Doubling Down?

12-30-2011 (Graham Lucas)

Amidst the many rumors spiraling through cyberspace regarding Phish’s 2012 touring plans, two have taken hold and seem to have some legs. Coincidentally, the two stands that seem to be materializing are located in each coast’s gambling mecca—Las Vegas and Atlantic City. Each of the rumors have been semi-corroborated by a Las Vegas newspaper reporter and Atlantic City’s mayor, giving them a bit more substance than your everyday Internet hearsay. Since both are seeming somewhat likely at this point in time, let’s take a closer look at the buzz.


LAS VEGAS: March 30 – April 1 ??

Vegas, Baby?

Phish only played on April Fool’s Day in their early years, the last time coming in Portland, Oregon in 1993. If this strongly rumored run goes down, this would mark the first time in 19 years that the band would perform on this made-for-Phish, prankster holiday. Just yesterday, Las Vegas Sun columnist, J. Patrick Coolican tweeted, “Phish fans: Source sez negotiations for a 2/3 nite VEGAS run APRIL FOOLS DAY have taken new intensity. 80-20 likely, sez source.” This tweet aligns with what I have been hearing from multiple sources, thus a return to the Thomas and Mack Center seems like a distinct possibility.

While I am always down for Vegas Phish, the timing on this stand seems a bit quirky. Mike is playing with his solo band at Jam in the Dam in mid-March and then playing another date in London on March 18. Trey will be focused on his symphony tour until March 10th. These two factors alone, regardless of what Page and Fish are doing during, would preclude much practice time before the first show on March 30th. Could they pull it off with but a ten-day buffer? Of course. Might the run turnout straightforward and contained as a result of the time crunch? Quite Possibly. It seems like latter-day Phish benefits from practice even more so than in previous eras, as their lives are diversified more than ever. These Vegas shows would be just the 5th, 6th, and 7th,performances since Labor Day 2010, and practice would seem more necessary than usual. We shall see what develops.


ATLANTIC CITY: June 15 – 17 ??

Atlantic City

While Phish headlining at Bonnaroo is another rumor that has been circulating with strength, this three-day Atlantic City run would represent a Phish-only “festival” at Bader Field. Atlantic City’s City Council has already approved festivals for June 15-17 and June 24-25, and the mayor alluded to the former being a “jam band” festival that is expected to attract 30,000 fans. With Starr-Hill, Coran Capshaw’s sister company of Red Light Management, slated to throw these events (the other of which, allegedly, features a “rock band”) it is but a forgone conclusion that Phish will play these dates. Further confirmation comes in the fact that that the Dave Matthews Band, who brought their Caravan tour to Bader Field last summer, will not be returning for either of these dates. Many fans have taken all of this info, put one and one together, and booked hotel rooms for this weekend.

This run could conceivably come at the end of a short run in May and June (with Bethel rumored for Memorial Day weekend) and, if so, AC would be a great place to end a tour. As I discussed last week, three-night stands were Phish’s bread and butter last year, and another trifecta in AC—like Halloween 2010—seems like a great time for all. With all hotels in close proximity to each other, the post-music part of this “festival” would take place in the casinos and hotels up and down The Boardwalk rather than in campgrounds and RVs—a different mid-summer twist. And if you poll the fan base, I think you’ll find few fans who didn’t have a blast in Atlantic City last time around, so here’s to hoping this one comes to fruition!


Jam of the Day:

Help -> Slip -> Bag” 4.1.86 II

In honor of a possible April Fool’s Day show, here was how Phish opened up their second set of 4/1/86’s “Festival of Fools” at Hunt’s in Burlington—the classic “Help -> Slip -> Bag.”

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396 Responses to “Doubling Down?”

  1. rivertrance Says:

    Ron Carter Uptown Conversation from 1969 is probably my fav of his though. That’s the one I’d seek out.

  2. angryjoggerz Says:

    GD, I don’t know much, but I know I like this one (found on that site again).

    Ron Carter – Uptown Conversation

    Ron Carter’s Uptown Conversation may very well be the most intriguing, challenging, and resonant statement of many he has made over the years as a leader. Originally on the Embryo imprint of Atlantic Records, Wounded Bird now reissues it with two alternate takes. As a prelude to his funkier electric efforts for CTI and the wonderful dates for Milestone Records where he emphasized the piccolo bass, these selections showcase Carter with unlikely partners in early creative improvised settings, a hint of R&B, and some of the hard-charging straight-ahead music that he is most well known for. Flute master Hubert Laws takes a prominent role on several tracks, including the title cut with its funky but not outdated style, where he works in tandem with Carter’s basslines. On “R.J.,” the short hard bop phrasings of Laws and Carter are peppy and brisk, but not clipped. The first rendering of “Little Waltz” apart from the Miles Davis repertoire to which Carter contributed is more pensive and delicate, with Laws at the helm rather than Davis’ trumpet. Carter’s trio recordings with pianist Herbie Hancock and drummer Billy Cobham are cast in a different light, as the lengthy “Half a Row” (referring to six of a twelve-tone row) is at once free, spacy, loose, and very atypical for these soon-to-be fusion pioneers. The three stay in a similar dynamic range during “Einbahnstrasse,” but move to some hard bop changes informed by the brilliant chordal vamping and extrapolating of Hancock, while “Doom” is another 3/4 waltz with chiming piano offsetting Carter’s skittering bass. There’s also a free-and-easy duet with guitarist Sam Brown, and this reissued CD also includes alternate takes of both “Doom” and “Einbahnstrasse” as bonus tracks, the latter piece omitting the dark foreboding intro. Considering the music Ron Carter played preceding and following this effort, you’d be hard-pressed to find a more diverse, intellectually stimulating, enlivened, and especially unrestricted musical statement in his long and enduring career.

    Personnel includes: Ron Carter (bass); Hubert Laws (flute); Herbie Hancock (piano); Billy Cobham, Grady Tate (drums).

    01. Uptown
    02. Ten Strings
    03. Half a Row
    04. R.J.
    05. Little Waltz
    06. Einbahnstrasse
    07. Doom
    08. Einbahnstrasse (Alternate Take)
    09. Doom (Alternate Take)

  3. rivertrance Says:

    me and AJ on the same page

    that’s the one. killer album.

  4. angryjoggerz Says:

    Haha, Rivertrance. Nice timing.

  5. Robear Says:

    Blackbyrd, the album, on Spotifried.

    Nice rec

  6. Jtran Says:

    My coworker is creating fake companies in our system for training purposes. I just got her to create a company, “north county medical” at the address of the dispensary in carlsbad, ca (our west coast office’s town). The contact at this company is “Robert Bane”.

    If you click the map link in our system it brings you right to the location of “House of Herb” in carlsbad.


  7. kayatosh Says:

    thanks for the tip, jtran.

  8. Robear Says:

    Six wanna be occupy types break into a house to squat, protesting foreclosures.

    The problem? They broke into a vacant rental house, not a foreclosure.

    good grief. we’ll never win with ignorami like this making the papers:

  9. Robear Says:

    Jtran, I can be ‘quality control’ for one of the fake companies.

    fair compensation, let’s do this

  10. verno329 Says:

    Loving these drops again today. Found a bunch of whole Marley shows on YouTube and once this one is finished I’m ready to move on to something else. This works out perfectly. Thanks AJ!

  11. Jtran Says:

    Alright got her to update it. Robert Bane is quality control. The other employee, River, is the buyer.

    Tried to have her name it “north county alternative medicine” but that name didn’t fly. Apparently she thought I changed my idea completely after I suggested that and she said no 😉

  12. Gavinsdad Says:

    Thanks gents.

    @jtran – the slf moving west too? Carlsbad also home to black box distro who own zero skateboards, mystery, fallen shoes, slave and also insight. Good company.

  13. Jtran Says:


    Ya. Early April probably. Maybe right after Vegas dates if that works out.

  14. Tom Says:

    Don’t know if I am late to the party but Phish AC fest is confirmed by the AC Press

  15. guitarpicker420! Says:

    Sorry for delay, just posted review of 12-29 sources, went with MK41>KC5 source again. However, with exception of TLM170 which was a bit boomy, and MK41>KCY source which was too bright, the sources were quite similar and quite decent. Still have problems across the board with bass tone at lowest frequencies. It must have been an issue in the room, at least in taper’s section.

  16. Robear Says:

    Is it just me or does ‘Camping in Atlantic City’ sound like an oxymoron?

  17. guitarpicker420! Says:

    Put your makeup on, fix your hair up pretty…and meet me tonight in Atlantic City.

  18. Mr.Miner Says:

    who’s kenny chesney?

  19. Jtran Says:

    Highlights through he first four shows:

    Winter 03 highlights

    2/14 – Cover of the Rolling Stone, Fee > Taste, Gin, Walls>Carini, LxL
    2/15 – Wolfman’s > Reba, Life on Mars?, Hood
    2/16 – Bowie>Catapaul>Bowie, Round Room, Piper >DWD reprise
    2/18 – Birds, Walls, Moma>LxL, YEM

    Favorites being the Gin, Piper > DWDprise and YEM

  20. Michael Kang Says:

    who’s kenny chesney?

    C’mon, man!

  21. kayatosh Says:

    GP420: Greensky bluegrass didn’t a great cover of that song last night. touching.

  22. kayatosh Says:

    ^^^^ did a great cover

  23. halcyon Says:


    Had to get that out 😉

  24. dusty Says:

    Jtran…thanks for the netflix recommendation yesterday.

  25. Mr. Palmer Says:

    I wouldn’t camp in AC under any circumstances.

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