Revisiting Rochester

Fall 2013 (Andrea Nusinov)

Fall 2013 (Andrea Nusinov)

What the heck happened in Rochester? On a tour where Phish could do no wrong, they stopped in western New York on a Tuesday night and threw an absolute clunker. Not only did the band display a noticeable lack of energy, they simply couldn’t hook up improvisationally. Only two days removed from a white hot weekend in Hampton, the site of several prolific jams, things—suddenly—had taken 180 degree turn. The band gave it their best effort for the opening of the second set, but before long, set things on cruise control—at around 45 mph—for the rest of the night. Since I haven’t as much mentioned this show since tour ended, I thought it was high tome to go back and see what the heck went down in Phish’s third show at War Memorial Auditorium.

Rochester Official (Fugscreens)

Rochester Official (Fugscreens)

Rochester was the first show that many Northeastern fans caught on fall tour, and with the buzz on Hampton’s final set still thick in the air, everyone laced up their dancing shoes for what felt like a no-brainer throwdown. But unlike most nights in their career, the band simply couldn’t get it going. A solid, if not slow, first set seemed par for the course after a monstrous three nights—an easy frame to work back into things. “Timber” provided a glimpse of jamming, though mostly standard songs filled out the set with nothing out of the ordinary. Things would clearly elevate after setbreak—or would they?

Both times the band had opened with “Crosseyed” this year, in Holmdel and at the Gorge, the jam blew up into a tour highlight. Thus, when the band brought out the Talking Heads’ cover for the third time of 2013, and the first time indoors, one suspected a monstrosity. But this time, the jam never got off the ground. What happened?

Reading (A.Nusinov)

Reading (A.Nusinov)

The guys had things on lock down through the structured part of the jam, but when they went to open things up, they were never able to connect. Just as they moved into free form territory, Fishman, inexplicably, dropped his rhythm out of the mix, abruptly shifting the feel of the excursion and throwing everyone off. The band members tried to adjust to this beatless canvas, but it took some time for anything to truly transpire. On listen back, Trey attempts to push things with a set of quickened chords, but nobody joins him, and at this juncture it sounds like Fish and Trey are on completely different pages and not united at all. Typically the axis of Phish, Trey and Fish struggled through this initial section, though finally reached some level of harmony allowing the jam to progress.

Phish gained some momentum through the next part of “Crosseyed’s” jam, but their playing remained disjointed and didn’t resemble the well-oiled machine we had witnessed in Virgina. The jam continues in very generic fashion, though nothing, whatsoever, develops. Following an uncharacteristically awkward meat of this jam, the band found a decent groove in the final, ethereal portion of this segmented set opener. Some nice, loose textures emerged, but the guys are merely wandering, and before long, Trey cut things off with the opening to “Light.”

Atlantic City (G.Estreich)

Atlantic City (G.Estreich)

If at first you don’t succeed, try, try again—and this is what the move into “Light” was all about. Not willing to accept defeat, Trey led the band into, perhaps, their most wide open jam vehicle to see what they could come up with. But following a solid composed section, once the band dove into open waters, it was nothing but stinksville—the guys just couldn’t connect. Over a choppy groove, Trey began chording and then signing “Golden Age” in half-speed, executing a smooth segue and giving the crowd something unique to cheer about. The guys stuck with the slower tempo—one would think to foreshadow a dirty funk jam—but once “Golden Age’s” improvisational passage dropped, it sounded like all four band members were on different drugs. In short, it was a mess. Page tried to salvage things getting down on his clavinet, but it was all for naught. Before anything transpired musically, Trey counted off for “Birds of a Feather,” waving his white flag of surrender.

The rest of the set might as well have been a continuation of the first, featuring an eye-popping run of “Halley’s,” “Possum,” “Bug,” and “Heavy Things.” Trey tried to throw a setlist bone to the audience with an end-of-set “You Enjoy Myself,” but the band delivered a flat and lazy version. Oh well, ya’ can’t win em all! Thus we packed our bags and headed for Glens Falls.

What was fascinating about Rochester, however, was just how off course it was in relation to the rest of the tour. Phish are human beings after all, but this show was such an aberration from any other of fall (and even summer), it almost made no sense. On Sunday night they played their best set of tour in Hampton and on Tuesday they sounded like a JV jamband on dirty acid. Go figure. Such is the nature of live music I suppose. They say, you can’t have the highs without the lows, so I guess we needed one night to remind us just how special all the others were. It worked.

10.22.13 Rochester, NY (Jake Silco)

10.22.13 Rochester, NY (Jake Silco)


Jams of the Day:

Winged-music-noteCrosseyed” 10.22 II, Rochester, NY

Listen to how different and disconnected this jam sounds compared to any other jam from fall.

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378 Responses to “Revisiting Rochester”

  1. garretcorncob Says:


    I haven’t spun any Kanye at all, really, but Lou Reed really dug that album, for what it’s worth… Anybody who hasn’t read that review, it’s pretty interesting, even not having heard the album.

  2. Mr. Palmer Says:

    Few times I saw them live he tends to ramble .

    Kicking Television is a live album of theirs you may want to check out.

    They have a lot of cool and spacey, jammed outros to a lot of their songs and cool segues.. I wouldn’t say they jam in the phish sense.. It’s more of a experimental noise thing.

  3. garretcorncob Says:

    Also, I usually find the AV Club’s best music ballots more interesting and useful than the top 23 list

  4. garretcorncob Says:

  5. little umbrellas Says:

    three people who’s taste i trust have rec’d ‘a ghost is born’ to me. check it Dubya.

    yeah i liked the Yezus album, but it wasn’t ‘great’
    will check the ballot list though, thanks Garret

  6. Jerome Garcia Says:

    Wonder if there’ll be any post Phish 12/30 meet ups to dab & watch NFL piece that first airs on ESPN2 @ 1:30AM on 12/31? I mean lots of folks are still gonna be wired at 1:30AM. If you’re casting just keep the party going. Recipe for epicness. You can smell it.

  7. little umbrellas Says:

    just got my ticket to see Kraftwerk at the Fox in Oakland.

    -Muzique, Non Stop!-

  8. jtran Says:

    I dig Wilco

    I also dig Yeezus

  9. George W. Kush Says:

    can’t watch NFL film if you are rocking with Dead Sessions & Heavy Pets or Marco Benevento on 12.30 after the Madison Square Garden of Infinite Pleasantries.

  10. snow Says:

    @bingos- what was that book you were pamping about tripping and spirituality? Or maybe it was about the grateful dead? I think divine was in the title somewhere. blankspace’d.

    I grew to like WilCo cause Mrs Snow played in constantly when we first lived together. I went to shows but it got stale. I describe WilCo as dry… they have the energy/creativity/power of a great band but they keep their songs tight. Tweedy is clearly Anti-jam.
    I realized that I like my music sweet… I want things messy and unpredictable. No more WilCo shows for me.

  11. little umbrellas Says:

    well i dont know Wilco, but I know Bobbie’s been showin up and playin with em.
    They even played Dark Star…. jammy?

  12. little umbrellas Says:


  13. Jerome Garcia Says:

    True George. I’d be at Marco if I were in the City. But that’s not everyone. Lots of post show dabs in hoteys through the Five Boroughts.

  14. Jerome Garcia Says:

    AmericanaramA Tour lilum. Bobby sat in w/ Wilco & MMJ. Check it:

  15. Jerome Garcia Says:

    Audio stream of Anders’ 2nd Annual Holiday Spectular through Phoncert on Fri & Sat. Think its gratis.

  16. RoosterPizza Says:

    I don’t care what you guys say about the whale, SPAC Steam is the fucking business.

  17. RoosterPizza Says:


  18. HeadyBrosevelt Says:

    @little u- that is rad. i would love to see kraftwerk. too bad they aren’t coming near colorado. that is going to be a spectacle!

  19. George W. Kush Says:

    just saw Dave Chapelle is coming to my town soon. $66 is pretty steep for that show. Any BBers go recently to his show? Worth the dough? ho ho ho?

    Also, John Mayer is a cheeseball but he can play some geetar. Anyone seen him recently? Does he play his girly stuff or does he rock gritty blues like he used to with his Trio band?

  20. sumodie Says:

    Heard great reports of that Americana tour last summer. All the bands but Dylan kept it loose with lotsa cross collaborations (Wilco, My morning jacket, richard thompson, bob weir)

  21. Jerome Garcia Says:

    Gatdang my spelling & grammar are deplorable today. My sincere apologies.

    BGCA Steam > Dicks Steam > SPAC Steam

    I dig em all though.

    Steam Fluffer

  22. Jerome Garcia Says:

    Think Kaveh did @ First Avenue…

  23. Jerome Garcia Says:

    Heard a few snipets from this interview broadcast on All Things Considered on Turkey Day. Might answer some of your questions Jorge.

  24. DavidSilver Says:

    Maybe a little more info if you remember snow. All 3 of those are my wheelhouse. I love to read. Would love some new recs from peeps. Only thing I don’t really dig are mysteries and nonfiction, excepting bios.

  25. sumodie Says:

    Silver, the autobios of Patti Smith & Keef Richards are terrific

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