TTFF: Grab Bag II

Denver 2011 (Charles Bridwell)

Tweezer” 7.8.03 I, Chula Vista, CA

A scorching daylight version—the fourth song of the show.

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Reba > Walk Away” 10.29.98 II, Los Angeles, CA

During the first second set of Fall ’98, Phish illustrated the musical direction the tour would take with this jam.

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Split Open and Melt” 7.12.99 I, Mansfield, MA

A funked-out first setter amidst a gorgeous sunset at Great Woods.

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Mike’s > Keyboard Cavalry” 11.21.95 II Winston-Salem, NC

In a new Miner/Trey Is My Friend joint—Phish Loops—some hidden gems have been unearthed by a series of master “chefs.” This “Mike’s Song” is one of these gems, and its last few minutes are worth the price of admission on their own. Come check out the page!

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Bathtub Gin” 9.29.00 I Las Vegas, NV

This bangin’ first set version was the highlight of Vegas’ entire two-night stand.

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Piper > Mist” Atlanta, GA 7.26.03 II

One of many outstanding “Pipers” from Summer ’03.

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Ghost” 9.8.00 I, Albany, NY

In the very first set of Fall ‘0o, the band threw down this, largely, under-the-radar jam.

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Run Like an Antelope” 5.16.94 II, Los Angeles, CA

Ever hear of this beast from The Wiltern?

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425 Responses to “TTFF: Grab Bag II”

  1. Type III Jamming Personality Disorder Says:

    Still mostly stouts, kp, but starting to switch over. Did dinner at brew city (long trail brews on special) so stouts didn’t sound appealing on a full stomach.

    A little annoyed by the cuaty treatment the bartender gave us. “We have a chalk board because we.change the taps a lot. These are what are called ‘craft beers’ so you probably won’t recognize the names.”. Thanks for assuming I know nothing, asshole. Just cost yourself some tippage.

  2. Type III Jamming Personality Disorder Says:

    *custy
    Not sure what cuaty is

  3. SillyWilly Says:

    @Not Tom

    Well, as a defender, I’m more prone to talking about action, than I am punishment. But, I’ll try my best on both accounts.

    Action:
    Large scale, I think the problem is economic and cultural in nature. Poverty is the biggest problem – and not just from a motivation standpoint. Yes, many people committ crimes because they’re starving or unable to obtain services.

    But, what I mean, is the way poverty stunts a child’s growth and development. Simple things like parents/family spending enough time with children drastically influence a child’s mental/emotional development.
    An unreal percentage of criminals have learning disabilities and mental illnesses. These often develop during childhood.

    So, I think, quite literally, the capitalism we practice would have to change before recidivism and crime in general subsisted.

    Small scale action: Spend the money needed on mental/physical health of criminals and spend the money to get them the education and training so they can support themselves financially.
    One of the effects of all this rhetoric about the country being broke is that money spent on criminal rehabilitation is cut. For example, Scott Walker in Wisconsin eliminated the third meals prisoners eat in state prisons (this is mostly symbolic of what I mean). I think it’s more of a statement than anything else. It’s also darkly, darkly funny.

    Punishment:
    I don’t know how we talk about punishment “working” or not. We all committ crimes regularly, it’s just that when you’ve been convicted and you are on supervision, you’re under a microscope. I think we all know what’s at stake. We know that if we’re texting and we hit a cross-walker, we could be found criminally liable and face prison time. (if you don’t know that you should…which is precisely what the prosecutor will say to you)
    But, many of us, good people, still text and drive.
    So, does crime deter?

    I don’t know. Maybe. Maybe not.

    I do think that we should hold sociopaths out of society. Serial Killers, rapists, power addicts, the CEO of Walmart (I’m half-joking)…Those who prove that they cannot stop offending need to be removed from society and held in safety. I think something more like a hospital than a prison is what I would want.

    I know that we have no way of knowing who is going to re-offend and when. But, the fact of the matter, is we’re already living with horrible chances.

    You’re way, way, way more likely to be killed by a drunk driver than you are to be murdered. But, as a society, we don’t demand that cars be designed to prevent a drunk driver from operating it.

    You’re also more likely to be killed by cancer-causing pollutants than you are to be murdered, but we don’t spend nearly the same amount of money preventing pollutants than we do incarcerating/prosecuting/executing murderers.

    ok, I guess I didn’t give punishment much of chance. I just think we should be careful not to confuse the difference between the legitimacy of punishment in some cases (terrible crimes) and the legitimacy of punishment for every law the legislatures say are crimes (medicaid fraud, shoplifting from target, puffing, sabotaging Weyerhauser operations in the Redwoods, trying to get full benefits for your homosexual partner)

  4. [Not Tom] Says:

    cuaty is a female who is both cute and also a hottie, two traits which typically are contradictory.

  5. SillyWilly Says:

    I tend to tip mean wait staff more.

    Money is happiness.

  6. Type III Jamming Personality Disorder Says:

    That works for me, auntie em 8)

  7. butter Says:

    @Silly – remember the judges know most of the ethical arguments your working thru in your head. they are older and this isnt a complex issue for them. your job is to break thru their calloused, repetitive, prejudiced way’s of dealing with this.

    you may be able to get your point across very subtly – by saying something to the tune of “lets give him/her a chance this time” and they will know exactly what your referring too

    the way this country feeds the prison system is sickening, and i think its great that your in a position to help. i’m sure at times it feels insurmountable, but keep on plugging for what you believe in.

  8. kenny powers Says:

    that’s lame t3! i wonder which one it was…usually in my experience they don’t explain that crap unless the customer says something clueless or asks about the chalk board…or maybe it’s that i’m always at the bah, and if you’re seated with a group to eat they give you the whole “this is our shtick” rant. huh.

    did you see the super cute waitress that looks like a younger brunette Drew Barrymore? i like her.

  9. Type III Jamming Personality Disorder Says:

    Silly,
    This was a clear case of a guy lording his cool craft beer bartender position over the lowly patrons. Place was busy enough that the lecture was unnecessary unless he wanted to hear himself talk.

    @kp
    We were at the bar so I didn’t see the waitresses. Cute, friendly hostess though!

  10. [Not Tom] Says:

    @ KP – where are your getto fab remasteres located now that MU is no more? I’d like to get your Shapiro Bonaroo edit – is it on etree?

  11. SillyWilly Says:

    Thanks, butter

    “your job is to break thru their calloused, repetitive, prejudiced way’s of dealing with this.”

    I love this and it is very true and something I wasn’t thinking about. Maybe in this way my youth can be an advantage. My lack of jadedness might be a way to stir something in a judge.

    @Robear

    Stats are money. We’ve got some great sentencing resources online that I can look through to find some solid numbers.

  12. SillyWilly Says:

    I was totally kidding, TypeIII.

    I don’t like pretentious waiters either.

    When I read your earlier post, my “money is happiness” post just popped into my head

    and I thought it was sarcastically funny enough on several angles to post it

  13. Type III Jamming Personality Disorder Says:

    I smelled what you were cooking, silly. Dude just annoyed me enough to want to elucidate further.

  14. MiA Says:

    Agree 100% with Butter.

    Just for humor though, I wish more judges were like Judge Smails.

    It’s easy to grin
    When your ship comes in
    And you have the stock market beat…

    But the man worthwhile
    Is the man who can smile
    When his shorts are too tight in the seat.

    I think most judges are probably good judges of character . There are some who are bad characters, and some people are good characters.

    I would hope that I’ve done things in life that show I am a good character that has done bad things accidentally, not a bad person who has done bad things purposefully.

    Screw the bad people who do bad things purposefully, regardless of income or background.

  15. dorn76 Says:

    Pookie, you do the honors!

  16. MiA Says:

    Mia liked Dorn76’s comment

  17. dorn76 Says:

    For me it comes back to the basic unfairness of using statistics to predict the behavior of a single person. Respect for the rights of the individual is built into the foundation of our system.

    “Better that 10 guilty people go free than let 1 innocent suffer” kind of thing…Why can’t this particular client be the 1 of 10 who won’t reoffend?

  18. garretc Says:

    Silly, we actually read an interesting article in my Law & Econ class from Pew about how incarceration negatively effects future economic prospects, and, of course, impoverished individuals are much more likely to commit crimes, so by imprisoning them you’re perhaps making them more likely to re-offend. I can shoot you that article if you want.

    Plus in our textbook it was mentioned (I’m not sure if empirically or theoretically) that people have a tendency to both downplay how positive or negative past experiences were and to mentally discount the length of those good or bad experiences were, so past incarceration is not always an effective deterrent against future offenses. I can try and find that passage for you, maybe pass along the citation. If’n ya want it, of course

  19. sumodie Says:

    PTBM requests submitted!

    It’s the Dick’s vs. the Bills…

  20. Guyute711 Says:

    I guess it’s the Dick’s then, the Bills always lose.

  21. SillyWilly Says:

    Always interested in stuff like that, garretc

    so, yeah! hit me up

  22. sumodie Says:

    Stats indicate that you don’t wanna go up for parole after lunch when the judges are tired/sleepy

    Morning is where it’s at if you wanna get paroled…

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    Rodney King on NPR today….almost 20 years ago when LA went up in smoke, 4.29.92

  23. [Not Tom] Says:

    “I’ve sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn’t want to do it; felt I OWED it to them.”

  24. MiA Says:

    This is good stuff. I got it from a Negro. You’re probably high already and you don’t even know it

  25. MiA Says:

    Lemonwheel Gumbo for third spin again. Infectious.

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