Doubling Down?

12-30-2011 (Graham Lucas)

Amidst the many rumors spiraling through cyberspace regarding Phish’s 2012 touring plans, two have taken hold and seem to have some legs. Coincidentally, the two stands that seem to be materializing are located in each coast’s gambling mecca—Las Vegas and Atlantic City. Each of the rumors have been semi-corroborated by a Las Vegas newspaper reporter and Atlantic City’s mayor, giving them a bit more substance than your everyday Internet hearsay. Since both are seeming somewhat likely at this point in time, let’s take a closer look at the buzz.

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LAS VEGAS: March 30 – April 1 ??

Vegas, Baby?

Phish only played on April Fool’s Day in their early years, the last time coming in Portland, Oregon in 1993. If this strongly rumored run goes down, this would mark the first time in 19 years that the band would perform on this made-for-Phish, prankster holiday. Just yesterday, Las Vegas Sun columnist, J. Patrick Coolican tweeted, “Phish fans: Source sez negotiations for a 2/3 nite VEGAS run APRIL FOOLS DAY have taken new intensity. 80-20 likely, sez source.” This tweet aligns with what I have been hearing from multiple sources, thus a return to the Thomas and Mack Center seems like a distinct possibility.

While I am always down for Vegas Phish, the timing on this stand seems a bit quirky. Mike is playing with his solo band at Jam in the Dam in mid-March and then playing another date in London on March 18. Trey will be focused on his symphony tour until March 10th. These two factors alone, regardless of what Page and Fish are doing during, would preclude much practice time before the first show on March 30th. Could they pull it off with but a ten-day buffer? Of course. Might the run turnout straightforward and contained as a result of the time crunch? Quite Possibly. It seems like latter-day Phish benefits from practice even more so than in previous eras, as their lives are diversified more than ever. These Vegas shows would be just the 5th, 6th, and 7th,performances since Labor Day 2010, and practice would seem more necessary than usual. We shall see what develops.

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ATLANTIC CITY: June 15 – 17 ??

Atlantic City

While Phish headlining at Bonnaroo is another rumor that has been circulating with strength, this three-day Atlantic City run would represent a Phish-only “festival” at Bader Field. Atlantic City’s City Council has already approved festivals for June 15-17 and June 24-25, and the mayor alluded to the former being a “jam band” festival that is expected to attract 30,000 fans. With Starr-Hill, Coran Capshaw’s sister company of Red Light Management, slated to throw these events (the other of which, allegedly, features a “rock band”) it is but a forgone conclusion that Phish will play these dates. Further confirmation comes in the fact that that the Dave Matthews Band, who brought their Caravan tour to Bader Field last summer, will not be returning for either of these dates. Many fans have taken all of this info, put one and one together, and booked hotel rooms for this weekend.

This run could conceivably come at the end of a short run in May and June (with Bethel rumored for Memorial Day weekend) and, if so, AC would be a great place to end a tour. As I discussed last week, three-night stands were Phish’s bread and butter last year, and another trifecta in AC—like Halloween 2010—seems like a great time for all. With all hotels in close proximity to each other, the post-music part of this “festival” would take place in the casinos and hotels up and down The Boardwalk rather than in campgrounds and RVs—a different mid-summer twist. And if you poll the fan base, I think you’ll find few fans who didn’t have a blast in Atlantic City last time around, so here’s to hoping this one comes to fruition!

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Jam of the Day:

Help -> Slip -> Bag” 4.1.86 II

In honor of a possible April Fool’s Day show, here was how Phish opened up their second set of 4/1/86’s “Festival of Fools” at Hunt’s in Burlington—the classic “Help -> Slip -> Bag.”

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  1. freshtracks420 Says:

    Sure hope the Vegas run comes to fruition. Don’t know how I’m gonna make it….but I’ve got a feeling I’ll figure something out!

  2. Thrust Says:

    All Good w/ Furthur @ Buckeye Lake!

  3. Foul_Domain Says:

    AC sounds like more of a 3-night run, and not a festival. Hence Miner’s use of quotations, I expect. When I think festival, I think camping, art installations, different activities on the grounds, etc.

    Im sure It’ll be great fun for all, but a festi it is not.

  4. Gavinsdad Says:

    I am trying to put in to words how good Greensky Bluegrass was last nite. I guess I’d just say, “damn Robear I knew u said they were good, u didnt say HOW good”. They are a no miss…anyone in NYC, Boston, Burlington, Chicago or Madison areas should Do whatever they can to see these guys as that’s their tour trajectory.

    Kaya summed it up last nite but they did straight Up traditional, percussive breakdowns, seamless transitions, extremely high speed comping, killer heartfelt covers all while shooting the shit with the crowd in a funny easy going way.

    I had to leave after a set to attend to two(!) puking kids but one set said it all.

  5. st8 of mind Says:

    Thanks Miner, and Help>Slip>Bag. Nice.

  6. spunround Says:

    AC confirmed
    http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/news/breaking/atlantic-city-council-approves-four-summer-music-festivals-for-bader/article_611c6fe0-4253-11e1-8210-001871e3ce6c.html

  7. Mike in Austin Says:

    Selector Jay and coffee. Late night last night. Need some fiyah riddims thid mornin.

  8. bhizzle Says:

    @foul domain…….word.

    Say these dates ARE true, when would the announcement happen? When did the announcement happen last year for a Memorail Day tour kick off?

  9. Guyute711 Says:

    Just turned the selector on, perfect timing.

  10. Type III Jamming Personality Disorder Says:

    ha ha
    I pulled out the ol’ help>slip>bag the other day whilst thinking about possible 4.1 shows. good stuff. would be epic if they did it again…

    glad to hear you dug the greensky, gdad. really wish I could catch them up here on Friday.

    looks like I have a trip to AC in my future…

  11. Jtran Says:

    Catching Greensky Saturday up here

  12. Gavinsdad Says:

    Thanks @spunround. I was gonna ask u if that was an old article but today’s date doesnt lie. Gotta say, red Light is probably way frustrated with AC’s loose lips (or not).

  13. Guyute711 Says:

    Greensky seems to be the only bluegrass band that plays everywhere but the south.

  14. Type III Jamming Personality Disorder Says:

    llfa @g711

  15. Dr Pronoia Says:

    Yes! Kenny Chesney festi in AC!!

  16. Mike in Austin Says:

    I cant help but think phish playing while school is still in, has to a pretty bad idea. Both for the kids in school, and parents with kids in school.

    Vegas is such a bad idea as Miner pointed out.

  17. IrieWalton (Beantown) Says:

    Thanks for the review @ Gdad.

    I’m looking forward to catching them in Cambridge on Friday night. Pretty surprised they’re playing such a small room up here as the upstairs at the Middle East probably holds a couple hundred (tops) where the bottom room is where Trampled by Turtles and other medium sized acts usually plays.

    Yeehaw!

  18. Mike in Austin Says:

    Put out recycling, and while outside the dog gets on end table and drinks my coffee.

    Gonna be one of those days.

  19. Mike in Austin Says:

    Selector says hey to the BB massive. Wants to know why he can’t post anymore. Probably not dropping enough jazz recs methinks.

  20. Guyute711 Says:

    Don’t walk outside again, the dog’s gonna fire up a spliff next time you turn your back.

  21. Scott Says:

    Morning all,
    Can someone provide the link to the Selectors show?

  22. Gavinsdad Says:

    3rd kid puking. This virus is powerful. dad staying home today to play zone.

  23. Mr. Palmer Says:

    http://kvrx.org/listen

  24. Mike in Austin Says:

    Cover 3 defense

  25. Scott Says:

    Thank you Mr Palmer

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