Doubling Down?

12-30-2011 (Graham Lucas)

Amidst the many rumors spiraling through cyberspace regarding Phish’s 2012 touring plans, two have taken hold and seem to have some legs. Coincidentally, the two stands that seem to be materializing are located in each coast’s gambling mecca—Las Vegas and Atlantic City. Each of the rumors have been semi-corroborated by a Las Vegas newspaper reporter and Atlantic City’s mayor, giving them a bit more substance than your everyday Internet hearsay. Since both are seeming somewhat likely at this point in time, let’s take a closer look at the buzz.

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LAS VEGAS: March 30 – April 1 ??

Vegas, Baby?

Phish only played on April Fool’s Day in their early years, the last time coming in Portland, Oregon in 1993. If this strongly rumored run goes down, this would mark the first time in 19 years that the band would perform on this made-for-Phish, prankster holiday. Just yesterday, Las Vegas Sun columnist, J. Patrick Coolican tweeted, “Phish fans: Source sez negotiations for a 2/3 nite VEGAS run APRIL FOOLS DAY have taken new intensity. 80-20 likely, sez source.” This tweet aligns with what I have been hearing from multiple sources, thus a return to the Thomas and Mack Center seems like a distinct possibility.

While I am always down for Vegas Phish, the timing on this stand seems a bit quirky. Mike is playing with his solo band at Jam in the Dam in mid-March and then playing another date in London on March 18. Trey will be focused on his symphony tour until March 10th. These two factors alone, regardless of what Page and Fish are doing during, would preclude much practice time before the first show on March 30th. Could they pull it off with but a ten-day buffer? Of course. Might the run turnout straightforward and contained as a result of the time crunch? Quite Possibly. It seems like latter-day Phish benefits from practice even more so than in previous eras, as their lives are diversified more than ever. These Vegas shows would be just the 5th, 6th, and 7th,performances since Labor Day 2010, and practice would seem more necessary than usual. We shall see what develops.

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ATLANTIC CITY: June 15 – 17 ??

Atlantic City

While Phish headlining at Bonnaroo is another rumor that has been circulating with strength, this three-day Atlantic City run would represent a Phish-only “festival” at Bader Field. Atlantic City’s City Council has already approved festivals for June 15-17 and June 24-25, and the mayor alluded to the former being a “jam band” festival that is expected to attract 30,000 fans. With Starr-Hill, Coran Capshaw’s sister company of Red Light Management, slated to throw these events (the other of which, allegedly, features a “rock band”) it is but a forgone conclusion that Phish will play these dates. Further confirmation comes in the fact that that the Dave Matthews Band, who brought their Caravan tour to Bader Field last summer, will not be returning for either of these dates. Many fans have taken all of this info, put one and one together, and booked hotel rooms for this weekend.

This run could conceivably come at the end of a short run in May and June (with Bethel rumored for Memorial Day weekend) and, if so, AC would be a great place to end a tour. As I discussed last week, three-night stands were Phish’s bread and butter last year, and another trifecta in AC—like Halloween 2010—seems like a great time for all. With all hotels in close proximity to each other, the post-music part of this “festival” would take place in the casinos and hotels up and down The Boardwalk rather than in campgrounds and RVs—a different mid-summer twist. And if you poll the fan base, I think you’ll find few fans who didn’t have a blast in Atlantic City last time around, so here’s to hoping this one comes to fruition!

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Jam of the Day:

Help -> Slip -> Bag” 4.1.86 II

In honor of a possible April Fool’s Day show, here was how Phish opened up their second set of 4/1/86’s “Festival of Fools” at Hunt’s in Burlington—the classic “Help -> Slip -> Bag.”

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396 Responses to “Doubling Down?”

  1. butter Says:

    here’s some high snobiety

    why you shouldn’t buy anybody a french press

    http://gizmodo.com/5868602/why-you-shouldnt-buy-anyone-a-french-press?tag=coffee

  2. TreasureReprise Says:

    Word….off to poke around their website now. Funny to get coffee shipped to Portland 😉

  3. butter Says:

    one of my daughter’s friends said “your name should be coffee not butter”

  4. tba Says:

    All this speaker talk I think klipsch gives the best rock music bang for the buck. Is this bill gonna really have an affect. guess that’s sort of rhetorical thank god I dl’s 67 dead shows last year on DVD :<)

  5. butter Says:

    i’m headed to stumptown’s site….he he…we traded

  6. tba Says:

    ps thanks for the rumours Miner; Bethel is where i want to go again, I freakin’ love that place, although i need to find a closer hotel this time if there is another this time

  7. TreasureReprise Says:

    This our new school B & P trade haha

  8. halcyon Says:

    Not surprising that this happens the day after the SOPA and PIPA protests

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/01/19/idUS238510284120120119

  9. Foul_Domain Says:

    Hey BB.

    Whats up with no Megaupload?

    I was on a roll.

    Never been to AC. Looks like 2012 will change all that, though was hoping for a return to WG for a real festi. Last year was so sick.

    Hope everybody’s good!

  10. dusty Says:

    Wow…looks like Phil is opening Terrapin Station in the old Seafood Peddler in SR. I knew all the crap he ran into with the old safeway location in San Anselmo. Thats going to be a sweet spot, close to shakedown.

    Also didn’t realize Bobby was a player in Sweetwater’s new location. Now if Marin could just relax…haha! Anyone hitting the two nits of Kimock next weekend?

  11. Mr. Palmer Says:

    Saturday Night’s BK Bowl lineup.

    Freaks Ball XII with…:
    FREAKS BALL-STARS FT. EDDIE ROBERTS (THE NEW MASTERSOUNDS), JOE RUSSO (FURTHUR), MARCO BENEVENTO (THE DUO), RON JOHNSON (WARREN HAYNES BAND) WITH SPECIAL GUESTS WARREN HAYNES & ERIC KRASNO (SOULIVE)
    Erik Deutsch, Joe Russo (Furthur), Scott Metzger

  12. TreasureReprise Says:

    Think I’d rather catch Portugal. The Man the night before.

  13. bearito Says:

    Quick drive-by:

    Thanks to aj, aw, and all those dropping these incredible rec’s as of late. It’s been a little overwhelming honestly 🙂

    Can’t wait to engulf myself in all of this.

    @ Treasure – That band you just rec’d is playing in nola tonight

  14. TreasureReprise Says:

    They’re here in a couple of weeks, although I heard it may be sold out already.

  15. bearito Says:

    @ treas

    I’d check em out but I was invited to a grammy nomination party for Rebirth Brass Band tonight

    gotta show some love

    first brass band ever nominated for a grammy

  16. thedayman Says:

    5/17/74 – Playin – $$$. deep psychadelia.

  17. TreasureReprise Says:

    Love Rebirth, good on them! What venue in NOLA are The Alabama Shakes playing?

  18. bearito Says:

    One Eyed Jack’s

    Love that venue too

  19. TreasureReprise Says:

    Haven’t been there since it was the Shim Sham Room (Club?)…great little club.

  20. bearito Says:

    That’s right

    It’s been O E J’s for I’m guessing …7 years?

    Caught some great shows there

    It’s become a little more hip in the last few years but still sees an eclectic mix of artists come through

  21. Billy88 Says:

    @ coffee lovers

    Health warning for men, the more SILT in your coffee ( and pre ground pepper) can screw with you prostrate gland. Filtered coffee and fresh ground pepper.

    And Paradigm for sweet sound!

  22. Billy88 Says:

    @ coffee lovers

    Health warning for men, the more SILT in your coffee ( and pre ground pepper) can screw with you prostrate gland. Filtered coffee and fresh ground pepper.

    And Paradigm for sweet sound!

  23. Mdawg Says:

    mmmmm Vegas

  24. sumodie Says:

    Spinning 6.19.04 SPAC….not my first listen but…WOW

    Oddly enough I was at these shows but didn’t come away all aglow, at least not that I recall. Although I hit SPAC, Great Woods, and Coventry, all told I barely remember anything musically about either SPAC or GW (and I did all of 2.0 without accoutrements, including no bane).

    So while spinning this thoroughly sick show today I began wondering if the breakup announcement changed the way I perceived Phish that summer (I never had the tapes) -maybe I just began distancing myself from the band as a way of preparing myself for the end. Or maybe my memory sucks without accoutrements, ha.

    (meanwhile my Coventry memories are quite vivid and in depth)

    These SPAC shows sure make the 2.0 material sound terrific -too bad the band doesn’t feel the same way. Yes, 2011 was a good year for 2.0 material, but it still deserves even more love

  25. Lycanthropist Says:

    So phish joins the casino circuit.

    Maybe they will come down to the boats in Gulfport!

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