Tour Talk Thread

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  1. wilbard Says:

    Holly Bowling: Terrapin Station Suite

  2. bobby weird Says:

    is it wrong that i covet her boobies?

  3. wilbard Says:

    ^ comprehensible.

    What are the best 3.0 Ghosts? Asking for a friend.

  4. vapebraham Says:

    miner: yes. for sure. simply means an exceptionally great version of Bag. that version has a great feel – clean, dialed. Boise bag is in a class of its own.

  5. wilbard Says:

    Other than the holy ghost and Mexico

  6. vapebraham Says:

    last 4 minutes of Gorge ’16 Meatstick – $$$ regardless of song or context. pure floyd meets funkadelic.

  7. Guitarpicker420! Says:

    So, I am still digging into the dataset I got on Phish show going habits. One thing that is kind of startling to me, and I can’t say it with anything definitive yet because I’m still analyzing the statistical significance, but it certainly appears that folks who have started seeing Phish in 2.0 and 3.0 are more devoted. What I did was look at the mean number of shows seen by year starting to see the band. Not surprising, the earlier you started seeing Phish, the more shows you saw on average. Even more, the earlier you started, the more shows you saw per year on average. Those who started in 1992 saw on average 4.6 shows per active year. Those who started in 1998 saw on average 4.0 shows per active year. However, each Phish year is not created equally. Phish used to play many more shows than they do today. So I crafted a “devotion quotient” which looked at mean number of shows seen by year started divided by the total number of possible shows seen (estimating by using 1/2 of the total number of shows from the first year and all shows from subsequent years). When you look at that number, the top 5 years of the 17 with enough data to be significant, occured since 2003. In other words, people who started seeing shows since 2003 have seen a greater proportion of possible shows than people who started seeing shows in 1.0. Still trying to figure out if that means anything, or is just a factor of shorter tours. Fun with statistics!

  8. [Not Tom] Says:

    In cycling they categorize mountains on a 5 category scale.

    Category 4 – easiest
    Category 3 –
    Category 2 –
    Category 1 –
    Hors Catégorie (“HC”), i.e. “beyond categorization” – hardest

    I’d say that your $$$ classification also has an “HC” category that versions like the Boise Bag fall into.

  9. lumpyhead Says:

    but fist leg seems to check out, relatively?

    re: fall tour

  10. lumpyhead Says:

    would love to do vegas and worcester or something like worcester

  11. [Not Tom] Says:

    @ gp420 – my guess is people who started seeing Phish in 2.0 are younger and therefore have more flexibility in their lives to still go see Phish. They may also have felt like the rug got pulled out from under them (I mean they only got 1.5 years of Phish their first go ’round really) so they may have been more eager to get back on the train. Probably a lot more 1.0’ers out there who feel like they got theirs back in the day.


  12. [Not Tom] Says:

    @Lumpy – First leg came from that guy @attyatloew on PT, and he’s been pretty solid as a sourcey source for the last 2-3 years.

    The second leg got added by some schmo, as far as I can tell.

    You’ll get your Vegas. I wouldn’t even be surprised if you get your Halloween show, just on 10/30 instead.

  13. Guitarpicker420! Says:

    @nt – good points. I always tend to relate it back to myself. I will be seeing my 97th show this summer, sunday of Dick’s. 4 shows total this summer, creek and 3 at dick’s. The 4 shows is the most I’ve seen since 2010, when I also saw 4. Not coincidentally, I have 2 kids, a mortgage, a wife, who will see her 10th show this summer but only goes so that we can hang out together without the kids!, etc. Just can’t hit shows the way somebody younger with less tying them down can.

  14. vapebraham Says:

    if u saw 1.0 – you’re most likely in your 40’s
    if u came up w/ 2.0 -you’re most likely in your 30’s
    if u came up w/ 3.0 -you’re most likely in your 20’s

  15. [Not Tom] Says:

    I’m an outlier and probably throw your stats off a bit.

    First show 1994
    1.0 shows: 16
    2.0 shows: zero
    3.0 shows 68

    But my scrip got flipped a bit. I did my domestic time from ’98-’08 and then started acting like a youngster in ’09. I hit more shows last year in 2015 than any year since I started seeing Phish (and what a year it was!).

  16. Guitarpicker420! Says:

    Mine breaks down thusly:

    1.0: 64 shows
    2.0: 4
    3.0: 27 (with 3 more to go this summer)

    My peak year was 98 with 18 shows, I was 23 and 24 then.

  17. Guitarpicker420! Says:

    That means I saw nearly 30% of all 1998 shows. No wonder I was broke back then!

  18. More Says:

    No 10/31???
    Probably tired of the pressure/expectations on that date

  19. [Not Tom] Says:

    10/31 is on a Monday this year. Communities all over ‘merica been celebrating holidays on alternate days (out of convenience) for a while now, especially Halloween’s trick-or-treating.

    Guarantee at least all the fans are decked out on 10/30 for Halloween, even if the band doesn’t put on a “costume.”

  20. phishm Says:

    “that dick’s dwd is truly life music”

    Absolutely. I’d say it changed my life, but that happened a few years ago.

  21. dorn76 Says:

    I’m not “in my 40’s” if I’m only 40, right?

    It’s all gravy at this point. 120 shows in. About 50 in 1.0, just a handful in 2.0 and the majority(!) in 3.0.

    I’ve custy’d up pretty hard since the return. Married me a wife, she’s been supportive all my life.

  22. Selector J Says:

    @GP420 – I don’t have my show-going stats off hand but I’d agree that age plays a major factor. I saw most of my shows in 1.0 and 2.0 which were my teens and 20s despite the hiatuses encompassing most of my 20s.

    My shows per year in 3.0 is abysmal because
    A) have kids/being an adult,
    B) moved to Texas in 04.
    Similar “devotion” but way less flexibility and/or opportunity.

  23. dorn76 Says:

    All I know is I’m 2x a 60 show noob.

    Come at me, brahs.

  24. phishm Says:

    Bring it dorn.

  25. dorn76 Says:

    Opportunity is really the thing up here, and since the return I’ve had a paying job! I remember vividly financing tour stops in ’98-’99 with freshly minted credit cards, $2k limits a pop.

    Mrs. dorn inherited some debt when we married in ’02.

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