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GD that’s a list that needs to be compiled & kept up to date. only a handful of brands the connoisseurs around here would consider ‘micro’ that are owned/operated by the big 2, with goose island the big one there
what’s harder is to figure out what micros these bigger companies have a stake in. biggest surprise i learned of recently – terrapin out of GA, partially owned by SabMiller (and does not appear on that ^ list of SM brands)
there are others outside the big 2 orbit, like north american breweries (owns magic hat, pyramid, genessee, dundee, others), or even more small/regional, fx matt (owns saranac, recently bought flying bison of buffalo)
reading the lists of ABI & SMC brands, though, you can definitely get the sense of how GLOBAL these companies are in scope and marketing strategy. american craft beer doesn’t mean all that much to them imo. yes they try to capture some of the market, but in terms of the overall business strategies its far from the main concerns
Thank u ALF. I am gonna do my own research too. I appreciate it. I am somewhat attentive and I know most of what I’m sippin is really small output beer. Kind of snobby tho…I mean, I never even tried a goose island and am not pursuing it, but my little rotation of what i like is pretty small breweries anyway. With the big exception of all the Guinness I drink. I literally drink most of the guinness cause of low abv and if I have my car I wanna be considerate of that. I can’t really put em away. A really really big nite for me is 5 beers.
So my dilemna, do I go to my regular Dr., and hope he has an open mind on ganga, or just go to one of the Dr.’s littering the world with pot prescription ads. By the way, the current price which seemingly is the early norm is $199 for the visit, the $30 every year to reup. Could be worse. One guy does not charge if they say no, which is pretty fing cool. Still the whole thing just seems silly, but it’s better than what used to be the scene.
On a different subject has anyone checked out the santa cruz Grateful dead project? Can a person go the SC library and check out all the material as long as you stay on site? What a great way to spend a week. And if I was retired, I would consider going to santa cruz to get a graduate degree in the Dead if that was possible. Hell i might do it now :<) Then open some sort of grateful Dead themed location in my home town, and give lectures on the Dead, maybe offer classes. Say one could be Garcia, Persian, and the effects on midi in grateful Dead music or Billy K and the beast inside and out or Bobby Weir and the basic tenets of being a full out freak or Phil and the bombs of the barbery coast and beyond :<)
By the way I know persian is not cool, it was just a dumb joke so sorry if it offended anyone. IMHO Jerry Garcia is the nicest, most talented individual ever to have played music, and to tie him down just with drugs is way oversimplifying the truth, but a joke is a joke.
I’m gonna need tour dates soon. Going to have a company retreat sometime in July and if I don’t ask schedule my vacation soon I won’t have any way to get out of it. If I end up missing reachable shows because of some work retreat I’m gonna be pissed. Come on Phish, help me out.
i think the 13 “other” votes were probably those of us that voted before 1-1-11 was an option
i voted sand>ghost because its just impossible to split those tracks meaning that’s theres no obvious end of sand and beginning of ghost. a true –>
the more i listen the more sand>kane sounds preplanned. maybe not before the set, but at least talked about during the jam. mike and page just suddenly drop out about 4 seconds before the segue to allow for the switch in tempos. either way, 100% nitpicking and 100% great pairing.
@verno – i have to set up my vacation every january so it’s all a guess to me. then it becomes a stalling process with the wife to try not have the family vacation screw me. no honey i’m not going to the beach with you and the kids, im going to festival x doesn’t fly with the mrs
@xpun, do you think Sand -> Ghost wasn’t preplanned? I tend to think it was seeing that they came back to sand and jammed right out of it into the second ghost of leg 2 and the 1st since opening night. I think they knew that set before they played it. The same could be said for the Ghost -> Piper, another smooth ass move from one song to the next with the addition of a mini-segue jam after the main jam is over. I am pro-this maneuver, b/c every time Trey chops a jam for another song, I always think to myself, “With 30 seconds of planning or forethought that could have been a slick segue “->” style. Not to say that with patience, the band couldn’t do this in real time, but Phish pre-wrote setists for most of their career—and I certainly think that saying —let’s jam from “Sand > Ghost” or Sand > Kane” diminishes the execution. I thought that as opposed to “golfen > caspian > light” which whose “segues” were sloppy—and clearly unplanned, felt pretty different than the calculated segue jams of “Sand > Ghost > Piper.” Maybe I’m wrong and they were just very smooth that night, but I think they probably said, “Let’s take this “Sand” out” before the set as they clearly—quasi-abruptly—changed the jam for the mid tempo $$$ part. I often think the shows could use a bit more forsight, both on the setlist and sometimes within the jam endings themselves. Anyway, just ramblin at this point, but just thought I’d chime in. #offseasonphishthoughts
I’d like to weigh in on the thoughts of one Mr. Miner. In the middle of a jam from the ages that seems so not planned it’s sick. Denver 2nd set after the 1st set. In JJLC currently. My question would be do they need to pre plan jams that used to come naturally based on the psychadelics that were in their system? I’m not saying they were trippin during this show, but I would just assume such a thing based on what I’m hearing. Thanks to BNCB for the suggestion. The 1st set is great, but the 2nd sounds very like coming down from a trip. IMHO. Either way, they are a psychadelic band that probably doesn’t take psychadelics anymore. Or do they? I’d like to be there when they do again on stage. Maybe coming soon to a theatre near us all. Peace.