An Off Night

10.22.13 Rochester, NY (Jesse Herzog)

10.22.13 (Jesse Herzog)

Even Phish has an off show from time to time and last night in Rochester, New York was most definitely one of them. Unable to rekindle the magic of Hampton, the band slogged through a performance in which they never truly hooked up. They certainly gave it a valiant effort at the beginning of the second set, however, pushing through a lull in “Crosseyed and Painless” to find some interesting ground, but both “Light” and “Golden Age” were cut noticeably short as the band couldn’t find a solid groove. Finally, Trey threw up the white flag of surrender in the form of “Birds of a Feather,” and put the band on cruise control for the rest of the set. Showing signs of their age and fatigue, Phish were just never able to gel last night and played a totally flat performance in their anticipated return to War Memorial Coliseum.

10/22 Official (Fug Screen)

10/22 Official (Fug Screen)

Fully standard songs filled the first set with the exception of “Scent of a Mule,” “Timber” and “Halfway to the Moon,” though nothing really popped off the stage. One had to figure the band was exhaling after their three night run and torrid final set at Hampton, and that big things would surely follow setbreak. Or would they?

Opening the main event with “Crosseyed”—a move that had produced highlight-reel results at both PNC and The Gorge—the guys seemed primed to slaughter their third second-set opener in a row. The rock jam out of the lyrics went off just fine, but when band opened things up, one of the band members—I think Trey—slowed the jam down considerably and threw everyone else off. The band meandered for a bit, but persevered instead of bailing out and was able to salvage a final segment of “Crosseyed” that provided show’s most impressive moments. The entire excursion, however, was kind of went all over the map and featured much looser, sparser jamming that we heard over tour’s opening weekend. Go figure, Phish are human too.

10.22.13 (Jesse Herzog)

10.22.13 (Jesse Herzog)

When the band started up “Light,” it was a sign they would to go for it again, but as soon as the jam heated up into a mid-tempo groove, Trey decided to sing the opening to “Golden Age” over this texture, thus eliminating any chance of Fall’s first “Light” jam. The guys stuck with the slowed down tempo, giving “Golden Age” a more infectious, funky feel, but when the jam started, they—once again—couldn’t find a thing. Vamping over some funk chords for a while, the band gave it a shot but in the end never were able to cohere and bailed on the idea entirely. And then came the flag of surrender.

10.22.13 (J.Herzog)

10.22.13 (J.Herzog)

A harmless set of singles carried the show to its end, including one of the least impressive versions of “You Enjoy Myself” you’ll ever hear. Phish just flat out didn’t have it last night in Rochester, and now the immediate question becomes Glens Falls. This is a show that is carrying a lot of hype and will be attended by plenty of the band’s friends and family—two factors that don’t always, historically, produce the best results. With a monster New England weekend on the horizon in Worcester and Hartford, I could see this show going either way—explode or fizzle. I’m certainly pulling for the former.

I: AC/DC Bag, The Moma Dance, Axilla, Meatstick, Kill Devil Falls, Scent of a Mule, Timber, My Friend, My Friend, Halfway to the Moon, Maze, Character Zero

II: Crosseyed and Painless > Light -> Golden Age > Birds of a Feather, Halley’s Comet > Possum, Bug, Heavy Things, You Enjoy Myself

E: Joy, First Tube

10.22.13 (Jesse Herzog)

10.22.13 (Jesse Herzog)

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632 Responses to “An Off Night”

  1. Mr. Palmer Says:

    I totally agree that the Whale discussion is trite and played out..

    SOme like , some don’t.. know what? It doesn’t matter. Trey will do it how and when he pleases and we will listen and listen and give him $$$.. End of Story..

    Now.. Set II bitches

  2. tela's_muff Says:

    i hear ya C. it’s the first time i’ve actually been negative with the whale and the lectures comes out. where were all the comments when i spent 2 years hyping the Cincy Melt from ’99!! 😉

  3. MrCompletely Says:

    I sincerely am not trying to dictate the convo or harsh any mellows and I do get that some people are simply not down with the Big Beluga under any circumstances, I hope I have now offered enough caveats to avoid potential offense

  4. MiA Says:

    There ya go

  5. Mr. Palmer Says:

    T3 with the call …. or mia?

  6. Type III Jamming Personality Disorder Says:


  7. MrCompletely Says:

    how about looped whale, @unrelated?

  8. Slicksasquatch Says:

    Wow Mia ! Nice call on the “back in the ussr ” opener . Or should I say nice suggestion

  9. MiA Says:

    It was Palmer…

  10. Angryjoggerz Says:


  11. jtran Says:

    rnr > jennifer dances

  12. PigSong Says:

    Welp. there’s the Ph stream I like. How y’all?

    I bought a house today.. christening the living room with heady beer and Phish stream I guess.

  13. tela's_muff Says:

    not offended, at all. whale on folks!

  14. MiA Says:

    I like to think they read their Twitter feeds.

  15. Phamily Berzerker Says:

    What’s good?

    Stream link?

  16. pbs Says:

    Good evening all, here in time for set II! What’s in everyone’s glass? Midnight Sun’s Berzerker here.

    Also, I’ve got one stub for Woosta1. No love selling it, need to find it a home. pauls at safetec dot net if you want it!


  17. Angryjoggerz Says:

    Space whale is my preference flavor

  18. PigSong Says:

    I’m so out of touch. Is this official in the round-about-way? Or have covert streams become this good?

  19. Type III Jamming Personality Disorder Says:

    I agree with you, smuff. But I prefer to not hash this potato as per one of the caveats mRc listed above.

  20. Mr. Palmer Says:


    Sports would be spectacular fun…

  21. bob dylan Says:

    The more Robert Palmer I hear the more I wonder why I don’t have any in my iTunes.

    Will remedy that tonight.

    Work work work to make it work on that stream had me grooving down the sidewalk.

  22. xpun Says:

    Fuck yeah LC. Cheaped out on the cast and BOOM!! BB hookup.

  23. bob dylan Says:

    How about a scents for set two. I’m not hitting any this tour so at least watching video will suffice.

    Did fishman show his junk at the 94 show? Is that was I didn’t know joke was about?

  24. Phamily Berzerker Says:

    this place japes itself.

    Gracias , Pigsong

  25. phishm Says:

    Told ya. It.

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