Miner’s Mailbag V

6.25.10 Camden, NJ (Graham Lucas)


@EdCochran18: Can you address the cultures of different venues?

This is one of the weirdest factors of going on tour—by far. Because you are (usually) in a different state every night, the first thing that comes into play are state laws. Last summer, for example, when tour jumped from California into the south and then back to Colorado, the culture was like day and night. Weed and other drugs are seen so differently from state to state in the US, its hard to believe we are still in the same country sometimes, (see OKC.) Thus the first thing to verse yourself on is the laws of where you are and how seriously they have it out for hippies. But then the venues, themselves, can be extremely laid back or tight. For example, at Bill Graham Civic the ushers patrolled to make sure you were smoking weed and not cigarettes (this is a fact), while at Merriweather, there are teen-aged girls, backed by an urban security SWAT team, making sure your feet don’t cross painted lines on the aisles in the pavilion, less they kick you onto the lawn (also a fact.) Sometimes security takes themselves way to seriously (Jones Beach) while others they encourage you to have fun (Hampton.) It’s pretty crazy to bounce from venue to venue and have to adjust to a new set of norms on a nightly basis when all you’re trying to do is dance and feel good, but—alas—that’s why Jedi training is a huge asset on Phish tour.

Chillest Venues: The Gorge, Hampton, Dick’s 

Tightest Venues: Merriweather Post, Jones Beach, Virginia Beach


@Teddier: Five years into the future-what are Phish doing to keep their interest fresh and will their music change much by then?

Five years! Wow. Phish has only played four years in this era and we are jumping five more ahead. I’ll be completely honest and say that Phish 2017 may or may not exist. While I certainly hope so, five more years is a long time for these guys to keep going. For some reason, I don’t see Phish following the Grateful Dead model of play until you drop. I suppose nothing stands in their way of playing five years and beyond except a desire to move on. If they are still playing in five years, I sure hope the band has a couple more albums under their belt and we are hearing a hell of a lot of new material! Improvisationally, however, the sky is the limit. As long as these four guys are committed to each other, I am confident they will crank out high quality jams. Any stylistic conjecture would be sheer speculation of which I wouldn’t even know where to start. If Phish has one thing going for them, their fans will never lose interest no matter what they do. Tour wise, let me take a wild guess—maybe summer tour and a new years run?


@Matthewgerber79: Do you ever see Mikes Song or YEM ever returning to their former improv glory, or has that ship sailed along with Halley’s?

Interestingly, all it takes is Trey’s will and either of these songs can snap back into form on any given night. But for whatever reason, I don’t see it happening. “YEM” doesn’t feel like as huge of a loss as “Mike’s,” which has gone from a top three jam vehicle for the second half of the ‘90s to a recycled guitar build. But at least “Mike’s” is over in eight minutes these days, while “YEM” still has nearly ten minutes of composition and five minutes of a vocal jam, leaving the song with negligible payoff on any given night. Everyone has been focusing on the rarity of “YEM” over the past two years as if it’s a bad thing, but if the band is only gonna step into four minutes of generic funk, my preference is to leave it on the shelf. There’s no need to kill so much of a set with the theatrics that are “YEM.” It’s unquestionably one of Phish’s greatest songs, but they’ve played it so much over their career, it seems like they no longer know how to make it interesting.

 @henryilnicky: top 5 bliss, groove, shred, space/weird jams #nextaskminer

Here are some personal favorites in no particular order and without racking my brain:


“My Left Toe” 7.21.99, Star Lake

“Reba” 7.6.94, Montreal

“Harry Hood” 12.28.10, Worcester

“Bathtub Gin” 8.17.97, Great Went

“Bathtub Gin” 9.12.99, Portland Meadows


“Sand > Quadraphonic Toppling” 12.31.99, Big Cypress

“Ghost” 5.22.00, Radio City

“Bathtub Gin” 7.29.98, Riverport

“Roses Are Free” 4.3.98, Nassau

“Mike’s Song” 12.31.95, MSG


“Tweezer” 12.2.95, New Haven, CT

“Piper” 7.18.99, Oswego

“Antelope” 10.24.95, Madison, WI

“Drowned > Rock and Roll” 6.29.2000, PNC

“Antelope” 12.9.94, La Mesa, AZ


“Drowned” 9.14.00, Darien Lake

“Wolfman’s Brother” 10.31.98, Vegas

“David Bowie” 12.29.94, Providence

“Disease > Free” 6.26.95, SPAC

“Reba > Walk Away” 10.29.98, Los Angeles

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369 Responses to “Miner’s Mailbag V”

  1. MiA Says:

    RMCH Ghost is like the Gin baseline, but maybe more like it’s on Diualdid.

  2. SillyWilly Says:

    No, Alf.

    That’s too generous.

    I’m just selfish, and think that people want to hear what I have to say.

  3. roberto luongo Says:

    loved being asked what I was smoking at BGCA like it was a quality test or something. some dude comes up tome and politely asks what I’m smoking.

    “OG Kush” a bit of “Sour Diesel”

    OK your good. proceed.

  4. Type III Jamming Personality Disorder Says:

    for you, g711

  5. MiA Says:

    I’ve told so many people RL’s story. Great stuff.

    Danny do take drugs?
    Good, so what’s the problem?


  6. roberto luongo Says:

    I got a sick ass Jason Lee piece taken away at Gorge 97

    my dumb ass thought all west coast venues were chill and those entrance way security guards were fuckin brutal. learned that shit the hard way.

    I’m cool with the dicks on outside chill on inside these days. no one gonna catch me.

    cat at UIC was trying so hard to find my 7 spliffs cuz I reeked so bad. pretty much told him yes I have them but no way you are gonna find em without buying me dinner first.

    he gave up after a few minutes of getting fresh. 45 yr old black dude wants my nugs but doesn’t want to grab my nuts much.

  7. Guyute711 Says:

    Lt Dangle is easily the best one.
    Hey, my team won this week and it’s only Friday. Yipee!!!
    Now I need the Darien Lake Demons to finish strong.

  8. xpun Says:


  9. xpun Says:

    demons are killing it. mia and i are battling for the basement this weekend

  10. IrieWalton Says:

    Just got some tangerine from the hills down south.
    Love this time of year hoops and harvest.
    Also the Blazers’ new pg, Damian Lillard is gonna be special.
    Insane skills that made Kobe and Nash look like fools on Wednesday night.

  11. roberto luongo Says:

    Coronation Day yo! Thanks and Praises.


  12. sumodie Says:

    Most venues seem chiller than 1.0 & 2.0

    Dunno if that’s cause they need $$$ or just society has chilled out on herbage

  13. MiA Says:

    xpun is going to be my bottom.

    Riverstache is hilarious.

  14. sumodie Says:

    Guyute, rage it with CRB!!

    May have to catch them next week up here

  15. MiA Says:

    Actually, my FF teams sucks so bad, I probably won’t put in 50% of the points he has. I’ll probably post 30 this weekend. And Cam Newton is gonna kill it over my Smokin’ Jay Cutler.

  16. Guyute711 Says:

    Oh I plan to sumo. Pretty excited. Jimmy Herring and Victor Wooten tomorrow. Back to grinding after that for a while. $250 flights to Denver from Raleigh labor day weekend. Gonna be booking that shit up soon.

  17. Kaveh Says:

    For @Robear and others:


  18. Type III Jamming Personality Disorder Says:

    love that setlist. just waiting for it to pop up on etree…

  19. MiA Says:

    Yeah, thanks Kaveh.

  20. Kaveh Says:


    Gov’t Mule:

    Warren Haynes and Co. promised a set of Hendrix classics and that’s just what took place at The Riviera in Chicago. Nearly all of the Jimi covers Mule performed during the second set were debuts. The band dug for deep cuts (One Rainy Wish, 1983…, Up From The Skies) as well as some of Jimi’s best-known hits (Crosstown Traffic, Castles Made of Sand, Axis: Bold As Love).

    Set One: Blind Man In The Dark > World Boss > Larger Than Life > Gameface with Mountain Jam Tease, Fallen Down > The Other One Jam with Gimme Shelter Lyrics, Kind Of Bird with Get Up, Stand Up & The Wind Cries Mary Teases, Captured, Thorazine Shuffle

    Set Two: Hendrix Interview, EXP* > Are You Experienced?*, Freedom*, One Rainy Wish*, Up From The Skies*, Crosstown Traffic*, Bleeding Heart (Peoples, Peoples, Peoples)*, Angel*, …And The Gods Made Love*, Castles Made Of Sand*, Stone Free* with 3rd Stone From The Sun Tease, Rainy Day, Dream Day/Still Raining, Still Dreaming* with Chris Neal, 1983…(A Merman I Should Turn To Be)* > Machine Gun (Instrumental) > 1983…(A Merman I Should Turn To Be), Bold As Love*

    Encore: Happy Birthday Jam, Sco-Mule with Chris Neal, Little Wing with Chris Neal

    * First Time Played


    Greensky Bluegrass

    For the second year in a row jamgrass act Greensky Bluegrass celebrated Halloween with a Totally Bitchin’ ’80s Dance Party. This year the show took place at The Independent in San Francisco where the band put their inventive spin on songs from Hall and Oates, Dire Straits, The Police, Paul Simon, Bruce Springsteen and other hits from the ’80s.

    Set One: Money for Nothing, Maneater, Still Rock and Roll to Me, The Power of Love, When Doves Cry, With or Without You > Where the Streets Have No Name, I Ran, Halloween Breakdown, Free Fallin’, Dancing in the Dark

    Set Two: Beat It, Atlantic City, Rio, On the Road Again, Hungry Like the Wolf, Just Like Heaven, Driven to Tears, You Can Call Me Al, Could You Be Loved

    Encore: Don’t Lie

  21. Type III Jamming Personality Disorder Says:

    another great setlist. I caught mule’s pink floyd themed halloween show in 2008 and it was fantastic. that jimi one looks like one to hear as well

  22. Jtran Says:


  23. Kaveh Says:

    @T3: I caught the Zepplin Houses of the Holy Halloween here in St. Paul. Absolutely killer night! Warren let it rip; as usual.

    And yes, the Jimi show looks great too; going to find this one and give it a listen.

    The Mrs. and I are looking forward to Island Exodus with Gov’t Mule this January.

  24. Jtran Says:

    greensky in SD saturday night. very excited

  25. Dorn76 Says:

    Couldn’t get to NYC for Metermen and Page last night. Would’ve been a logistical nightmare driving half way and taking a train the other half. Given the circumstances I wasn’t really up to it.

    Moving the family in with my folks tonight. Can’t have a 2 year in my house with no heat. Dogfish 90, periodic trips to my old corner of the garage, and flood related reading for my Fri night entertainment.


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