Doubling Down?

12-30-2011 (Graham Lucas)

Amidst the many rumors spiraling through cyberspace regarding Phish’s 2012 touring plans, two have taken hold and seem to have some legs. Coincidentally, the two stands that seem to be materializing are located in each coast’s gambling mecca—Las Vegas and Atlantic City. Each of the rumors have been semi-corroborated by a Las Vegas newspaper reporter and Atlantic City’s mayor, giving them a bit more substance than your everyday Internet hearsay. Since both are seeming somewhat likely at this point in time, let’s take a closer look at the buzz.


LAS VEGAS: March 30 – April 1 ??

Vegas, Baby?

Phish only played on April Fool’s Day in their early years, the last time coming in Portland, Oregon in 1993. If this strongly rumored run goes down, this would mark the first time in 19 years that the band would perform on this made-for-Phish, prankster holiday. Just yesterday, Las Vegas Sun columnist, J. Patrick Coolican tweeted, “Phish fans: Source sez negotiations for a 2/3 nite VEGAS run APRIL FOOLS DAY have taken new intensity. 80-20 likely, sez source.” This tweet aligns with what I have been hearing from multiple sources, thus a return to the Thomas and Mack Center seems like a distinct possibility.

While I am always down for Vegas Phish, the timing on this stand seems a bit quirky. Mike is playing with his solo band at Jam in the Dam in mid-March and then playing another date in London on March 18. Trey will be focused on his symphony tour until March 10th. These two factors alone, regardless of what Page and Fish are doing during, would preclude much practice time before the first show on March 30th. Could they pull it off with but a ten-day buffer? Of course. Might the run turnout straightforward and contained as a result of the time crunch? Quite Possibly. It seems like latter-day Phish benefits from practice even more so than in previous eras, as their lives are diversified more than ever. These Vegas shows would be just the 5th, 6th, and 7th,performances since Labor Day 2010, and practice would seem more necessary than usual. We shall see what develops.


ATLANTIC CITY: June 15 – 17 ??

Atlantic City

While Phish headlining at Bonnaroo is another rumor that has been circulating with strength, this three-day Atlantic City run would represent a Phish-only “festival” at Bader Field. Atlantic City’s City Council has already approved festivals for June 15-17 and June 24-25, and the mayor alluded to the former being a “jam band” festival that is expected to attract 30,000 fans. With Starr-Hill, Coran Capshaw’s sister company of Red Light Management, slated to throw these events (the other of which, allegedly, features a “rock band”) it is but a forgone conclusion that Phish will play these dates. Further confirmation comes in the fact that that the Dave Matthews Band, who brought their Caravan tour to Bader Field last summer, will not be returning for either of these dates. Many fans have taken all of this info, put one and one together, and booked hotel rooms for this weekend.

This run could conceivably come at the end of a short run in May and June (with Bethel rumored for Memorial Day weekend) and, if so, AC would be a great place to end a tour. As I discussed last week, three-night stands were Phish’s bread and butter last year, and another trifecta in AC—like Halloween 2010—seems like a great time for all. With all hotels in close proximity to each other, the post-music part of this “festival” would take place in the casinos and hotels up and down The Boardwalk rather than in campgrounds and RVs—a different mid-summer twist. And if you poll the fan base, I think you’ll find few fans who didn’t have a blast in Atlantic City last time around, so here’s to hoping this one comes to fruition!


Jam of the Day:

Help -> Slip -> Bag” 4.1.86 II

In honor of a possible April Fool’s Day show, here was how Phish opened up their second set of 4/1/86’s “Festival of Fools” at Hunt’s in Burlington—the classic “Help -> Slip -> Bag.”

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396 Responses to “Doubling Down?”

  1. SillyWilly Says:

    nice. greensky’s back in madison next week

    i’ve missed them a couple times already

    not making that mistake.

    please don’t sell out before I deposit that loan check.

  2. dognamedwilson Says:


  3. dognamedwilson Says:


  4. rivertrance Says:

    thinking bout hittin this Greensky at the park west a week from this Saturday

    should come out for it Robear

  5. rivertrance Says:

    I’ve always heard great things bout Polk speakers and have many friends that love em.

    seems like the brand for price and performance

  6. alf Says:

    come for greensky, leave with new speakers

  7. butter Says:

    Paradise Waits!!!!!!!

    taking in this April Fools jam

    hell yeah, thx Miner

    i’m not so worried about practice, think they just need to loosen up a bit and flow it out. MSG 1 had jams all over the place. i feel they need to play a bit more 2.0 style when they are in this mode. cant believe i said that. but really, look how the jams flowed on night 1. so their comps werent air tight, so instead of straying from jamming, they should lean on it, like in 2.0.

    to Phish: play to your strengths boys, if your not going to practice, then let the improv flow. its a natural strength. their powers are so strong right now, think of what happens when they fuse the shreddy rawk, with their creative explorer spirits, ala SBlix 3 and Dicks

  8. Jtran Says:

    this Blackbyrds is sick. $$$ album

  9. dusty Says:

    Best thing you can do with receiver and speakers is try before you buy. Bring in a few examples of what you listen to and test it ahead of time. Take your time.

    Greensky doing the sit and ski tour…plus hawaii.

  10. Jtran Says:

    @speaker freaks

    Could one get away with just a sub and the two front speakers for most purposes? i.e. purchase all but the back speakers of the set @dog just linked?

  11. butter Says:

    totally @Jtran

    its called listening in 2ch stereo, and your subs there to kick some ass for ya

  12. rivertrance Says:

    IMO surround systems for movies are only good if you have a couple K at least to drop

    to do it right you really need to drop good coin on 6 speakers instead of just a pair. gets pricey.

    if I was doing it for mostly music I’d just get a nice pair of front towers that can handle the bass duty.

    I never use my sub for music just the towers. of course my towers each have a self amped sub so you def want to make sure the speakers you are looking at can handle the bass on their own

    I find the separate subs to be more useful in movie surround sytems than for music.

    just my .02c

  13. rivertrance Says:

    basically I’d just drop the extra money I would have spent on center, sub, and rears to get a kickin pair of fronts if I was a bit money tight

  14. dusty Says:


    bingo! Only an issue for surround and sub for kick. I have a pair of B&W for a decade now that I enough.

  15. butter Says:

    my sub is key @river, as i’m runnin Polk LSi9 bookshelves for my fronts and they dont make much bass

    and yes i’m blasting 1986 Phish thur them right now!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  16. Jtran Says:

    good info, thx guys. We currently have a 2 channel sterio system but they’re my dad’s old speakers and they’re less than great. Actually, they’re fine for movies and TV, but dig listening to music more on my small set of bluetooth speakers. Seem to have a more clear, separated sound to distinguish bass/mids/treble.

    I could be crazy tho

  17. Jtran Says:

    Seem to always be turning the bass down and treble up so the LP SBDs aren’t muddle on my main speakers. Really weird — neutral levels work great for movies etc

  18. rivertrance Says:

    for sure butter. there are def some bookshelf style set ups that need subs that sound great

    I’m old school. I like my fronts big and tall.

  19. Mr.Miner Says:

    1986 Phish FTW! Apparently this is also the first known performance of AC/DC Bag as well.

  20. rivertrance Says:

    def tech goes a bit amped sub crazy. my center channel even has one.

  21. dognamedwilson Says:

    Mine will be almost exclusively for music. idc about having a theatre setup at all. Just want a receiver that will wifi connect to my laptop out of the box and some sweet speakers.

  22. butter Says:

    my rears or surrounds are Polk LC65fx (in wall rectangles)

    my center is Polk LSiC

    my sub is Polk DSW microPRO 3000

    i use a “Panamax” voltage regulator. this is like a power strip on steroids. but sits on top of my rack and looks like a component.
    clean regulated voltage in and out. insures all you equipment up to a Mil$bucks.

    i live in the country and the power shuts on and off with storms and winds, so its pretty crucial for me. about 500$. it has front 110v ac plug ins for gaming or whatever else. this might be overkill for some, but at least get a good computer power strip that will shut off for ya.

  23. dognamedwilson Says:

    ” at least get a good computer power strip”–this would suffice then? Def not tryin to spend another $500 but that sounds bad ass.

  24. dognamedwilson Says:

    @rt mentioned ‘clean power’ too. does this mean i need some kind of regulator?

  25. butter Says:

    this 27″ imac serving all this is about to get a smack, tho

    starting to have the pinwheel of death, its about 2 years old

    and getting some lil annoying pauses in my digital music stream, i dont think mice have chewed my in wall hdmi cord, or if its just this imac getting old and clogy

    maintenance is a bitch

    i like new

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