Doubling Down?

12-30-2011 (Graham Lucas)

Amidst the many rumors spiraling through cyberspace regarding Phish’s 2012 touring plans, two have taken hold and seem to have some legs. Coincidentally, the two stands that seem to be materializing are located in each coast’s gambling mecca—Las Vegas and Atlantic City. Each of the rumors have been semi-corroborated by a Las Vegas newspaper reporter and Atlantic City’s mayor, giving them a bit more substance than your everyday Internet hearsay. Since both are seeming somewhat likely at this point in time, let’s take a closer look at the buzz.


LAS VEGAS: March 30 – April 1 ??

Vegas, Baby?

Phish only played on April Fool’s Day in their early years, the last time coming in Portland, Oregon in 1993. If this strongly rumored run goes down, this would mark the first time in 19 years that the band would perform on this made-for-Phish, prankster holiday. Just yesterday, Las Vegas Sun columnist, J. Patrick Coolican tweeted, “Phish fans: Source sez negotiations for a 2/3 nite VEGAS run APRIL FOOLS DAY have taken new intensity. 80-20 likely, sez source.” This tweet aligns with what I have been hearing from multiple sources, thus a return to the Thomas and Mack Center seems like a distinct possibility.

While I am always down for Vegas Phish, the timing on this stand seems a bit quirky. Mike is playing with his solo band at Jam in the Dam in mid-March and then playing another date in London on March 18. Trey will be focused on his symphony tour until March 10th. These two factors alone, regardless of what Page and Fish are doing during, would preclude much practice time before the first show on March 30th. Could they pull it off with but a ten-day buffer? Of course. Might the run turnout straightforward and contained as a result of the time crunch? Quite Possibly. It seems like latter-day Phish benefits from practice even more so than in previous eras, as their lives are diversified more than ever. These Vegas shows would be just the 5th, 6th, and 7th,performances since Labor Day 2010, and practice would seem more necessary than usual. We shall see what develops.


ATLANTIC CITY: June 15 – 17 ??

Atlantic City

While Phish headlining at Bonnaroo is another rumor that has been circulating with strength, this three-day Atlantic City run would represent a Phish-only “festival” at Bader Field. Atlantic City’s City Council has already approved festivals for June 15-17 and June 24-25, and the mayor alluded to the former being a “jam band” festival that is expected to attract 30,000 fans. With Starr-Hill, Coran Capshaw’s sister company of Red Light Management, slated to throw these events (the other of which, allegedly, features a “rock band”) it is but a forgone conclusion that Phish will play these dates. Further confirmation comes in the fact that that the Dave Matthews Band, who brought their Caravan tour to Bader Field last summer, will not be returning for either of these dates. Many fans have taken all of this info, put one and one together, and booked hotel rooms for this weekend.

This run could conceivably come at the end of a short run in May and June (with Bethel rumored for Memorial Day weekend) and, if so, AC would be a great place to end a tour. As I discussed last week, three-night stands were Phish’s bread and butter last year, and another trifecta in AC—like Halloween 2010—seems like a great time for all. With all hotels in close proximity to each other, the post-music part of this “festival” would take place in the casinos and hotels up and down The Boardwalk rather than in campgrounds and RVs—a different mid-summer twist. And if you poll the fan base, I think you’ll find few fans who didn’t have a blast in Atlantic City last time around, so here’s to hoping this one comes to fruition!


Jam of the Day:

Help -> Slip -> Bag” 4.1.86 II

In honor of a possible April Fool’s Day show, here was how Phish opened up their second set of 4/1/86’s “Festival of Fools” at Hunt’s in Burlington—the classic “Help -> Slip -> Bag.”

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396 Responses to “Doubling Down?”

  1. Mr. Palmer Says:

    relapse tour. .. haha

  2. Type III Jamming Personality Disorder Says:

    yeah, my wife’s cousin sees Chesney every year up here at Gillette Stadium. country is big, y’all.

    Seattle flat sucks when dealing with snow. they really don’t get that much on average so when it happens it is a pure shitshow. not enough plows, people who aren’t used to the weather, hills, etc.

  3. rivertrance Says:

    that’s not right Duke

    if you do really know any one that has ever spun a Kenny Chesney record let alone attend a show time to really start reevaluating the circles you are running in their kid

  4. Guyute711 Says:

    No way Metallica can sell 55,000 multiple days unless they play Brazil. Even the old hardcore fans hate them now. Who knows though, maybe the symphony crowd digs ’em.

  5. El Duderino Says:

    just like here in NC T3

  6. El Duderino Says:

    the phans can relapse all they want.
    I want my guitar hero to stay clean thank you very much

  7. bhizzle Says:

    Metallica can do it if it’s a Big 4 event.

  8. Type III Jamming Personality Disorder Says:

    this section of the TJ takes me right back to that night

  9. Mr. Palmer Says:

    I still feel like shit from Sunday. I’m to old for an all day booze, accoutrement fueled debacle.. I knew we were in trouble when someone broke out a bag filled with NY state shaped pressies on the plane down…lol

  10. tzara's Says:

    Seattle drivers definitely not great in the snow, or on any terrain really. There’s been storms where hundreds of cars just pull over to the side and abandon their cars. Pretty silly. I love it when people from the midwest make fun of Seattle though–big difference between icy hills that haven’t been salted and endless flat plains that get plowed regularly. A couple years ago there were major roads with six inches of chunky ice. Felt like driving on huge rocks.

  11. Kaveh Says:

    I still feel like shit from Sunday.

    ^ So do I, but for other reason’s. JK…I’m all good and keeping the ship pointed forward. ONWARD.

  12. bhizzle Says:|newswell|text|Home|s

    from the local rag

  13. oldskool Says:

    @Miner, check this out…

    It would be sick if you released “The Book” as an interactive experience on the iPad!!

  14. El Duderino Says:

    sounds like a great time had by all Palmer

  15. Type III Jamming Personality Disorder Says:

    I want my guitar hero to stay clean thank you very much


  16. rivertrance Says:

    nice Palmer, haven’t seen a pressie in at least a decade. rockin it old school stylee.

  17. El Duderino Says:

    …but if Trey could keep it to quality wine, beer, coffee, and the herb I would be fine with that too.

  18. ae Says:

    holy tower jam!

  19. Spasm Waiter Says:

    AE- Cool. I don’t think I can make it but I would love to. I am Mr. Mom now. On top of it, I have to go to… wait for it, Almost Journey, the following night with the wifey. Agh…
    @AJ- LD quartet should be sweet. I love that club to. My old keyboardist form my band, the Goods, does sound there many nights a week. Silver long curley haired dude, Marty. Good chap. He introduced me to Charlie Hunter before a show there. Mellow cat. Very cool.

  20. rivertrance Says:

    I just want some dirty progressive music with some creativity to it

    could really care less about drug habits

    I just want one more tour of real Phish.

  21. Spasm Waiter Says:

    Tower is so nice right now

  22. rivertrance Says:

    we’re also using that term guitar hero pretty loosely these days

    pretty rare old Red blows any guitar players away these days

    he’s competent. but kinda just there IMO.

  23. rivertrance Says:

    NCAA says lacrosse players biggest college athlete drug users

    interesting. never known a lacrosse player. not too big here in the midwest.

  24. rivertrance Says:

    I blame my recent BAM dive for my current frustration with Phish. Hearing players that were once on the level of Fish and Trey play like they do know makes even less sense when you hear these BAM cats still shredding and swinging at ages way older than Phish. Cats in their 50’s and 60’s still just crushin it.

    Just makes me wish they gave more love to keeping their chops up to form.

    Like I’ve stated before John McGlauphlin doesn’t even seem to be missing a step and that cat could be Trey’s dad.

    Anyway that’s my problem right there.

  25. Robear Says:

    WHere’s our resident Geologist? We’ve been told that man and his drilling have no affects on plate movement or earthquakes.

    So don’t read this article:

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