Miner’s Mailbag V

6.25.10 Camden, NJ (Graham Lucas)

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@EdCochran18: Can you address the cultures of different venues?

This is one of the weirdest factors of going on tour—by far. Because you are (usually) in a different state every night, the first thing that comes into play are state laws. Last summer, for example, when tour jumped from California into the south and then back to Colorado, the culture was like day and night. Weed and other drugs are seen so differently from state to state in the US, its hard to believe we are still in the same country sometimes, (see OKC.) Thus the first thing to verse yourself on is the laws of where you are and how seriously they have it out for hippies. But then the venues, themselves, can be extremely laid back or tight. For example, at Bill Graham Civic the ushers patrolled to make sure you were smoking weed and not cigarettes (this is a fact), while at Merriweather, there are teen-aged girls, backed by an urban security SWAT team, making sure your feet don’t cross painted lines on the aisles in the pavilion, less they kick you onto the lawn (also a fact.) Sometimes security takes themselves way to seriously (Jones Beach) while others they encourage you to have fun (Hampton.) It’s pretty crazy to bounce from venue to venue and have to adjust to a new set of norms on a nightly basis when all you’re trying to do is dance and feel good, but—alas—that’s why Jedi training is a huge asset on Phish tour.

Chillest Venues: The Gorge, Hampton, Dick’s 

Tightest Venues: Merriweather Post, Jones Beach, Virginia Beach

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@Teddier: Five years into the future-what are Phish doing to keep their interest fresh and will their music change much by then?

Five years! Wow. Phish has only played four years in this era and we are jumping five more ahead. I’ll be completely honest and say that Phish 2017 may or may not exist. While I certainly hope so, five more years is a long time for these guys to keep going. For some reason, I don’t see Phish following the Grateful Dead model of play until you drop. I suppose nothing stands in their way of playing five years and beyond except a desire to move on. If they are still playing in five years, I sure hope the band has a couple more albums under their belt and we are hearing a hell of a lot of new material! Improvisationally, however, the sky is the limit. As long as these four guys are committed to each other, I am confident they will crank out high quality jams. Any stylistic conjecture would be sheer speculation of which I wouldn’t even know where to start. If Phish has one thing going for them, their fans will never lose interest no matter what they do. Tour wise, let me take a wild guess—maybe summer tour and a new years run?

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@Matthewgerber79: Do you ever see Mikes Song or YEM ever returning to their former improv glory, or has that ship sailed along with Halley’s?

Interestingly, all it takes is Trey’s will and either of these songs can snap back into form on any given night. But for whatever reason, I don’t see it happening. “YEM” doesn’t feel like as huge of a loss as “Mike’s,” which has gone from a top three jam vehicle for the second half of the ‘90s to a recycled guitar build. But at least “Mike’s” is over in eight minutes these days, while “YEM” still has nearly ten minutes of composition and five minutes of a vocal jam, leaving the song with negligible payoff on any given night. Everyone has been focusing on the rarity of “YEM” over the past two years as if it’s a bad thing, but if the band is only gonna step into four minutes of generic funk, my preference is to leave it on the shelf. There’s no need to kill so much of a set with the theatrics that are “YEM.” It’s unquestionably one of Phish’s greatest songs, but they’ve played it so much over their career, it seems like they no longer know how to make it interesting.

 @henryilnicky: top 5 bliss, groove, shred, space/weird jams #nextaskminer

Here are some personal favorites in no particular order and without racking my brain:

Bliss:

“My Left Toe” 7.21.99, Star Lake

“Reba” 7.6.94, Montreal

“Harry Hood” 12.28.10, Worcester

“Bathtub Gin” 8.17.97, Great Went

“Bathtub Gin” 9.12.99, Portland Meadows

Groove:

“Sand > Quadraphonic Toppling” 12.31.99, Big Cypress

“Ghost” 5.22.00, Radio City

“Bathtub Gin” 7.29.98, Riverport

“Roses Are Free” 4.3.98, Nassau

“Mike’s Song” 12.31.95, MSG

 Shred:

“Tweezer” 12.2.95, New Haven, CT

“Piper” 7.18.99, Oswego

“Antelope” 10.24.95, Madison, WI

“Drowned > Rock and Roll” 6.29.2000, PNC

“Antelope” 12.9.94, La Mesa, AZ

Space/Weird:

“Drowned” 9.14.00, Darien Lake

“Wolfman’s Brother” 10.31.98, Vegas

“David Bowie” 12.29.94, Providence

“Disease > Free” 6.26.95, SPAC

“Reba > Walk Away” 10.29.98, Los Angeles

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369 Responses to “Miner’s Mailbag V”

  1. kayatosh Says:

    stay frosty, dorn.

    alf: thanks for the link. fuck fracking. Incidents of breast cancer go up in a fracking zone; gas industry response: paint one of their rigs pink.

  2. kayatosh Says:

    “loved being asked what I was smoking at BGCA like it was a quality test or something. some dude comes up tome and politely asks what I’m smoking.

    “OG Kush” a bit of “Sour Diesel”

    OK your good. proceed.” — RL

    ^^^ had the privilege of witnessing this exchange firsthand. FACT. how it should be.

  3. xpun Says:

    this playlist is so sick. halfway point is 12-31-95 mikes, which ends with treys be back in 15, perfect place to pause and hit tt

    i wish they’d do mike’s right again. so sad

  4. ren Says:

    I think there’s been enough Mikes talk…that we may see it reemerge at MSG. Can’t help but wonder how NYC’s current situation may play into the run. Tory IS a NYer now!?!?!

  5. xpun Says:

    was thinking that the other day ren

    maybe a nice harpua with a feel good recovery story, although really those of you up there probably don’t want to even think about it while at the show. a place to get away from it all

  6. Gavinsdad Says:

    Where is @steamer? He’s our man for letting us know when we are gonna get jams back.

  7. Phlorida Phan Says:

    don’t sleep on them thunder chickens!

  8. ren Says:

    maybe a nice harpua with a feel good recovery story, although really those of you up there probably don’t want to even think about it while at the show. a place to get away from it all

    ^agreed. Would rather see it manifest purely as a SLAYED run.

  9. Guyute711 Says:

    Long way to go to claim a title. Unless you would like to concede this game. I’d really appreciate it. :)

  10. xpun Says:

    nice. top 2 teams playing each other. g$ off to big start with SD def, but looks like it will come down to a comeback on monday night with g$ yelling at brees through the tv

  11. bhizzle Says:

    “Protect your air quality, you can’t have sex without it.”

    DING, DING, DING!
    We have a winnah, ladies and gents!

  12. Phlorida Phan Says:

    shit myself when i woke up and saw your defense got 25 pts. That was me last monday yelling for V. Davis to get 1 more yrd. Ended up losing by .22 pts, bad beat of the century right there

  13. Guyute711 Says:

    Yeah, I had my eye on that having already known that I tallied my first loss.

  14. Phlorida Phan Says:

    yeah, i had given up, then dude catches a pass for 9 yrds. He could have lowered his shoulder and hit someone and got a first down, but chose to step out of bounds instead. Fuct!

  15. xpun Says:

    i lost a game a few years back on the last play of monday night. my qb dropped back for hail mary and fumbled recovered by the others guys def. sack & fumble pts taken from me and given to him. was in shock.

    saw that loss last week phan. tough one.

  16. phlorida phan Says:

    Damn, that would take the cake for bad beat of the century then.

  17. Guyute711 Says:

    I lost in the playoffs when Jamal Lewis was on the Browns and fumbled on the goal line. If I remember correctly he had a bunch of yards on the last drive to put me into position for the win. Doh!!!

  18. kayatosh Says:

    dang. underestimated the mrkt.’s capacity to sell off.

  19. kayatosh Says:

    sweet little party going down in the TT. if you got powah and intra net, come join.

    if not, this ruinations for you.

    http://turntable.fm/bb_spiritual_plinko_funk

  20. Selector J Says:

    re: fuck fracking
    In defense of my fossil fuel finding friends, I must point out that the claim linking fracking and breast cancer is 100% BS. Here’s a nice little summary from the Village Voice.

    “Nullius in verba,” as the Romans used to say.

  21. kayatosh Says:

    alright, selectr. thanks for keeping it honest. pulled that right from the “The Sky is Pink” alf video.

    pro-selector, pro-environment, pro-alf, anti-fracking.

  22. Guyute711 Says:

    I’m pro Burns Omni Net. It sweeps the sea clean.

  23. Selector J Says:

    okay… I apologize in adavnce for fracking up the BB but I just watched “The Sky Is Pink” for the first time. Not a big fan.

    Obviously, there’s pros and cons to the issue but this kind of documentary is meant to portray things as some simplistic battle of good vs evil. He plays loose with the facts (not to mention the ‘facts’) and makes bold sweeping statements but then doesn’t back them up with significant evidence, if he offers any evidence at all.

    Obviously, there’s nothing wrong with being an activist or an environmentalist. Kudos to people who give a shit and take action. But when you take action, you should do it the right way: honestly and justly.

    Fox fails on these two measures. He’s playing the bogeyman game, distorting facts, and essentially acting as a propagandist himself. This type of film is meant to scare people into action– shedding minimal light on the actual complicated issues at hand.

    /soapbox

    “You just can’t make this stuff up.”
    -Josh Fox

    Actually, you just did!

  24. Selector J Says:

    Sorry again for the rant.

    FYI:
    Obviously, “obviously’ is a great way to start a paragraph. :mrgreen:

  25. Selector J Says:

    And for the record, I’m very much pro-kaya and pro-alf.

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