Why Not Simulcast?

Hampton (S.Mailer)

Hampton (Unk)

Following yesterday’s ticket discussion, I wanted to address one suggestion that was brought up- simulcasts.  With the ticket situation as bad as it is, and fans being shut out of shows across the country, why would Phish not offer live streaming versions of all their shows- audio and/or video?  While certainly not a substitute for being at the show, this would draw in far more of the community to each concert and provide legitimate Phish experiences for thousands upon thousands of people.  They did it for Brooklyn, they did it for Coventry- why not do it for every show from here on out?

With management’s focus seemingly on the dollar this time around, the idea of paid streaming simulcasts would be another huge revenue stream of virtually 100% profit.  The overhead needed to film the shows would be minimal, depending on how advanced they wanted to get.  A simple one-angle frame of the band would work just fine; one camera on a tripod at the soundboard- something they have done for most of their career.  The organization could then broadcast an audio and/or video feed over the internet-  $5 for streaming audio, $10 for streaming video- and the problem of pissed off and left out fans would be greatly reduced.  Then people would click right over and buy the downloads- cha-ching.  Even if there were no ticket issues, this should be an available service.

"Harry Hood" 3.6.09 (S.Mailer)

"Harry Hood" 3.6.09 (Unk)

It was shocking that Phish didn’t run some sort of simulcast for the comeback show in Hampton- the most anticipated show in Phish history.  And with the current economic climate, this idea would allow many more fans to join in the fun of Phish each and every night.  This will not solve the ticket issue per se, but it would soothe the burn of being shut out, and could be a permanent fixture of 3.0.

This all points back to the question, does Phi$h Inc. care about the fans at all?  If so, something should have been put into action already.  With Live Nation, Music Today, Ticketmaster, and Red Light all in bed with each other, there seems to be a huge music business monopoly forming; one that favors their big clients- and now that includes Phish.  So I stick by my question, is the plight of Phish fans a concern for Red Light Management?  Is it even in their top ten lists of concerns?  I don’t know.

Hampton (S.Mailer)

Hampton (Unk)

This much I do know.  If people were able to have an HD tour package, where they could watch the show unfold in real time every night, there would be a lot less bitterness in the community.  In no way am I suggesting this would be a replacement for the show experience, but it would be a real-time version of “No Spoilers”- everyone would freak out simultaneously.  In addition, providing a substitute for the tour experience for an older and less mobile fan base, this would allow many more people to stay in the loop.  You could order show by show or in a package- just like the LivePhish downloads.  It’s a cash cow staring the organization in the face, and I sincerely wonder why they aren’t addressing it.

Hampton (S.Mailer)

Hampton (Unk)

To refute one possible counter argument, any simulcasting would have zero effect on ticket sales- this much should be obvious.  With such absurdly high demand, tickets would still sell out in minutes, and then Phish could start adding to the stack by selling streaming versions of their shows.  It sure seems like a no-brainer to me.  People could then congregate, party, and dance together- even if it’s not in the pavilion or the lawn.  Hearing the magic unfold defines the Phish experience, and this set-up would allow so many more fans to do just that.  Sure, we know the organization has been pared down to a minimalist structure for the sustainability of the band,  but what about the sustainability of the fans?

Perhaps this is all in the works and we just don’t know it yet.  But if so, why not?  Throw us a bone; why must we live in a vacuum?  The band that had grown so renowned for their intimate fan relations has now outsourced the job to a corporate entity seriously lacking communication skills.  Hell, they only announced that Hampton downloads would be available three days in advance!  The band’s website remains largely stagnant and could be a renewed place of interaction.  A post or two from a band member, even some gibberish from Mike, would go miles in helping things out.  Without the Schvice, and removed from any “formal” interaction with the band, we no longer get a glimpse into their quirky, Phishy world.  I guess we will wait and see.

Hampton (S.Mailer)

Hampton – Photo: Jeff Volckhausen



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12.31.93 The Centrum, Worcetser, MA < LINK

12.31.93 The Centrum, Worcetser, MA < TORRENT LINK

New Years Run 1993

New Years Run 1993

Today we have one of the classic New Year’s Eve shows in the band’s history.  Coming to you by a reader request, be sure you don’t miss out in this FMSBD copy of this evening.  This show features one of the most genius moves in Phish history- segueing out of “Auld Lang Syne” into the debut of the “Down With Disease Jam” before the song had ever been played!  Man, I wish I had been there for this one!

I: Llama, Guelah Papyrus, Stash, Ginseng Sullivan, Reba > Peaches en Regalia, I Didn’t Know, Run Like an Antelope*

II: Tweezer, Halley’s Comet > Poor Heart, It’s Ice, Fee, Possum, Lawn Boy, You Enjoy Myself

III: Auld Lang Syne > Down With Disease Jam#, Split Open and Melt, Lizards, Sparkle, Suzy Greenberg, HYHU > Cracklin’ Rosie > HYHU, Harry Hood, Tweezer Reprise

E: Golgi Apparatus, Amazing Grace

*With Tom Marshall on vocals. #Debut of “Down With Disease” jam; the song was not played. 04-04-94 Burlington

Source: FMSBD

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295 Responses to “Why Not Simulcast?”

  1. Davey Says:

    Henry Hollands figured out how to do it too. Dunno how it’s done.

  2. SOAM Says:

    My job makes me nod more than Jerry during set break-fucking boring existence.

    I’m starting a Bad Company cover band fuck it……

    don’t you know…..

  3. oneshowatatime Says:

    I think it’s just the profile picture from my wordpress account… just shows up whenever I post. Am I the only one here with a wordpress login or what?

  4. Weyoun42 Says:

    Hey, since today seems to be jigger-with-the-format-of-the-page-day, what are the chances of being able to jump right to the comments for a day’s post from right under the post title at the top as well as at the bottom? I’m just lazy and don’t feel like scrolling down through the long initial post of Miner’s (that I’ve probably already read twice by 9:00am) each of the several dozen times I come back to check the comments throughout the workday. Even if not, I’m liking the changes!

  5. Davey Says:

    Let’s see if that worked.

  6. AlexanderK Says:


    Ohhhhh.. totally makes sense. I think that it utilizes OpenID to identify you.

  7. Davey Says:

    Didn’t work.

  8. ub40 Says:


    if you click on the title of today’s post, it takes you to the comments page

  9. Chalkdustin Says:

    @ Alex, I was looking at your site and that print ad you did for Miner’s site is pretty sweet. Was that used anywhere?

  10. Davey Says:

    Let’s see if this worked.

  11. Davey Says:

    Didn’t work. I give up.

  12. guyforget Says:

    “a phish show on tv is like phone sex–it’ll do but it aint too cool” – SOAM

    Greatest line ever!!

  13. Davey Says:

    Ya, 😀 nothing like the real thing.

  14. AlexanderK Says:


    Yes, it was in the “Surrender To The Flow” magazines that were going around at Hampton. Unfortunately the printer royally screwed up the design by skewing it to fit into a box instead of cropping it. I’m hoping we can use it in a better looking setting in the future!

  15. Davey Says:

    Oh god it did work. I’ll remove it. Don’t want my first-born on the web.

  16. Davey Says:

    Ok. I got rid of it. Might take a few minutes to show up corrected but it’s gone. Just to be clear, you don’t want custom avatars right Miner?

  17. Mr. Completely Says:

    hey AlexanderK, ur a good designer. Your portfolio page would get you an in-person interview with us, which is saying more than it sounds like since we’re pretty picky ;o)

    If I still knew anyone in the Bay Area in the actual web biz I’d try to hook you up but everyone has moved on either in terms of location or industry.

    Best of luck to you, I did freelance web and print design for many years, it is fun life for young person (not so much with a mortgage but that’s another story).

  18. voopa Says:

    While I’d love the option of tuning in for any and every show, I think that would backfire eventually. If they are “back for good” as promised, knowing that every show will be broadcasted (in whatever form it ends up being done) will decrease the value of the show experience over the long term, and shows will no longer sell out.

    Wait, that means I’ll get tickets! Alright then, bring it on!

    And congrats on the hosting, Mr. Miner. Thanks to Alex for the hard work on the css and comments too.

  19. Davey Says:

    There we are, back to good ol’ blue checkerboard.

    @ voopa, I think all the hooplah will die down pretty soon anyway. If they truly are back for good then after these first tours once everyone who never saw them get’s their “fix” it’ll be back to normal.

  20. DC Says:

    I know I am one of few, but would have no interest in watching a show I was not at on TV or a movie screen.

    The intangibles that make a show experience what it is cannot be put in words and certainly cannot be reproduced in my living room or a movie theater.

    If this is your thing, however, good luck you’ll see me in the crowd getting down

  21. R1 Says:


    Nice work – enjoying the changes.

    Just a note – whenever I refresh the comments page after coming back from being away, I am taken to page 6 of comments for some reason.

  22. Davey Says:

    @ R1 – Must be something with your browser/OS what are you using?

  23. old dude Says:

    do not want to see SOAM sing “feel like making love”

  24. old dude Says:

    and it don’t stop

  25. Chalkdustin Says:

    Alex, I think I have one of those publications somewhere from Hampton somewhere- I’ll have to find it! Anyway, nice work on that. I’ve made a few posters here and there for small shows in Milwaukee for fun so I appreciate the work you do- especially on here! It’s all gooooooood!

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