Miner’s Mailbag V

6.25.10 Camden, NJ (Graham Lucas)

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@EdCochran18: Can you address the cultures of different venues?

This is one of the weirdest factors of going on tour—by far. Because you are (usually) in a different state every night, the first thing that comes into play are state laws. Last summer, for example, when tour jumped from California into the south and then back to Colorado, the culture was like day and night. Weed and other drugs are seen so differently from state to state in the US, its hard to believe we are still in the same country sometimes, (see OKC.) Thus the first thing to verse yourself on is the laws of where you are and how seriously they have it out for hippies. But then the venues, themselves, can be extremely laid back or tight. For example, at Bill Graham Civic the ushers patrolled to make sure you were smoking weed and not cigarettes (this is a fact), while at Merriweather, there are teen-aged girls, backed by an urban security SWAT team, making sure your feet don’t cross painted lines on the aisles in the pavilion, less they kick you onto the lawn (also a fact.) Sometimes security takes themselves way to seriously (Jones Beach) while others they encourage you to have fun (Hampton.) It’s pretty crazy to bounce from venue to venue and have to adjust to a new set of norms on a nightly basis when all you’re trying to do is dance and feel good, but—alas—that’s why Jedi training is a huge asset on Phish tour.

Chillest Venues: The Gorge, Hampton, Dick’s 

Tightest Venues: Merriweather Post, Jones Beach, Virginia Beach

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@Teddier: Five years into the future-what are Phish doing to keep their interest fresh and will their music change much by then?

Five years! Wow. Phish has only played four years in this era and we are jumping five more ahead. I’ll be completely honest and say that Phish 2017 may or may not exist. While I certainly hope so, five more years is a long time for these guys to keep going. For some reason, I don’t see Phish following the Grateful Dead model of play until you drop. I suppose nothing stands in their way of playing five years and beyond except a desire to move on. If they are still playing in five years, I sure hope the band has a couple more albums under their belt and we are hearing a hell of a lot of new material! Improvisationally, however, the sky is the limit. As long as these four guys are committed to each other, I am confident they will crank out high quality jams. Any stylistic conjecture would be sheer speculation of which I wouldn’t even know where to start. If Phish has one thing going for them, their fans will never lose interest no matter what they do. Tour wise, let me take a wild guess—maybe summer tour and a new years run?

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@Matthewgerber79: Do you ever see Mikes Song or YEM ever returning to their former improv glory, or has that ship sailed along with Halley’s?

Interestingly, all it takes is Trey’s will and either of these songs can snap back into form on any given night. But for whatever reason, I don’t see it happening. “YEM” doesn’t feel like as huge of a loss as “Mike’s,” which has gone from a top three jam vehicle for the second half of the ‘90s to a recycled guitar build. But at least “Mike’s” is over in eight minutes these days, while “YEM” still has nearly ten minutes of composition and five minutes of a vocal jam, leaving the song with negligible payoff on any given night. Everyone has been focusing on the rarity of “YEM” over the past two years as if it’s a bad thing, but if the band is only gonna step into four minutes of generic funk, my preference is to leave it on the shelf. There’s no need to kill so much of a set with the theatrics that are “YEM.” It’s unquestionably one of Phish’s greatest songs, but they’ve played it so much over their career, it seems like they no longer know how to make it interesting.

 @henryilnicky: top 5 bliss, groove, shred, space/weird jams #nextaskminer

Here are some personal favorites in no particular order and without racking my brain:

Bliss:

“My Left Toe” 7.21.99, Star Lake

“Reba” 7.6.94, Montreal

“Harry Hood” 12.28.10, Worcester

“Bathtub Gin” 8.17.97, Great Went

“Bathtub Gin” 9.12.99, Portland Meadows

Groove:

“Sand > Quadraphonic Toppling” 12.31.99, Big Cypress

“Ghost” 5.22.00, Radio City

“Bathtub Gin” 7.29.98, Riverport

“Roses Are Free” 4.3.98, Nassau

“Mike’s Song” 12.31.95, MSG

 Shred:

“Tweezer” 12.2.95, New Haven, CT

“Piper” 7.18.99, Oswego

“Antelope” 10.24.95, Madison, WI

“Drowned > Rock and Roll” 6.29.2000, PNC

“Antelope” 12.9.94, La Mesa, AZ

Space/Weird:

“Drowned” 9.14.00, Darien Lake

“Wolfman’s Brother” 10.31.98, Vegas

“David Bowie” 12.29.94, Providence

“Disease > Free” 6.26.95, SPAC

“Reba > Walk Away” 10.29.98, Los Angeles

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369 Responses to “Miner’s Mailbag V”

  1. El Duderino Says:

    Nice! enjoy your weekend Sumo!

  2. sumodie Says:

    Duder, while i may overly quiet on FB, i love seeing your Jake updates, what a beautiful babe. Hlpe ur gettin more sleep!

  3. El Duderino Says:

    it has improved.
    Yeah, the last pic after we voted is our favorite.
    total smile on ‘lil Lebowski’s face

  4. phoammhead Says:

    our favorite local band, which played at our wedding

    http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=552247

    Brushfire Stankgrass
    Pisgah Brewing Company
    Black Mountain, NC
    2012.01.27

    LIVE (matrix):

    Source 1: SBD > Sony M10 (24/48)

    Source 2: BSC2 K1 (mono, card, ROC, ~7.5′ high, ~20′ back) > Busbox > Busman/Oade Mod UA-5 > Roland R-05 (24/48)

    HOME: M10 + R-05 > Audacity (align, fix time drift, levels, merge, tracking, fades, dither/resample) > xACT (fix SBE (for 16 bit), ffp)

    ~Set 1~

    01. Nicaragua
    02. B-Jam (Bisque)
    03. Microclimates
    04. Panthertown
    05. Sugar Glider
    06. City Rats
    07. The Craving
    08. Floatation Device
    09. Futbol Reggae
    10. One for the Salamanders
    11. Soul
    12. Fumaquious

    ~Set 2~

    01. Tomorrow Never Knows
    02. Down Time
    03. California Knows How to Party
    04. Hippies Hornpipe
    05. Cubism
    06. ??
    07. Chinese Breakdown
    08. Door Upstairs
    09. Strangest Things
    10. Spill
    11. Banjo In My Spaceship
    12. Harvest Reggae
    13. Moon Rocks
    14. Party #1

  5. BingosBrother Says:

    Its a Shame About Rey.

  6. phoammhead Says:

    wha happen

  7. RoosterPizza Says:

    How’s it going everyone?

    Duder, how’s being a father going? Pretty fun stuff, huh?

  8. Bad Nirvana Cover Band Says:

    Greetings from the now sunny West. All kind of goodies coming to fruition.

    Have lead on cheap hotel over nYE run. Also heard Bisco after party for two nights across from mSG.

  9. El Duderino Says:

    fun and exhausting Rooster

  10. Bad Nirvana Cover Band Says:

    No one covers Nirvana……..Bollocks!!

  11. Mr. Palmer Says:

    Hey folks. Still chillin in NJ in the dark ages. Governor order gas limits here depending on your license plate. Last number even, can only go on even days, vice versa. Lines shorter. Hopefully 48 hours until things are normal with that.

    Who knows when we get power back. Not really important in grand scheme of things. There are kids in Staten Island who haven’t eaten in 3 days. People are coming together and helping one another. Faith in humanity restored.

    Can’t keep the people of tri- state down.

  12. BingosBrother Says:

    Only lycan covers nirvana.

  13. Dr Pronoia Says:

    home

    filled up the back of a friend’s car with clothes, baby stuff, and other assorted gear from our place to be brought to staten island. shit is bad there, and other places too. wish I could get out there and help more, but 20 month old demands all hands on deck

    this gas shortage is crazy. lives organized around lines with gas cans

    hoping estimates were too conservative, Palmer, and you’ll be back in the future before too long

  14. sumodie Says:

    Bring back jazzy Antelopes! Spun 10.30.98 & really dug the jazz influenced jamming

  15. MiA Says:

    Hundred on Texas tech over Texas -7.

    Think Texas is gonna get clobbered.

    Easy money.

  16. MiA Says:

    Not having gas is a minor inconvenience really.

  17. PhishNerd Says:

    Correction: 9/14/00 Darien Lake 9/24/00 has the tasty Cities

  18. MiA Says:

    Not to make light of anyone’s suffering though.

  19. tzara's Says:

    Unless it’s running your generator to boil your water and keep you from freezing I guess.

  20. tzara's Says:

    Not to come out of hibernation with a smartass comment. What’s up MiA? In three days all the wine will be in barrel finally. Been a long harvest season, but a great one.

  21. Gavinsdad Says:

    The storyteller makes no choice
    soon you will not hear his voice
    his job is to shed light
    and not to master

    Englishtown 77 over here

  22. voopa Says:

    MSG:
    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=10952517&l=aeca182339&id=95184371935

  23. BooVT Says:

    My wife bought tickets to a local beer tasting fundraiser thing last night. Sounded good enough. But, the beer samples were served in these tiny little cups like the ones for giving my kids cough medicine. I got sick of that real fast, and decided to just go up to the bar and order a real full size beer. The only choices there were bud, bud light, coors light, mich ultra. WTF! So now that I have good-beer-blue-balls, I’m forcing my family to go to the British Beer Company restaurant tonight so I can get some man size tasty brews. Yay!

  24. BooVT Says:

    Oh, and I had to miss my old man Friday night hockey skate, taboot…

  25. BooVT Says:

    Here’s a listing of the beer choices for tonight. Any recommendations from the wise knowledgeable BB beer aficionados?

    http://www.britishbeer.com/menu-beer.asp?p=7

    Off to son’s hockey practice, but I’ll check back here before dinner…
    Peace.

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