Doubling Down?

12-30-2011 (Graham Lucas)

Amidst the many rumors spiraling through cyberspace regarding Phish’s 2012 touring plans, two have taken hold and seem to have some legs. Coincidentally, the two stands that seem to be materializing are located in each coast’s gambling mecca—Las Vegas and Atlantic City. Each of the rumors have been semi-corroborated by a Las Vegas newspaper reporter and Atlantic City’s mayor, giving them a bit more substance than your everyday Internet hearsay. Since both are seeming somewhat likely at this point in time, let’s take a closer look at the buzz.


LAS VEGAS: March 30 – April 1 ??

Vegas, Baby?

Phish only played on April Fool’s Day in their early years, the last time coming in Portland, Oregon in 1993. If this strongly rumored run goes down, this would mark the first time in 19 years that the band would perform on this made-for-Phish, prankster holiday. Just yesterday, Las Vegas Sun columnist, J. Patrick Coolican tweeted, “Phish fans: Source sez negotiations for a 2/3 nite VEGAS run APRIL FOOLS DAY have taken new intensity. 80-20 likely, sez source.” This tweet aligns with what I have been hearing from multiple sources, thus a return to the Thomas and Mack Center seems like a distinct possibility.

While I am always down for Vegas Phish, the timing on this stand seems a bit quirky. Mike is playing with his solo band at Jam in the Dam in mid-March and then playing another date in London on March 18. Trey will be focused on his symphony tour until March 10th. These two factors alone, regardless of what Page and Fish are doing during, would preclude much practice time before the first show on March 30th. Could they pull it off with but a ten-day buffer? Of course. Might the run turnout straightforward and contained as a result of the time crunch? Quite Possibly. It seems like latter-day Phish benefits from practice even more so than in previous eras, as their lives are diversified more than ever. These Vegas shows would be just the 5th, 6th, and 7th,performances since Labor Day 2010, and practice would seem more necessary than usual. We shall see what develops.


ATLANTIC CITY: June 15 – 17 ??

Atlantic City

While Phish headlining at Bonnaroo is another rumor that has been circulating with strength, this three-day Atlantic City run would represent a Phish-only “festival” at Bader Field. Atlantic City’s City Council has already approved festivals for June 15-17 and June 24-25, and the mayor alluded to the former being a “jam band” festival that is expected to attract 30,000 fans. With Starr-Hill, Coran Capshaw’s sister company of Red Light Management, slated to throw these events (the other of which, allegedly, features a “rock band”) it is but a forgone conclusion that Phish will play these dates. Further confirmation comes in the fact that that the Dave Matthews Band, who brought their Caravan tour to Bader Field last summer, will not be returning for either of these dates. Many fans have taken all of this info, put one and one together, and booked hotel rooms for this weekend.

This run could conceivably come at the end of a short run in May and June (with Bethel rumored for Memorial Day weekend) and, if so, AC would be a great place to end a tour. As I discussed last week, three-night stands were Phish’s bread and butter last year, and another trifecta in AC—like Halloween 2010—seems like a great time for all. With all hotels in close proximity to each other, the post-music part of this “festival” would take place in the casinos and hotels up and down The Boardwalk rather than in campgrounds and RVs—a different mid-summer twist. And if you poll the fan base, I think you’ll find few fans who didn’t have a blast in Atlantic City last time around, so here’s to hoping this one comes to fruition!


Jam of the Day:

Help -> Slip -> Bag” 4.1.86 II

In honor of a possible April Fool’s Day show, here was how Phish opened up their second set of 4/1/86’s “Festival of Fools” at Hunt’s in Burlington—the classic “Help -> Slip -> Bag.”

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396 Responses to “Doubling Down?”

  1. Type III Jamming Personality Disorder Says:

    bummer. looks like I’ll be needing a new way to achieve orangeness here if mega is but the first one to fall here.

  2. oldskool Says:

    Home theater sub

    2 channel sub integrated via neutrik connector for music listening

  3. kayatosh Says:

    GP420: if you’re out there, we concur on the 12.29.2011 source. still need to do a head to head btw. your choice for the 28th and this pull:

    Source: Schoeps MK41’S>PSP 2>Tascam DP2(24/44)
    OTS/BOB/DFC Section 2, Row 4, Seat 13, 8′ High
    DSP: Sound Devices 722>Sound Forge 9.0>CD Wave>flac(16)
    Recorded By: John Malagisi

    12.28 tweezer and cities — straight $$$.

  4. butter Says:

    @oldskool – wasnt that you with the tube pre amp reccs? could you drop that link if that was you ? or brand

  5. Jtran Says:

    Started up 2/20/03 Allstate. Seems to be a party night

  6. Mr. Palmer Says:

    rap Producer Swizz Beatz is the Ceo of Megaupload?

  7. rivertrance Says:


    I saw LA through that allstate show no that tour and the allstate is hands down my fav. Once set II gets goin it’s pure fire.

    That Simple is why I love 3.0. sounded like a jet crashing into the venue or some shit that night. Sick tone.

  8. Mr. Palmer Says:

    Love that Allstate show. Waves>Simple >Jibboo to close the first set is hot, hot , hot.

  9. Jtran Says:

    Rift, RnR is botched, superspeed Phish 2.0. I think I’ve listened to this Tweezer before, but I’m not sure what else.

  10. Mr. Palmer Says:

    I have a dvd of that show ( thanks Verno) and there are about 3 times it looks like Trey is about to trip over himself…

  11. rivertrance Says:

    yeah my fault Palmer is right. goes to show I never spin this shit.

    once the tail end of set I gets going the rest of the show is straight fire

    beginning of set I was kinda rough

  12. rivertrance Says:

    Problem with 2/20 is me and K had this amazing psychedelic experience after getting back home and raising hell on the west coast leg. We were so convinced we were done with the powders and everything was great. Had a total moment of clarity.

    Got home after being on the road for a week and the first thing we found in her closet. Couple of foils. Needless to say everything we thought we learned that night on the journey got thrown out the window and the next year would be the ugliest of our lives.

    Feb 03. fun stuff.

    great fuckin show though.

  13. Phamily Berzerker Says:

    Something about JOTD has me nostalgic.

    Tone i think.

  14. butter Says:

    rap Producer Swizz Beatz is the Ceo of Megaupload? –Wow

  15. Jtran Says:

    And onto Waves > Simple > Jibboo to finish the day

  16. stapes Says:

    2/20;03 Seven Below is amazing. Probably my fave version. Deep dark Tweezer that night too.

  17. oldskool Says:


    happy to throw out some tube pre-amp recs. You have a sense of budget? Happy to discuss off-line if you prefer… I am assuming you want it to have a bypass mode for tv and movies so you can integrate with the rest of your system. Can explain in more detail if you need.

    I have been spending a lot of time with tubed headphones amps lately and really enjoying that. Went headphone based once the little one was born so I could listen to tunes at night and not be concerned about waking him up.

  18. stapes Says:

    I actually just listened to that ending triad in the gym two days ago.

  19. verno329 Says:

    I may have to dust off that vid tonight myself. Thanks everyone for the suggestion.

  20. oldskool Says:

    @ Butter, what was that SF coffee place you were talking about a few months back? I dont think it was four barrel but cannot seem to remember what it was.

  21. butter Says:

    here’s some shots and descriptions of my AV system

  22. butter Says:

    sight glass, blue bottle, Philz

  23. butter Says:

    cool, will email ya oldskool

  24. dusty Says:

    Philz is good. Sightglass and four barrel are too acidic and light for me. Some might call that complex, but miss Seattle coffee…oily and thick.

  25. guitarpicker420! Says:

    @kaya – to my ears the MK41>KC5 source was better than PS2 source, but part of the issue was certainly that the levels were much worse on PS2 source. However, in my notes, I notice less bass tone at lowest frequencies than the KC5 source.

    Thanks for checking out the site. Hope to have 12-30 up tomorrow and 12-31 up sometime this weekend.

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