A Box Set Debate…

In Stores Today

Instead of posting on Phish Thoughts today, I co-wrote an article with “Guy Forget” of Online Phish Tour for publication on their site. With the official release of the Hampton/Winston-Salem box set today, we had a written debate on which show is the “best” in the box—nothing like making art compete! I made a case for 11.23 at Winston-Salem, while he took the position of Hampton’s second night, 11.22. Check out the article, it should be a fun read!


Jam of the Day:

Tweezer -> Izabella” 12.6.97 II

Today is the 14 year anniversary of my favorite “Tweezer” ever played.


Here’s a link to a piece I wrote about this jam a while back. I’ll post the beginning below.


My “Go-To” Jam

12/6/97 "Tweezer" T-Shirt - LE

Everyone has a go-to jam. It fits any mood you could ever be in, and you’ve listened to it several hundred times in your life. It is the first piece of music you want to hear when you are glowing after a show, ready to conquer the world. It is the first piece of music you want to listen to after a hard day at work. It is the only piece of music you could never possibly get sick of, even if played on a loop in your head forever. It is that analog tape you played to death, that CD you never lost, and now it is forever stored on your computer, iPod, and several other devices. It is part of you; you feel like what you hear, it just all fits. For me, there is only one answer to this scenario—the “Tweezer” from Auburn Hills ’97. Read on!


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  1. tela'smuff Says:

    good morning and good debate! nice to see all the Phish bloggers playing nice.

  2. Jtran Says:

    Miner wins!

  3. Type III Jamming Personality Disorder Says:

    correction, jtran

    Miner wins!

    we all win!


  4. sumodie Says:

    the 11.22.97 vs 11.23 debate

    I’ll side with Miner on this one. There’s an overall risk taking looseness to the 11.23 show that gives it an edge over 11.22, which is also awesome

    As Miner said, don’t sleep on 11.23’s BEK, Twist>Stash and the entire Gin >> DWD segment. Hell, just spin the entire show and enjoy the delicious sound quality

    I find the so called ‘searching’ in the early part of Gin to be excellent too. To me it’s not the frustrating/boring ‘are we gonna find something’ kind of search; I find it the perfect setup to the hendrixian fireworks that follow

    And today I still love 11.21’s E.R.>Split. Still haven’t finished the entire show tho

  5. EL Duderino Says:

    W-S hands down end of story!

    The Dude has spoken!

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  7. Esteban Says:

    I recall that run to be a whirlwind of antics. I also like the 11/23 WS show over the Hamptons, as it was a backyard show (and I believe @Andrew’s first).

  8. alf Says:

    what kind of idiot starts a phish fast at the exact moment when arguably the most musically significant box released by the band drops 🙄

  9. sumodie Says:

    I did find this Miner statement very amusing:

    For the rest of the second set, the band plays through a cliche Fall ‘97 setlist

    Isn’t ‘Phish Destroys America’ the Fall 97 cliche’? I’d love to hear some of that cliche during the upcoming MSG run

  10. EL Duderino Says:

    i love the Stoney Kukoc pic on the online phish tour website

  11. EL Duderino Says:

    re: Favorite Miles Davis Albums…

    It’s really a tie for me with KOB and Miles Smiles
    I’m partial to the Wayne Shorter/Herbie lineup’s

  12. Jtran Says:

    11/22 is great for the opening segment of set 1 and the Halley’s (which is a top shelf all time jam for me)

    11/23, as I’m finding out now/again, is unrelenting start to finish.

    Trey also is botching this Fluffhead left and right. 1.0 sucks 😉

  13. Jtran Says:

    In conclusion, the whole box is awesome

  14. EL Duderino Says:

    …and then there’s Milestones

  15. Type III Jamming Personality Disorder Says:

    how does one pronounce that? that is, which syllable do you stress?



    whoa, dude. that works on so many levels. 😯

    mind blown.

  16. tela'smuff Says:

    i find it near impossible to pick a favorite Miles album. depends on the mood i’m in. but a seminal Miles album for me was Live-Evil.

  17. Kaveh Says:

    F’ing PIMP:


  18. Kaveh Says:

    @Miner: Is it YOU that is talking during this Tweezer jam?! 🙂

  19. Harry Balzano Says:

    Hey guys looking to make a deal:

    I have two Phish tickets for 12/30 Friday, section 104 up for trade for Two tickets for 12/29 Thursday show in a comparable section. Please let me know if anybody wants to make a deal.

  20. sumodie Says:

    my entry into Miles Davis’ catalog is still one of my fav:

    ‘Great Expectations’ -first track off Big Fun

    Eons ago I was in the Boston Tower Records store when that track came on over the sound system. Instant electrified ggosebumps. Walked out with that album (tho the album is not one of his best)

    From allmusic: “Most notably is “Great Expectations” from 1969, which opens the album. Here the lineup is Miles, Steve Grossman, Bennie Maupin, John McLaughlin, Khalil Balakrishna, and Bihari Sharma on sitar and tambura, Herbie, Chick Corea, Ron Carter, Harvey Brooks, Billy Cobham, and Airto. Creating a series of vamps from drones and a small melodic figure, there is very little in the way of groove or melodic development until the middle section, where a series of modalities enters the composition.”

    W-S Low Rider = aural crack :mrgreen:

  21. Steve P Says:

    FAV TWEEZER EVER. I can listen to the 2nd set every day of the week.

  22. kayatosh Says:

    greetings. TT anyone???

  23. Jtran Says:


    I have 2 in 211 for trade. Email me if interested, jtranvt23 at gmail

  24. EL Duderino Says:

    @ T3

    Sweet Tarts! 😯

  25. Mr. Palmer Says:

    posting in wrong thread…

    Argument could definitely be made that 12/6/97 set II trumps anything on the new box set.
    I’ll still take Fukuoka ’00 set II as my favorite set of Phish ever played ( not including Cypress long set).

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