An Off Night

10.22.13 Rochester, NY (Jesse Herzog)

10.22.13 (Jesse Herzog)

Even Phish has an off show from time to time and last night in Rochester, New York was most definitely one of them. Unable to rekindle the magic of Hampton, the band slogged through a performance in which they never truly hooked up. They certainly gave it a valiant effort at the beginning of the second set, however, pushing through a lull in “Crosseyed and Painless” to find some interesting ground, but both “Light” and “Golden Age” were cut noticeably short as the band couldn’t find a solid groove. Finally, Trey threw up the white flag of surrender in the form of “Birds of a Feather,” and put the band on cruise control for the rest of the set. Showing signs of their age and fatigue, Phish were just never able to gel last night and played a totally flat performance in their anticipated return to War Memorial Coliseum.

10/22 Official (Fug Screen)

10/22 Official (Fug Screen)

Fully standard songs filled the first set with the exception of “Scent of a Mule,” “Timber” and “Halfway to the Moon,” though nothing really popped off the stage. One had to figure the band was exhaling after their three night run and torrid final set at Hampton, and that big things would surely follow setbreak. Or would they?

Opening the main event with “Crosseyed”—a move that had produced highlight-reel results at both PNC and The Gorge—the guys seemed primed to slaughter their third second-set opener in a row. The rock jam out of the lyrics went off just fine, but when band opened things up, one of the band members—I think Trey—slowed the jam down considerably and threw everyone else off. The band meandered for a bit, but persevered instead of bailing out and was able to salvage a final segment of “Crosseyed” that provided show’s most impressive moments. The entire excursion, however, was kind of went all over the map and featured much looser, sparser jamming that we heard over tour’s opening weekend. Go figure, Phish are human too.

10.22.13 (Jesse Herzog)

10.22.13 (Jesse Herzog)

When the band started up “Light,” it was a sign they would to go for it again, but as soon as the jam heated up into a mid-tempo groove, Trey decided to sing the opening to “Golden Age” over this texture, thus eliminating any chance of Fall’s first “Light” jam. The guys stuck with the slowed down tempo, giving “Golden Age” a more infectious, funky feel, but when the jam started, they—once again—couldn’t find a thing. Vamping over some funk chords for a while, the band gave it a shot but in the end never were able to cohere and bailed on the idea entirely. And then came the flag of surrender.

10.22.13 (J.Herzog)

10.22.13 (J.Herzog)

A harmless set of singles carried the show to its end, including one of the least impressive versions of “You Enjoy Myself” you’ll ever hear. Phish just flat out didn’t have it last night in Rochester, and now the immediate question becomes Glens Falls. This is a show that is carrying a lot of hype and will be attended by plenty of the band’s friends and family—two factors that don’t always, historically, produce the best results. With a monster New England weekend on the horizon in Worcester and Hartford, I could see this show going either way—explode or fizzle. I’m certainly pulling for the former.

I: AC/DC Bag, The Moma Dance, Axilla, Meatstick, Kill Devil Falls, Scent of a Mule, Timber, My Friend, My Friend, Halfway to the Moon, Maze, Character Zero

II: Crosseyed and Painless > Light -> Golden Age > Birds of a Feather, Halley’s Comet > Possum, Bug, Heavy Things, You Enjoy Myself

E: Joy, First Tube

10.22.13 (Jesse Herzog)

10.22.13 (Jesse Herzog)

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632 Responses to “An Off Night”

  1. dorn76 Says:

    Jazz hands…..and I’m spent.

  2. little umbrellas Says:


  3. [an unrelated] wilson Says:

    my mind was blown at -7
    The rest was gravy

  4. little umbrellas Says:

    phew. long night to go for me. big smoke and back to an audio book.. been a while since ‘Snow Crash’.. bout time. has a decent reader taboot.

  5. BooVT Says:

    Thank you Lucas.
    Thank you Mr. Miner.
    I love this band.

  6. Underlurker Says:

    What an awesome 4th quarter!

  7. jerseyjim Says:

    thx to Lucas for the stream.

  8. Random Poster...Nutbag Says:

    Tone, set lists, song length\placement, etc…. I pretty much dig it all at the end of the day. Just thankful to have this band and the discourse that goes with it really. I just wish I had more time to invest in it. Life’d, but still appreciative.

  9. MrCompletely Says:

    New York union overtime is no joke. you got that right bob d

  10. Phamily Berzerker Says:

    Was about to say the same thing, C.

  11. Phamily Berzerker Says:

    ^ so i said that instead.

  12. Random Poster...Nutbag Says:

    Ackbar cereal!!! The force was very strong with MiA’s calls on the Beatles bookends. I’m now craving this, so yeah, too many cocktails for me at tonight’s work dinner!

  13. harryhood Says:

    Heading north…… Great show. Plenty of BBers holding down Sec U.

  14. bob dylan Says:

    We have shelves in our freezer now so there is room for my glasses. Beer out of an ice cold glass is downright refreshing.

  15. sumodie Says:

    Was the 3 tier general admission policy enforced? Or could anyone wander anywhere?

    Hope those in the room had a blast!!!

  16. voopa Says:

    Mmm…Frosted Whale Loops…

  17. sumodie Says:

    How long was that song?:,799/Phish-mp3-flac-download-10-23-2013-Glens-Falls-Civic-Center-Glens-Falls-NY.html

  18. little umbrellas Says:

    The Inflated Tear by Rahsaan Roland Kirk –

  19. jdub Says:

    No 3 tier seating enforced. Just GA floor and seats.

    Big shout out to Sumo for handing off a stack of tickets for BBers. We held it down Back corner Fishman side. Nice group pf Bbers taking it all in. Best of luck down south @Sumo.

    Huge Twist. Venue lived up to the tiny shithole I dreamed it would be.

  20. Quigley Says:

    Hey, I was there tonight, halfway up on Page side. FWIW, Page seemed to have equipment problems at the end of R&R – he changed instruments (moved to 9:00 in his square if the piano & clav are at 6), then paused and called someone over to talk and fiddle around back there. He seemed distracted in that final minute or so of R&R.

    Great great great time though. Bowie > Golgi nearly detonated the building; I’ve never felt that much energy in a room. The bathroom situation there is worse then Worcester. The building has capacity for 5,000 at a hockey game, not 7,500 at a show. Yeesh.

  21. plord Says:

    Hey BB!

    Fun fun show. First set was compelling, placement surprises everywhere. I thought the Bowie jam started from the same place as the Rochester Crosseyed last jam segment; very similar feel and tone from Red, or so it seemed. I like that space and hope they really go deep with it sometime. Undermind and Limb in the same set is always welcome; both were contained but raging. Camel Walk was clavvy fun, but that is what, 3 song endings Fishman has botched so far this tour? It’s like a running gag. Seasickness Melt to close the first set, seriously warped and worked the room over. Kuroda destroyed during that Melt as well, it must be said.

    RnR felt a bit short, -7 very very nice. Then, I had to tell myself to relax. It paid off, Twist was a jaw dropper. and then the biggest Hood peak-out in a hot minute.

    Sumo, “SRO” was basically the same as GA arena, no issues grabbing a seat. Floor was controlled but stubbing didn’t seem too tough and I saw at least 2 guys make the jump. There seemed to be plenty of extras outside but the joint was packed by the time Undermind dropped. GFCC was bigger than I thought; Only a little smaller floor than Rochester but lacking a whole separate upper tier of seats to double the capacity. With the low ceiling, Kuroda was working in a flatter space than usual and really worked it on the side angles. There were crowd outbursts for a few of his lighting cues (Melt for sure, maybe the Camel Walk also?).

    Saw Neemor, Jdub, KwL, RoosterPizza, Ghostphunk, HHood, Frankie; spied Miner and Butter down on the floor. Crowd was super tuned in all night.

    Fun show, will have replay value, Twist is a true keeper.

  22. plord Says:

    Section U represent!

    Quigley notes the ugly truth about the mound/meatstick ratio. Bathroom lines were roller-coaster class.

  23. 4thDimension Says:

    special night in a special building. one of the best first sets of 3.0. one of the best total experiences — town, venue, phan vibe, quality of music and sound in venue, less yapping and cigs, amazing feeling of energy in room

  24. MrCompletely Says:

    nice. No Wile E. Coyote off the cliff tonight

  25. William H. Bonney Says:

    You’d better flush out your head, new guy. This isn’t about freedom; this is a slaughter. If I’m gonna get my balls blown off for a word, my word is “poontang”.

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