TTFF: Fall ’97 In the Shadows

MSG 1997

With the release of Hampton/Winston-Salem ’97 this week, there has been a lot of Fall ’97 nostalgia within the community on the 14 year anniversary of the legendary tour. Fall ’97 boasts so many jams that are household names, that quite a few playlists could be made from well-known highlights alone. The following selections aren’t exactly diamonds in the rough, but probably don’t jump to the forefront of one’s mind when recollecting the tour. Enjoy these lesser-played gems from one of the band’s most creative tours in history as we are now within weeks of re-congregating at MSG!


Ghost > Wilson” 12.5.97 I

Though many popular “Ghosts” on this tour overshadow this laid-back, show-opening version from Cleveland.



Timber -> Simple” 11.16.97 II

Having always lived in the shadow of the gargantuan show the following night, this jam and segue are spectacular.



Bathtub Gin -> Llama” 11.19.97 I

With such a monstrous second set in Champaign, many forget that the first was quite impressive as well, and here is one of its centerpieces.



Stash > Hydrogen > Weekapaug” 12.9.97 I

This unorthodox combo came together quite nicely 14 years ago tonight at Penn State. This “Weekapaug” absolutely kills.



Drowned > Roses Are Free” 12.11.97 II

A monstrous piece of psychedelia in “Drowned” led into the debut of “Roses” in Rochester, another stellar outing along the golden road of fall.



Run Like An Antelope” 12.6.97 I

Phish applied the funk paradigm to just about everything at some point during Fall ’97. This “Antelope” was the second song of the epic outing at The Palace at Auburn Hills.

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782 Responses to “TTFF: Fall ’97 In the Shadows”

  1. El Duderino Says:

  2. WolfmansFather Says:

    Thanks dude

  3. phoammhead Says:

    good time at the xmas jam last night . . . went from 7 to about 3:30am. bloody mary time!

  4. phoammhead Says:

    is it tebow time, yet?

  5. El Duderino Says:

    almost phoamm!

    How was the P&F set last night?

  6. El Duderino Says:

    on paper it looks great

  7. phoammhead Says:

    really good, duder. the mule final set was a little nastier, crunchy and raw and was probably my favorite from last night.

  8. Robear Says:

    Hey all! Greetings from the past!

    ::west coast time zone::

  9. phoammhead Says:

    warren really puts on a great jam. i’m proud he’s an asheville boy. and the jam goes to a good cause in money for habitat for humanity.

  10. bob dylan Says:

    How bout that punk on Xavier calling his team gangsters. Shut the fuck up about what hood your from and play ball. I liked what his coach said calling em out. Maybe he will lose the scholarship and then he can go be a real gangsta.

  11. El Duderino Says:

    @ BD

    The real Punk was #34 on cincy… Fucking Thug! Can’t wait to see how Cincy players lose their scholarships and are removed from Campus. What fucking dumb asses! Cheap shot a dude and then another kicks when he’s on the ground! PLEASE!

  12. El Duderino Says:


  13. El Duderino Says:

    and that was the Ciny coach calling his player’s out not Xavier BTW

  14. phoammhead Says:

    i personally have always liked my rock-n-roll jam band lineups with one maybe two guitarists not including bass . . . a four piece lineup is my favorite. last night during los lobos there were 4 guitarists up there for a few dead songs and during p&f there were 3 guitarists (warren, jimmy herring and jackie green) up there for several songs as well. hands-full of guitarists cannot do the job of jerry . . . and at times it just draws my attention more to the fact that i miss jerry. however, with the effort and vibe, jerry is alive in spirit so we’ve got that going for us.

    that was the first time i’ve seen jackie green and i thought it is was . . . meh. hard for someone like jackie green to fill the otherwordly shoes of jer, imo.

  15. Robear Says:

    Ahhhh, Christmas Jam… many southern belles, so little time…

  16. El Duderino Says:

    the thing about Jackie is he’s not trying to fill Jer’s shoes like Fake Jerry, Barry Sless and so on. Agree on too many guitars tho’!

  17. joe Says:

    Got to get my tolerance up for the 29th. Was at a party last night and my buddy’s neighbor smoked me up with something super tasty and potent. Cut to me alone in my buddy’s basement fucking around on his electronic drum kit for the next two hours and I’m terrible at keeping a steady beat. All free-form all the time for me.

  18. joe Says:

    By the time I went back upstairs everyone else had already left the party. Then we jammed on guitars and drum for another few hours. Stoner fucks that we are.

  19. Corey Says:

    Friggin’, UK. What a tough loss. They had several chances to win it, but in typical UK fashion…let it slip away. Wide open three with .5 left? Sheesh. Let that be the only loss for the year, please…and thank you.

    No ticket re release eh? Just a false alarm, i guess…still looking for two to the 28th. Anyone?

  20. Corey Says:

    Re: the Cincy children. Just shows the true character of (sadly) a lot of athletes coming out of the inner city, with little education, poor family structure and a lack of moral fiber. I’m all for intensity but damn…and the press conf after was pathetic. That Cincy coach said he physically removed players’ jerseys. College sports are hurting these days. If i punched a player on the soccer field, i’d have been done for the season.

  21. phoammhead Says:


    sometimes when you get that ripped there’s nothin’ left to do but get lost in it . . . well played!

  22. phoammhead Says:


    at 4am or so i saw those highlights of ky blowin’ it and it made my night! 😉

    then i saw the highlights of that xav v cinci game and i was like do whaaat! whaaa happen’? whoa . . . that was a fackin’ brawl!

  23. brother Says:

    as a lifelong UC fan…..embarrassed to be sure, but lets not overreact because a few college kids from the innercity decided to throw down during the biggest rivalry game in the city. there will be suspensions and possibly kids will lose there scholarships. fights happen in sports all the time on every level in every sport. coaches, referees, lack of security, all played a part. easy on the self-righteous rhetoric and such.

  24. phoammhead Says:

    yeah i hear you, duder, about jackie. i’m not sure i’m going to warm up to him, though.

  25. phoammhead Says:

    good point @brother

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