The Influence of Webcasts?

PNC- 5.31.11 ( (C.LaJaunie)

Phish announced yesterday that they will be webcasting their two sold-out shows from Lake Tahoe on Monday and Tuesday next week. Fans from across the nation—and the world—will be able to tune in to the twin bill for only $24.99, exponentially increasing the 7,000 person audience with a virtual cast of thousands. But is this a good thing for the integrity of the show? Does a show being webcasted alter the band’s performance? Does it change the way Trey arranges the setlist in his mind? Maybe so, maybe not.

One thing we know for sure is that thousands of Phish fans get to enjoy a pimped-out couch tour experience when Phish drops a webcast, and that is certainly a huge positive—that much is a given in this discussion. But is the show that fans watch on widescreens at home the same show that would have gone down were they not wired in? One would hope that the band wouldn’t “play to the webcast,” but at times, it seems that this happens. Often favoring anthems, bustouts, and a moving setlist, webcasts in this modern era don’t always translate to huge jams.

7.3.11 (G.Lucas)

The last two webcasted shows—Alpharetta’s two-night stand—didn’t turn out so great. Though the first night boasted some highlights, the only musical adventure over two shows came in “Disease,” and the only other jam that moved outside the box over four sets was “Light Up or Leave Me Alone.” Fun shows? Sure, but dwarfed by most nights of tour. “What about MSG?,” one might ask? Well, there were some jams here and there, but other than “Tweezer,” “Sand,” “Ghost” and “Simple,” there wasn’t a hell of a lot left to go over. But in that case, the webcast and the inherently planned-out nature of a New Year’s Run, collided in some glossy—though entertaining—sets.

The issue with webcasted shows during this era of sobriety is that the band has yet to truly let themselves go—without caring what might come out—in front of a pay-per-view audience. Aside from 12/30’s “Tweezer” and 1/1’s “Simple,” just about every jam from MSG possessed a certain linear quality, only seldom flirting with transcendence. Trey, we all know, still battles his mind (and band members) cutting off jams through this past tour (albeit far less often). Do webcasts just add something else to think about, causing him to consider what the people at home want to hear? I don’t know, but when he cut “Tweezer” for “Julius” after a monsoon in Alpharetta, one had to wonder if he wanted to get in more songs and why.

7.3.11 (G.Lucas)

Perhaps all of these conjectures have no bearing in reality. Perhaps it is mere coincidence that the past five webcasted shows weren’t exactly drenched in improvisational adventure. Or, perhaps there would have been a jam in the first or third set of New Year’s Eve were it not for the pay-per-view performance. Hopefully, the Tahoe shows will blow up and  dispel any connection between webcasts and mediocrity. I’ll be the first to admit it and cheering them on. But all of a sudden, the intimate 7,000 person Lake Tahoe shows don’t feel so intimate, especially when your buddies from the east coast blow up your phone with texts as they watch along with the show that you traveled across the country to attend.

Even if the webast never affected the music, does it not effect what is sacred about a Phish show? Shows are irreplaceable experiences that happen at one time in one place. Should people be washing dishes and putting babies to sleep at setbreak? Trust me, I support the inclusive feature of the webcast, but does it cut into what is cherished about a Phish show if kids across the country are ripping tubes while watching “Tweezer” with a soundboard feed? The technology of the future is great. Or is it?


Jam of the Day:

Harry Hood” 9.11.99 II

Another Gorge highlight to bring us through the week.


1,898 Responses to “The Influence of Webcasts?”

  1. ae Says:

    Glad we’re all on the same page here. Haha

  2. BrandonKayda Says:

    This Gorge Roggae goes out there. I like it.

  3. BrandonKayda Says:

    No segue between Roggae and Walk Away – at all.

    Roggae is awesome though. Giving RnR jam another listen

  4. BrandonKayda Says:

    This entire jam is awesome. Goes into storage jam territory and doesn’t return from the muck at about 12:30. Sick.

  5. SillyWilly Says:

    I like Roggae

    always felt like it brought a great texture to a show

    always want them to explore the Roggae structure

  6. DukeOfLizards Says:

    I love the smell of tour in the morning.

  7. SillyWilly Says:


    I made the decision to bring the beard this morning

    im gonna have to shave everyday for the rest of my life after christmas so I might as well get my kicks while I can

  8. kayatosh Says:

    morning, BB. spinnin the taylor C aud. pull as I type. sounds great. I’m on Gin. Gin has an organic, smooth buildup of intensity and tempo. $$.

  9. SillyWilly Says:


    smells a little like sweat, burnt nugs, stale beer, and coffee

  10. DukeOfLizards Says:


    Gonna go grab a bacon egg and cheese, some coffee, and the NYT crossword, and plunk down on the couch for a morning spin.

  11. BrandonKayda Says:

    This RnR is freaky.

    Reminds me of some 95′ style psych out stuff. Really great.

  12. kayatosh Says:

    nellie kane (6.8), taste (6.5), roggae (5.31), walkaway (5.27), RnR (6.17), farmhouse (12.27.2010)

    all other 8.5.2011 tunes were played at sball.

    lovely set I as far as song selection, and sounding tight through MFMF.

    not so sure about the 2nd half of set II. julius>ch. zero is a undesriable set closing duo for me, but will give it a listen.

  13. BrandonKayda Says:

    The funk breakdown at 19:00 is just nasty.

  14. SillyWilly Says:

    nice research, Kaya

    it’s promising that the RnR blew up

    they didn’t use tweezer or disease or light for it

  15. SillyWilly Says:


    i saw for a little bit yesterday you were thinking about swinging into Chicago for UIC

    did that work out, man?

    would love to see you

  16. kayatosh Says:

    silly: my UIC plans are still i process. want to secure tix for tues and wed. and then i’ll grab a flight. my buddy who now lives in chitown has offered me the use of his apt., which is very close to the venue. so, still waiting on ticket help.

    would love to see you too.

  17. ThePigSong Says:

    just getting to the weird part of Roggae…

  18. DukeOfLizards Says:

    [1] Page on theremin.

    Oh word?

  19. SillyWilly Says:

    word, Kaya

    good luck. let us do some leg work and see if we can turn up some tickets.

  20. DukeOfLizards Says:

    16 minutes in, this is just splendidly weird.

  21. kayatosh Says:

    in honor of tour and against my better judgment, gonna have a small cup of coffee.

  22. Mr palmer Says:

    Book a flight. There are tickets. I got a tues. Sec 113.

  23. Mike in Austin Says:

    ::slow claps:: for the segue into Meatstick.

    Missing UIC would be terrible. I truly hope my father in law makes it ok so I can be there.

  24. SillyWilly Says:

    enjoy it, Kaya

    you’re a man of good discipline

  25. ThePigSong Says:

    Dooooo eeeeet

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