The Influence of Webcasts?

PNC- 5.31.11 ( (C.LaJaunie)

Phish announced yesterday that they will be webcasting their two sold-out shows from Lake Tahoe on Monday and Tuesday next week. Fans from across the nation—and the world—will be able to tune in to the twin bill for only $24.99, exponentially increasing the 7,000 person audience with a virtual cast of thousands. But is this a good thing for the integrity of the show? Does a show being webcasted alter the band’s performance? Does it change the way Trey arranges the setlist in his mind? Maybe so, maybe not.

One thing we know for sure is that thousands of Phish fans get to enjoy a pimped-out couch tour experience when Phish drops a webcast, and that is certainly a huge positive—that much is a given in this discussion. But is the show that fans watch on widescreens at home the same show that would have gone down were they not wired in? One would hope that the band wouldn’t “play to the webcast,” but at times, it seems that this happens. Often favoring anthems, bustouts, and a moving setlist, webcasts in this modern era don’t always translate to huge jams.

7.3.11 (G.Lucas)

The last two webcasted shows—Alpharetta’s two-night stand—didn’t turn out so great. Though the first night boasted some highlights, the only musical adventure over two shows came in “Disease,” and the only other jam that moved outside the box over four sets was “Light Up or Leave Me Alone.” Fun shows? Sure, but dwarfed by most nights of tour. “What about MSG?,” one might ask? Well, there were some jams here and there, but other than “Tweezer,” “Sand,” “Ghost” and “Simple,” there wasn’t a hell of a lot left to go over. But in that case, the webcast and the inherently planned-out nature of a New Year’s Run, collided in some glossy—though entertaining—sets.

The issue with webcasted shows during this era of sobriety is that the band has yet to truly let themselves go—without caring what might come out—in front of a pay-per-view audience. Aside from 12/30’s “Tweezer” and 1/1’s “Simple,” just about every jam from MSG possessed a certain linear quality, only seldom flirting with transcendence. Trey, we all know, still battles his mind (and band members) cutting off jams through this past tour (albeit far less often). Do webcasts just add something else to think about, causing him to consider what the people at home want to hear? I don’t know, but when he cut “Tweezer” for “Julius” after a monsoon in Alpharetta, one had to wonder if he wanted to get in more songs and why.

7.3.11 (G.Lucas)

Perhaps all of these conjectures have no bearing in reality. Perhaps it is mere coincidence that the past five webcasted shows weren’t exactly drenched in improvisational adventure. Or, perhaps there would have been a jam in the first or third set of New Year’s Eve were it not for the pay-per-view performance. Hopefully, the Tahoe shows will blow up and  dispel any connection between webcasts and mediocrity. I’ll be the first to admit it and cheering them on. But all of a sudden, the intimate 7,000 person Lake Tahoe shows don’t feel so intimate, especially when your buddies from the east coast blow up your phone with texts as they watch along with the show that you traveled across the country to attend.

Even if the webast never affected the music, does it not effect what is sacred about a Phish show? Shows are irreplaceable experiences that happen at one time in one place. Should people be washing dishes and putting babies to sleep at setbreak? Trust me, I support the inclusive feature of the webcast, but does it cut into what is cherished about a Phish show if kids across the country are ripping tubes while watching “Tweezer” with a soundboard feed? The technology of the future is great. Or is it?


Jam of the Day:

Harry Hood” 9.11.99 II

Another Gorge highlight to bring us through the week.


1,898 Responses to “The Influence of Webcasts?”

  1. Corey Says:


  2. butter Says:

    Seems like it’s goin down

  3. Andrew Says:

    Princess P on Hoodstream is coming through now, so much for going to bed.

  4. BrandonKayda Says:

    20min Rock and Roll->dark jam->funk->Meatstick

    Sweet. Wish i could hear this

  5. locust the lurker Says:

    why can’t you bk? Princess P.

  6. butter Says:

    Meatsticked… the bb wonders if the serious jamming is done

  7. BrandonKayda Says:

    Because everyone in my house is asleep and I don’t have my room tonight where my headphones would be

  8. JMarks1445 Says:

    oh yes. mike bombs.

  9. BrandonKayda Says:

    yemblog says there was a jam in Roggae and Roses. I’ll take it. Please don’t end the jams in this set though

  10. JMarks1445 Says:

    sounds like there coming out firing with the jams in the 2nd. it be phunky.

  11. voopa Says:


  12. JMarks1445 Says:

    boogie on.

  13. DaNcInG fOoL Says:

    yemblog mentions nothing about a roses jam

  14. JMarks1445 Says:

    there was a short jam into the bowie intro.

  15. BrandonKayda Says:

    Sorry, I misread a post on there. I thought the Patient jam comment was referring to the Roses when it was talking about the Bowie

  16. DaNcInG fOoL Says:

    the roses jam isn’t until UIC

  17. Andrew Says:

    I like this Boogie jam though

  18. JMarks1445 Says:

    oh yes, this is awesome.

  19. BrandonKayda Says:

    it ahould’ve been at MPP damn it 😉

    So close…

  20. Andrew Says:

    Yay, sing-a-long time!

  21. JMarks1445 Says:

    first farmhouse of ’11. this is welcome.

  22. Corey Says:

    Well, I mentioned the northern lights…too cloudy in Boston; guess this is the closest ill get…

  23. BrandonKayda Says:

    Farmhouse. Lame.

    It wouldn’t be so bad if he didn’t say the jam was getting creative literally a minute before it got Horse’d.

    But I’m bitching on the internet after a 30+min sequence of Rock and Roll->Meatstick->Boogie On. Oh well I guess

  24. voopa Says:

    Since its debut, Farmhouse has been played, on average, every 7 shows.

  25. voopa Says:

    Nice, Trey.

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