Miner’s Mailbag IV

12.30.2011 – MSG (Joe Iudice)


 ‏@alexriejohnson: Outstanding bass moments from Mike over the years. Unique and original notes/versions

Some of my favorite Mike moments from memory are:

“Tweezer” 7.25.98, Austin, TX: This “Tweezer” contains filthy, Summer ’98 grooves all over the place. Check out the final snippet of the jam in which Mike plays an infectious outro lick before the band fades into “Circus;” my friends and I have always hailed this bass line as one of his best.

“YEM” 7.19.98, Shoreline: This is the first “YEM” in which Mike infused the bass line of Trey’s “The Way I Feel” into the jam. At first, we called it the Shoreline “YEM” bassline, but over the course of the summer and the rest of the ‘90s, it became a de facto part of the song.

“Tweezer” 12.16.99, Raleigh: In this quintessential ’99 jam, Trey doesn’t play leads for the beginning section and Mike takes the opportunity to rip shit up. Amidst layers of sonic wizardry the entire band builds the intro into a mini peak out of which Gordon just goes ballistic. There’s no mistaking the part I am referencing when you hear this jam.

“Tweezer” 6.24.2000, Atlanta: In one of my upper echelon versions of all time, Mike sets the groove plate with a series of the danciest bass lines you’ll ever hear. As the jam starts, Trey hangs back, setting loops and effects, while Mike takes the helm and absolutely owns the intro to this excursion. This is one of my favorite segments of Mike’s playing in memory.

“Tweezer” 7.9.98, Barcelona: Though this version carries an insane whole-band groove throughout, Mike gets straight silly up in this piece from start to finish.

“Piper” 9.11.00, Great Woods: This is a hugely underrated “Piper” in which the band travels far off course into incredibly original territory. Late in the jam, Mike takes the helm, directing the slowed down tempo with an heavy bass pattern that is way out front of the music; definitely one of my favorite Gordeaux moments.

“Ghost” 5.22.00, Radio City — Mike Gordon at his finest exploring the hypercomplexities of groove.


@PhishyMossman: Thoughts on Trey tour? (if you’ve heard any of the shows)

I’ve listened to four of the shows, and while I certainly feel the band has picked up some steam from beginning of the tour, I don’t feel there is much going on musically this tour. The same-sounding snippets of improv are being played in the exact same spots as usual—“Sand,” “Jibboo,” “Money, Love and Change,” “Simple Twist Up Dave” and a couple others. The shows of this tour sound much more like a pop concert than any previous run of TAB shows. I, personally, am a huge fan of Traveler as an album, but the infusion of these songs into TAB shows has done nothing to enhance the live experience, as they have been played more or less straight up. “Plasma” from Chicago is the most original jam I’ve heard thus far, though I haven’t spun the last couple shows. Trey has such a huge solo catalog that it’s a shame he is playing the same songs every night. I certainly have no complaints about the musicianship or tightness of the band, but when I go to a Trey-based event, I am looking for a bit more fireworks than he has displayed on a nightly basis. While I am sure these shows are quite fun to be at, I couldn’t care less that I’m not hitting any of them. As long as TAB provides an outlet for Trey to be happy, I’m all for it, but his modern side project is a far cry from what it used to be in both in the power-trio (w/ horns) and the big-band days—just a bunch of songs. In fact, his comeback tour in 2008 provided more high octane music than these largely sterile affairs.


@Jacobid: If a friend who has never heard a Phish song asks you to hear some of their music, which song do you put on first?

Always a great question, but it kind of depends on who the friend is and what musical background they are coming from. Honestly, I feel you could play “Harry Hood” for anyone from a twelve year old to a non-musical parent to a professional musician and the sheer emotion of the music would affect them. That would be my choice if I had someone that could commit 15 minutes to listening. If they are coming from a dance background, perhaps a “Sand” or “Tweezer;” a pop background, perhaps “Heavy Things” or “Bouncin,”  a more psychedelic background, perhaps a “Split” or “Piper.” It’s all relative. The first song that caught me ear as a non-Phish fan was “Lizards,” so go figure.


@PleasingTweezer: Do you (I do) tend to listen to 3.0 Phish more? Been following/seeing/listening since 93/94, but “old” Phish is what it was.

Yes, 100%. I really only ever listen to the last tour that has ended. This has been the way I have listened to Phish for so long that by the next time a tour ends, I really have no need to consistently listen to stuff form the previous one. Of course the most monumental jams will find their way into rotation, but for the most part, I only listen to the stuff that just happened. It is very rare that I would put in something from the ‘90s at this point just because I have heard it so much in my life it’s no longer that engaging or meaningful. In post show situations or times when I am straight chillin’ with friends, some of the older stuff comes out, but even then, I am far more prone to listen to recent Phish. It just feels more relevant to the here and now.


 @Runaway_Tim: “Dr. Gabel” dead and gone? On new album along with “Steam?”

It better be dead and gone! That is, literally, the worst Phish song I’ve ever heard in my life! (I am a huge “Jennifer Dances” fan—for real.) I actually heard something about the band starting from scratch for their new album, so hopefully we will wind up with all new music (plus a fourth studio version of “Let Me Lie.”)


@jonnyonthespots: How about you rank the Halloween album sets?

This is PURELY based on personal preference:

1)  Remain In Light — unparalleled and forever changed the course of Phish music

2)  Loaded – completely nailed from start to finish. Just glorious.

3)  Waiting For Columbus — a perfect style for Phish; a genuine ‘70s dance party through and through.

4)  Exile on Main Street – the band illustrated a level of soul they had never displayed before; they coouldn’t have pulled this off in their younger days

5)  Quadrophenia — a fantastic performance of a fantastic album; an consistently underrated performance with some true gems

6)  The White Album — a nice, long set of Beatles covers. Nothing more, nothing less.


 Mimi Fishman Foundation Launches New On-Line Charity Auction

The Mimi Fishman Foundation has launched a new on-line charity auction that features several New Years Eve ticket/poster packages as well as Phish memorabilia featuring a very rare kick drum head that was used by Phish in the 90’s and has been signed by the band.  The auction also includes a large number of Phish 2012 Summer Tour posters signed by the band and a very unique memorabilia package from the 2011 New Years run.  Umphrey’s McGee and the String Cheese Incident have kindly contributed New Years Eve ticket/poster packages as well.

The on-line auction is currently live with the bidding coming to close November 14.

To view and/or bid on the auction, as well as read about the charities the auction supports, please visit the Mimi Fishman Foundation Auction Page.

The Foundation also announces 2012 3rd Quarter Grants:

$10,000 – Delta Gamma Center for Children with Visual Impairments

$1,000 – Helping Hounds

$1,000 – Borinquen Defensores de Animales del Sur (BDAS)

$1,000 – Jordan-Elbridge Central School

$500 – Front Range Hippotheorapy


513 Responses to “Miner’s Mailbag IV”

  1. Bad Nirvana Cover Band Says:

    checking this Kendrick Lamar……mini-van on the album cover, +2

  2. mr. palmer Says:

    The new Lamar’s album cover is him as a toddler sitting around a table with his uncles. baby bottles and 40s on the table.

    Got to go to my daughter’s soccer game this morning since it was an early start. Got to see her score her first goal in 2 years of playing. Priceless look of happiness on her face…..and mine, I’m sure.

    This story in NYC about the nanny who killed these two kids is the most heartbreaking thing I’ve seen. Having 3 kids the same age ,the horror really hits home. Life is precious.

  3. roberto luongo Says:

    there are 2 covers.

    the mini van and the baby bottle 40 oz.

    through the whole album is mom is constantly pissed she wants her van back. shit cracks me up.

    call me cheezy but I still think that’s a great album.

  4. Bad Nirvana Cover Band Says:

    get your phone RL

  5. roberto luongo Says:

    this track starts with a skit of his dad yelling at his mom to shut the fuck up cuz he’s got a good buzz on he’s jamming some tunes and she’s killin his vibe

    dig this track


  6. voopa Says:

    Pig, I’ve been on that torrent sporadically since Tuesday night.

    Have had some BSOD issues that have brought down the PC like 4 times since, but I think I finally figured that out so my connection should be more stable now. However, I’m only at 85% complete. The lone seeder seems to have disappeared for now, but I am 100% on the 5-11 SBD. I’ll solicit for a seeder, we’ll see what happens.

  7. roberto luongo Says:

    I’m blasting Scratch at soundsystem levels stoney

    hard to hear.

  8. jp Says:

    props to Miner for pulling the 9.11.00 piper out of the ether

    is there a sbd version out there anywhere??

    super excited to (hopefully) get my hands on the 7.21.99 simple > my left tow special release with the new dvd. bummer the whole set 2 is not on there but obv this is the peak – thank you mr shapiro!

  9. alf Says:

    it was an irie melody https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbWGGMp0zJM

    thx voopa! re: 99 torrent

  10. mr. palmer Says:

    Oh My…Don’t watch replays of the kid from South Carolina’s injury. One of the worst you will see.

  11. angryjoggerz Says:

    This is a really interesting mix and good for a lazy autumn afternoon.



    About the mix:

    “Back in february, i was asked to create a dj set for an event called Les Siestes Electroniques. I was granted full access, during 4 months, to the whole Quai Branly’s (http://www.quaibranly.fr/en/) catalogue, full of tens of thousands of amazing traditional music cds from every country in the world.

    I crafted this weird and mental mix, with bits from Mongolia, Indonesia, Ethiopia, Bulgaria, Argentina, Japan, Iran, Korea, Israel, etc.
    Hope y’all like it.

    And go to this museum when you’re in paris, it’s nice and big.”

  12. phlorida phan Says:

    Damn, pour kid just got McGahee’d, there went that top 10 draft pickup

  13. marcoesq Says:

    9.11.00 Piper is so phenomenal, been asking Shapiro to release it on SBD but none exist. That whole second set is just filthy.

    TAB Wednesday was fun. Lot more percussive which I enjoy.

  14. halcyon Says:

    Definitely have a beard GDad 🙂

    Looking forward to tonight’s show. Unable to catch many shows these days, not enough time in the day, and not enough $ in the wallet!

  15. SillyWilly Says:

    was that Lattimore?

  16. phlorida phan Says:

    Only pussies tackle like that, especially coming from the side abd not a head on tackle

  17. phlorida phan Says:

    Yes Silly

  18. bobby weird Says:

    @joe, yes Scholars is across from the old Borders. School St i believe.

    unfortunately i can’t go tonight; am joining new firm on mon and moving my office today and tomm. enjoy dudes.

  19. jp Says:

    campaign 2013: please please please more sbd 99 from LP

  20. SillyWilly Says:

    I like watching Lattimore play.

    I don’t like Spurrier, though.

    Bob Griese was better.

    and I hold no love for Purdue.

  21. SillyWilly Says:

    good luck, bobby weird!

    i can barely contain my office as it is, I couldn’t imagine moving all that shit.

  22. phlorida phan Says:

    Im sure his whole knee is blown up, had that weird flop to it after he hit the ground. Not pretty

  23. bobby weird Says:

    thanks silly! yeah, 5 years in one place, its a disaster!

  24. PigSong Says:

    Thanks voop, there is one seeder that I haven’t hooked up with yet. Giving it time.

  25. SillyWilly Says:

    It’s amazing what surgeons can do these days.

    Hopefully, he can get it ready for the draft…or at least for a fighting chance to play the NFL season.

    i’m sure he’ll still get paid by someone. he’s good.

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