best weekend of music in the modern era amidst a full-blown Phish festival of the sorts we only dreamed about a few short years ago. It is impossible to deny the musical momentum built over the first half of this summer and— more than ever—it certainly feels like the dawning of Phish’s Golden Age.


7.3.11 (G.Lucas)

Full-blown creativity, new improvisational directions, experimental jamming, airtight communication, uncharted territory—all of these facets were part of Phish’s opening month of tour. And if the progress made from leg one to leg two during the past two summer tours is any indication, Phish is going to come back with even sharper jaws and enhanced improvisational adventure. At Super Ball, the band seemed to play with a laid-back patience, understanding that we were all there for three days and there was no reason to rush anything. As a result, almost almost no jams were ended prematurely and the weekend possessed an undeniable flow. Though some sets were better crafted than others, the band left us with a slew of the most innovative music to be played in this era.

Two nights at the Gorge, Hollywood Bowl, Tahoe x 2, Golden Gate Park, then two three-packs—at UIC and Denver…there is heck of a lot of music left to be played this summer! And just like the last two, when all is said and done, my bet is that the second leg will produce the most memorable jams of the tour. Building off a spectacular June that was in a different league than its 2009 and 2010 predecessors, the thoughts of what might come out of August is awe-inducing. Five new venues and a return to two of their most classic haunts will provide us with 24 more sets to take us through a Phishless fall. But something tells me that after a spectacular—and lengthy—summer, that won’t be too much of a problem for anyone.

In 2011,  Phish has created a buzz in the community like no time since their Hampton return. Showcasing a completely revitalized improvisational brilliance—built upon the foundation of ’09 and ’10—Phish took people by storm in Bethel and have maintained that quality of play, and improved upon it, right up through Super Ball. It’s an exciting time to be a Phish fan, as the entire comeback has brought us to right now. And heading up to the Gorge in this context, could anything be sweeter?


Jam of the Day:

Light > Number Line” 6.19.11 II

Deep in Portsmouth’s second set, Phish got into an intricate and psychedelic take on “Light” in which Trey actually sets up a quasi-transition into “Number Line.” With so much meat in his show, this “Light” jam hasn’t been discussed to much; check it out.

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510 Responses to “Mid-Week Musings”

  1. albert walker Says:

    cut spending to get budget in line over 10 years. cut loopholes and lower overall corporate rates. let bush era tax cuts roll off within a few years. the centered approach is there. I agree the far right tea partiers are keeping this thing from getting done but fuck they were voted in office by ignorant white trash americans generally so what can you do.

    let’s hope that even though this looks terrible as shit right now these idiots actually use it as a catalyst to get our books in order.

    there is no reason our government needs to spend more than it brings in. don’t need to be an ivy league economist to figure that out.

    scary shit.


    basically to me getting the books in order is the real issue here. the ceiling debate is bs.

  2. dusty Says:

    greensky at hopmonk tonight and slims tomorrow. I might only be at the sf show myself. Robear…how was the show last night?

  3. William H. Bonney Says:

    “the Howard Zinn/Chomsky academic-history concept that all prior historical eras should be re-evaluated in terms of modern ethical mores is valid to a point. ” This to me is crazy. Why is presentism important in understanding history? I completely reject that idea. The study of history is an attempt to understand the past and enrich the future. What point of judging people from bygone eras based on current social norm’s. To feel superior? I believe it clouds your ability to grasp the historical era when you do so and reach and better understanding of the events. Enjoy the convo either way. The only thing I will say about toady’s Tea Parties crictics is to go to one and meet this people you profess to understand. You will find the vast majority our good citizens concened about the future of country for their children and none of the crap I read around the media and the mindless puppet’s who parrot the hate towards them. I have attended some events and speak to these people just like I do with folks on the other side of the debate.

  4. MrCompletely Says:

    so it doesn’t bother you that your argument is based on factually inaccurate statements?

    again the connection in my analogy is that you’re dismissing historical accomplishments because they could have done more. how judgmental!

    of course it’s about symbolism for you. everything is about symbolism for you 😮

    of course these figures have been mythologized and that needs to be confronted but you take it much too far, to the point of absurdity…but then you have no problem with absurdity either, right?

    The native american genocide and slavery are two permanent blots on American history. both need to be understood better and deserve more focus. We are in agreement on that. Of course these mythologized figured are a mixed bag and that needs to be understood as well. But you’re having a serious baby with the bathwater issue here.

    In the non-symbolic, actual world of real life and the progression of human events, the American Revolution was a good thing and I’m glad it happened. You think things would have been better without it?

  5. Mr.Miner Says:

    just reading along here…

  6. dorn76 Says:

    I also chime in to say “both sides are despicable” fails to note that one side is an awful lot more despicable than the other!

    Many reasons, not the least of which are the sham economic argument they have been pushing for decades that includes such chestnuts like “taxes are too high” (they aren’t), and that “lowering taxes grows the economy” (it doesn’t).

  7. MrCompletely Says:

    @Bonney, as usual I think the truth lies somewhere between the extremes when it comes to what you term ‘presentism’ – re-interpreting history in modern terms.

    The value in the deconstruction of history is that, of course, history as we know it was indeed largely written by the winners. So there is merit in picking apart the received historical texts to show the biases they present to us. This is a worthy and important project.

    And I agree with Silly that many historical figures have been comically mythologized, and that this is worth combating. But I see it as caused at least as much by the natural human tendency towards mythology as it is by the propaganda needs of the ruling class.

    But I do think this project has gone ludicrously too far. Fortunately, very few people outside of universities take this kind of thinking seriously at all.

  8. SillyWilly Says:

    I gotta run to lunch.

    Sorry for starting this.

    have a good afternoon, everyone.

  9. mitch Says:

    reading back a bit

    gdad, always loved that pic. i sent it to robyn a while back and she cracked up. kyra is a cool girl, neat/weird for you to hang with her i bet.

    alf, def take the train but be prepared for it to take longer than expected. my 21ish hour trip back to nyc from indy turned into 48 (that did include a layover at gdad’s tho cause i had enough at that point) you remember his basement hospitality tho. that made up for it.

  10. MrCompletely Says:

    don’t be sorry

    there’s no problem here

    all in good sport

  11. William H. Bonney Says:

    I just don’t see it as a usefull in understanding history for us we have access to so much information we can read multiple sides of the event. Most of us are automaticly replused by the treatment of Native Americans under the reservation system and the lies, false promises, and broken treaties of the time. Based on our current moral values, same with slavery. I myself like to foucs on segeration as the black eye to talk about and remind people of since it wasn’t hundreds of years ago. I saw you ref. it also Mr.c . Anyway really enjoying the different ideas and glad to see a discuission unfolding. The one good thing about all the Debt Ceiling BS, is people our talking bout and thinking about this very real issue. That only a few months/year ago would have gotten a blank stare on a eye roll.

  12. SillyWilly Says:

    I don’t think they were all factually inaccurate statements, Mr. C

    as you said, logistics prevented large armies from being fielded back then

    of course the range of firearms made it difficult because you had to fit all the muskets in a small space to make it worthwhile* (*a great word for carnage, right?)

    I maintain that most (i said most) armies in the revolution were in the low thousands approaching 10,000.

    part of why armies became so big in the napoleonic war (Wellington of course had a beautifully small army made of convicts co-erced into war)

    was the propaganda got so much better

  13. mitch Says:

    “Your best case scenario for a beard is to be an above-average but not-quite-really-handsome dude with a high quality, fully grown and well manicured beard. Then you’re getting the most out of your Facial Hair Multiplier.”

    ^completely makes sense, pardon the pun. when i shaved a few weeks back everyone thought i looked 12, so i gotta at least keep it. now if i properly manicure it, then i’m in the golden zone.

    its when i w00k out and grow this face rug that i lose the attention. then again, i live in williamsburg. hipsters dig a long beard (i think)

    again beard jacking apologies
    and yes Robyn’s with a y rule.

  14. mitch Says:

    gotta run, gp420 is taking me to b-town to hang for a bit.

    later comrades

  15. William H. Bonney Says:

    I myself am more of a European history fan(buff), having taken years of classes lectures etc. I have been reading more US history again. Any books you have enjoyed on the subject Mr. C. Just finishing up “Miracle at Philadelphia” very intresting read.

  16. Robear Says:

    In general out west, natives were wiped out by gold miners. Not really a concerted effort on the part of govt. It was straight lawlessness.

    For every corrupt politician, there is a corrupt neighbor next door.

    For every dollar wasted on an unnecessary war, there is a dollar wasted on an able bodied person scamming our social security net.

    Dusty, GB was a great time. It’s like a mini reunion for all us Michigan heads when they come through town.

  17. MrCompletely Says:

    white liberals love to talk about historical racial inequity but none of them want to pay reparations out of their own pocket

    we also love to talk about the native genocide but no one talks about actually giving the land back

    talk talk talk talk talk talk talk

  18. verno329 Says:

    My beard does not have a political agenda (that I know of) but it does a great job of hiding my face. Every now and then I get bored and shave it completely off and look in the mirror and remember why I have it. To quote Kramer “Don’t look at me, I’m hideous”

  19. Robear Says:

    Funny, C. I’ve been feeling ‘vibes out’ of native country more this summer, than any time I’ve lived out here. Strange times everywhere. Lots of tension. Part of me thinks, walk away, help give the land back. The other part sees a future of welfare casinos surrounded by govt housing ghettos.

  20. SillyWilly Says:

    Again, I’m out good.

    Thanks for humoring me today!

    you all rock

  21. alf Says:

    ‘The native american genocide and slavery are two permanent blots on American history’

    ^mr C i think there’s the difference b/t you and silly: genocide and slavery are a ‘blot’ for you, on a story that is otherwise about much different/many other things… but they are fundamental to the very operation and structure of american democracy/capitalism for silly – and genocide and slavery continue today in other forms

    not that you would dispute the later (forms of slavery continue today), but they are more incidental to you, i think. bad stuff around the edges. for silly they are fundamental to the entire project – can’t have american democracy and freedom (whatever that means) without exploitation. i think that starting point, first principles kinda thing is the difference here

    if i can put words in your mouths

    maybe i’m wrong. i should be working instead of lurking anway.

  22. SillyWilly Says:

    I don’t know what I meant by “I’m out good” Im out for good is what I meant

  23. William H. Bonney Says:

    The historical logstics of supplying Washington’s Army if any one really cares:


  24. MrCompletely Says:

    no silly that’s not what you said

    you said armies would have been bigger if the poor folks cared

    that is false, the limits were as I said based on economic and logistical factors

    and napoleonic and civil war armies were not bigger due to propaganda, they were bigger due to a combination of population increase due to industrialism, the resulting feasibility of mass conscription, and above all, improvements in logistics i.e. the ability to supply very large armies in the field over long time periods. In the US civil war this was particularly abetted by the rail networks which were growing exponentially at the time.

    Propaganda had a little to do with it in terms of setting the conditions for the war…but there was propaganda on all sides in all these wars….once the wars started, due to both real political reasons and propaganda, the size of the armies wasn’t really influenced by propaganda at all

  25. SillyWilly Says:


    thanks for redeeming me.

    thats exactly what I meant

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