The Jam of Summer

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Phish – 9/1/12 “Light”

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1,167 Responses to “The Jam of Summer”

  1. kayatosh Says:

    If you’re spinning Phish tunes randomly from your FLAC player and not looking at the display, then context (where and when) should have no bearing on your enjoyment. i don’t understand the comment that tunes are boring w/o knowing context.

    I often times get up to go look at the player and see the date of the tune, but that’s more for reference not enjoyment.

    For example, if i’m digging a jam, i’m not inclined to like it more or less upon discovering that it was from a particular date or year. It’s more of a sidebar.

  2. DaNcInG fOoL Says:

    agreed kaya

  3. Mr. Palmer Says:

    Songs are infinitely more interesting to me when I know the context behind them. Why Neil Young wrote Tonights the Night or On the Beach.

    The fact that Phish ate fistfuls of shrooms before the Fukuoka shows.

    Maybe it’s just me. I’m alright with that. When i hear a phish jam on shuffle I want to know where its from, ie context. What year, what venue, etc…

    Boring wasn’t the right wording. Context makes it more interesting.

  4. Bwana Says:

    nice MiA, I was at all of those references: RR’96, Dayton’97, and Went. as well as Lincoln NE 95 Lifeboy, MSG 95 Forbins, Omaha 96 Vib of Life, Raleigh 98 Forbins, Dark Side 98, Vegas 00 Forbins, Hartford 09 Icculus…

    these moments are not the same on playback — they add significant context to my relationship with this band regardless of the jam quality. this might have something to do with my perspective…

    not surprised my tape is mislabeled 4-29-87 not 4-27: http://phish.net/setlists/?d=1987-04-29&highlight=510

  5. dorn76 Says:

    Primanti Bros makes a mighty civilized samich.

    Nice chin stroking discussion re:ranking, context, art, etc, too.

  6. kayatosh Says:

    Palmer: i agree to a degree. I’m always curious to know the date or venue of a jam i’m listening to, and the stories (i.e., fukoka shrooms) adds to the interest factor, but i’m not sure context affects my enjoyment of the jam. again context is a sidebar.

  7. kayatosh Says:

    that should be e.g. not i.e. crap.

  8. renaissance79 Says:

    Chewing on some of this ranking talk and have some thoughts to offer. I agree that only “time” will tell and that sometimes our experiences and our perception of them can change and evolve. This natural course of progression doesn’t discount our discredit our earlier thoughts in any way. Keeping track of all the great jams and lovingly dissecting them over the past few years has been great fun…but as we all know and now feel Phish is beginning to “re-write the fucking book!!!” I too pamp that Woosta Hood…loved it from the moment IT happened. The plinko in it is tits…beautiful, fresh and new all at the same time. Over time though, for me anyway, it’s not the musicianship or the inventiveness of the jam that has the lasting/staying power. To me it felt more like a turning point…and point that exclaimed there are new creative avenues on the horizon…improved communication etc. It was more about the future possibilities that it embodied rather the actual Hood itself. Now, as we relish in the afterglow of tour we find ourselves beginning the evolution of our experience. Not to diminish the importance of Dicks Light in any way….but it in a year from now, we’ll be looking back, pampin’ it just as hard but out of respect for the floodgates of creativity that it opened ushering in one of the greatest years in Phistory (a much grander title IMO)

    That is all

  9. kayatosh Says:

    analogy:

    When you drink a beer w/o knowing what it is, do you like it more or less after you learn it was brewed in CA by a one-armed brew master who came up with the recipe while watching a deer birth?

  10. dorn76 Says:

    I’d add Jazz Fest ’96 to that list of moments that for me have huge significance for how I appreciate the band. The double tweezer reprise in Hartford 2 years also comes to mind.

    What is it about Phish getting weird in HFD?

    Disclosure: CT native, NOLA favorite spot in World. Context!

  11. dorn76 Says:

    Moments that have no business in the jam quality discussion, that is.

  12. Chonz Says:

    Exactly Palmer.

    I love listening to music in context…listening to an entire tour to see the evolution of songs and bands. I am currently studying 1970 GD by listening to it in it entirety on the archive, including every shitty audience tape, in order. I feel it gives me a greater appreciation of things I was not personally able to experience to know as much about what was the continuum it exists in. Knowing that Jimi Hendrix passed away the night before Jerry rips a 30 minute Caution -> Feedback -> Bid You Goodnight definitely adds to my listening experience.

  13. Bwana Says:

    sure @kaya a good analogy for anyone listening to a jam from a show they weren’t at…

    but how would you enjoy that same beer if you were served by the one-armed brew master after touring his brewery vs. drinking that same beer at your house from a friend that brought it over to you…

    if you thought it was good on its own, would it be that much better in context?

  14. MiA Says:

    There are certain moments that are etched in my mind forever due to context.

    Playing “After Midnight” during 12/31 Set II. Place exploded. Everyone singing along. It was like “Yeah, this is happening!” Huge huge smiles across the field when it happened.

    Not sure that energy can be captured on tape, but I relive it every time I hear it regardless.

    Thinking of all the great ones. Sun hitting the edge of the Gorge during Divided Sky in ’99 and the “big pause” for the whole time, until the sun was completely gone, then … “ting”

    Love that stuff. What a band.

  15. kayatosh Says:

    The state of origin and trivia about the brewmaster may add to the overall experience of the beer, but they have no bearing on the pure taste experience.

    Our taste buds register what they register; our ears register what they register. This should not change once we learn the context, e.g., jimmi died the night before the show, the chef’s daughter won a gold medal in horseback riding, the painter was crazy, the brewmaster has an 8 inch dong etc.

  16. renaissance79 Says:

    Full band confidence is back…brink on more risk taking boys!!! They were very reluctant to “settle in” at Dicks…can hear them purposefully pushing to avoid settling in and cover more ground rather than patting themselves on the back for having clicked

  17. MiA Says:

    Er … set I at BC.

  18. Gavinsdad Says:

    Soul side note: aloe blacc. The album was ok. Very clean. Lacked that “something”. Saw him on Jools Holland and was taken by his live presence. Anyone seen him? His band was tight and he gave a serious performance…all the right moves…temptations>Otis redding Stylee.

  19. kayatosh Says:

    of course, bwana, context adds to the experience. i’m just trying to distinguish between incorporating context into the assessment and pure taste/listening/appreciation.

  20. Bwana Says:

    another great example Chonz… that’s awesome

  21. voopa Says:

    I love following the evolution of songs or jams over a tour like Chonz said, especially as it’s happening. But it’s not integral my enjoyment. Knowing what was going on can help when listening to a unique jam or version of a song, but sometimes it’s just as interesting to throw on something blindly and be surprised…of course that usually leads me to looking up the date and checking reviews, but not always.

  22. kayatosh Says:

    brink IT on.

  23. MiA Says:

    I remember when LUOLMA was played at BC. Place went bonkers. Such good memories of that weekend. Esp. when they played Crosseyed and that huge SOAM.

    I think if I had a SBD of those shows, there is “My favorite Phish Jam” in the middle of it somewhere in tehre.

  24. renaissance79 Says:

    “This should not change once we learn the context”

    ^ but alas, we are human and in most cases it does. you can try and block out the additional trivia added to the experience…but once you know it can you ever see it the same again?

  25. voopa Says:

    gdad- I saw him on some festival broadcast on Palladia a while back and agree. Great presence, but a bit too polished for my tastes.

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