Miner’s Mailbag II

8.17.12 – Bill Graham (Graham Lucas)


@heyscottyb: If you could pick one song that #phish has never jammed out, for them to explore which one would it be?

Great question and easy answer—“Bouncin’ Around the Room.” With all the shows Phish has played in their career, it is unfathomable to me that they have never jammed out “Bouncin.” The song has all the ingredients of a great jam—percussive layers, a perfect tempo, and a beautifully melodic foundation. Influenced by the syncopated style of Senegelese bands, I’ve always thought Phish could transform this song into an awesome piece of improv. Why they haven’t I’ll never know.

There are some other head scratchers in the modern catalog as well. First and foremost, “Stealing Time.” A song that has been played ad infinitum in this era, the band has only flirted with a jam once—in Portsmouth last summer. When this song debuted at Jones Beach in 2009, I was sure it would be a new school jam vehicle, but instead it has turned into the “Character Zero” of 3.0—an innocuous, guitar heavy set closer. Talk about wasted potential. Additionally, I’d really like to see Phish jam on “Halfway to the Moon,” “20 Years Later,” and “Steam.” Each of these three songs have a distinct sound and style that begs for exploration. But as of yet….no go.


@roofan2009: I’m looking for a good group of scorching “Suzy Greenbergs.” If you had an all-time-top-five Suzys, which ones?

11.13.96 Target Center Minneapolis, MN, 9.14.00 Darien Lake, 12.28.03 AA Arena, Miami, FL, 10.31.09 Festival 8, Indio, CA, CA, Any Summer ’91 version with Giant Country Horns


@rw_forb: Can you share how you take set notes in real time so you can then write a show recap? Maybe a pic of your set book? Thanks

I have never in my life held a writing implement or piece of paper in my hand when Phish is playing. Everyone has their own way of enjoying Phish shows, and I dance. The thought of trying to process anything intellectually or analytically during a show is foreign to me. Phish is a purely in the moment experience for me; I don’t try to breakdown anything about a show as it’s happening, aside from exchanging looks of awe when massive jams end. I feel that taking notes would be totally counterproductive to the spiritual nature of my experience. In fact, I rarely open my eyes at shows, because any visual stimuli takes away from the music for me. The reasons I go to Phish are to be inspired and to transcend my own humanity; pencils and paper don’t help these goals at all.

Writing a recap of the show is a totally separate experience for me that comes after talking with friends, thinking back over what went down, and—usually—listening to the significant jams once through. I won’t remember to get milk at the store, but I’ll remember what lick Trey started a jam with. Odd, but true.


‏@MJVITIELLO: Why no new material lately? They tried some new ones in 2010 & 2011, but it didn’t stick. Even “Steam” was rare.

The reason I think there has been no new material recently is that the guys don’t spend time together off tour. They haven’t been in a studio together since they recorded Joy before their return, hence they have had no opportunity to engage in the creative process together. Between families and side projects, I guess there hasn’t been a desire to write new music for Phish. Most of the new songs we’ve heard this era that aren’t from Joy have been solo efforts that have crossed over to Phish, with “Steam” being the only real exception. Why “Steam” hasn’t entered the rotation by now is beyond me. It was once rumored that this fall might bring a new studio effort from the band, but as of now, I’m not sure that is even still planned.


 @WolfmansUncle: Which song would you like to see them turn into their next 3.0 jam vehicle? #fireaway #WheresmydarkOcelot?

If I had my druthers, it would be a completely new song. I thought “Ocelot” and “Stealing Time” had potential, but the band had other ideas. If I had to pick a song that could jump into rotation and be a heavy-hitter with some improvisational attention, it would be Page’s “Halfway to the Moon.” Or “Mike’s Song.”


‏@AceMcCready68: What are your top 5 MSG jams of all time?

In chronological order: “Harry Hood” 12.30.95, “Mike’s Song” 12.31.95, “Tube” 12.29.97, “AC/DC Bag” 12.30.97, “Carini > Wolfman’s” 12.28.98


Jam of the Day:

Boogie On” 9.18.99 II, Chula Vista, CA

I haven’t heard this beast in a minute.




871 Responses to “Miner’s Mailbag II”

  1. Gavinsdad Says:

    Bedtime for bonzo @lycan

    Congrats to the wife @irie

    Sorry for hoggin up the board. Freestylin.

  2. BingosBrother Says:

    Yeah, mmhm, I think Mike sat in w/ the bluegrass band at AV. They’re a Chi band called Sexfist and they’re pretty friggin good.

  3. xpun Says:

    sexfist. wouldnt peg them for bluegrass just reading the name.

    trivia night at local bar we played against team called fists a verb

    up the same alley there

  4. PigSong Says:

    I think Mike and AJ could be really good friends.

    Haven’t met either of you, just a hunch.

  5. thedayman Says:

    agreed MiA. gates needs to step it up.

  6. MiA Says:

    Saints refs are horrible. Complete bullshit.

  7. thedayman Says:

    that call on gates was bullshit. wtf. needed that.

  8. mmmhmm Says:

    Any BBers have suggestions for good rar converter programs? Something that I can maybe drag and drop .rar files in to convert to play?

  9. angryjoggerz Says:

    Pigsong, I would say we already are. MiA is a great guy and I have been lucky enough to hang with him in at least 5 states.

  10. MiA Says:

    AJ is one if my fav BB’ers to hang with for sure.

    AJ is also surreal. He could hold his own with Cactus.

    The lot at Star Lake (and at the hotel) was hilarious. Great memories.

  11. voopa Says:

    Mike has clammed a few for sure, which is kind of relieving actually.

  12. sumodie Says:


  13. voopa Says:

    mmm…rar is like zip…use 7zip or similar to uncompress, then you should have playable files.

  14. mmmhmm Says:

    Voop can I use 7zip on iOS?

  15. PigSong Says:

    hmm, I meant you and Gordeaux @Joggz. Although I’m sure you and the other M are swell friends, I enjoy both of your online personas.

    Which reminds me of something I was thinking about off the board the other day. It’s really hard to not type Mike, when referencing MiA. I think I got called out for not using the new handle once. Sorry, old habits and all..

  16. MiA Says:


  17. MiA Says:

    PigSong, I think AJ knew that but was being “dry” like Cactus.

  18. TheLongCon Says:

    Pigsong, some of us do prefer an air of mystery here in the BB.

  19. voopa Says:

    Misread your post mmmhmm. What MiA said.

  20. MiA Says:

    Well played LongCon.

  21. Jerseyjim Says:

    At Brother Jimmy’s. enjoy the show, all.

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