Minerese: Vol. II

12.31.09 (W.Rogell)

Yesterday’s post turned out to be so much fun, I figured we’d segue right into “Minerese, Volume II.” Yesterday we tackled some basic terminology, though I’ve been known to use more colorful language to paint the picture of a Phish jam. Today, I plucked out some of more vibrant terms I’ve dropped from time to time, and dug up some audio excerpts to define them.


“Colorful Molasses”

When the music gets so thick you feel like you are swimming through a larger-than-life ocean of groove, you’ve entered the realm of colorful molasses. These tar-thick rhythmic textures create a liquid reality where the gooey grooves engulf your existence. In this case I’ve juxtaposed a classic dose with a portion from ’09.

[audio:http://phishthoughts.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/molasses2.mp3] [audio:http://phishthoughts.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/molasses1.mp3]


“Drone Landscapes”

11.21.09 (W.Rogell)

Often times, Phish enters a phase of the jam characterized by its total lack of melody. Often in conjunction with more eerie experiments, these segments are comprised of heavily effected, and often repetitive, musical phrases. These landscapes resemble alien sonic brews that Phish creates in migrating between musical planes.

[audio:http://phishthoughts.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/drone1.mp3] [audio:http://phishthoughts.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/drone2.mp3]


“Crack-like Grooves”

These grooves feel so good, you just gotta’ have more! These fiercely-addictive dance patterns are the musical equivalent of choice hubba rocks. Time and space stand still when high on Phish crack.

[audio:http://phishthoughts.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/crack1.mp3] [audio:http://phishthoughts.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/crack2.mp3]


“Bass-led Jihad”

Michael Gordom (T.Stack)

Michael Gordon (T.Stack)

This eclectic term is reserved for those segments of absolute Mike-driven annihilation. In these crusades, Gordon’s bass lines anchor the rhythm while, simultaneously, carrying the lead melody. Trey and Page settle into the background while Mike steps front and center as the dynamic leader of the band. Taking no prisoners, Mike’s offerings shower the audience with relentless attacks of bass warfare.

[audio:http://phishthoughts.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/jihad1.mp3] [audio:http://phishthoughts.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/jihad2.mp3]

(For those trying to identify these excerpts, the task should be much easier today with more well-known selections.)


Jam of the Day:

Mike’s Song > Sparks > Curtis Loew” 8.2.93 II

A classic sequence from Tampa, Florida, kicking off August ’93.




6.11.00 Hibiya Outdoor Theatre, Tokyo, Japan < Torrent

6.11.00 Hibiya Outdoor Theatre, Tokyo, Japan < Megaupload

Hibiya Park, 6.11.00 (J.Greene)

This afternoon show took place a half-day after Phish ended their show the night before at Zepp. Taking place within Hibiya Park in central Tokyo, this show facilitated connections between Japanese and American fans in a way that small nightclubs couldn’t. Check out my take on the show, written only hours after it concluded.

I: First Tube, Punch You In the Eye, Horn, Ginseng Sullivan, Stash, Dirt, Possum, It’s Ice, Farmhouse

II: Birds of a Feather, Free, Beauty of My Dreams, Bug, David Bowie, When the Circus Comes, Back on the Train, Harry Hood

E: Character Zero

Source: Unknown


788 Responses to “Minerese: Vol. II”

  1. Bad Nirvana Cover Band Says:

    bury the meatsticktime, baby!

    I keep hoping to find a post of top ballads. Miner won’t comply. Still like downloading free shows off the site though. Individually tracked, so I can skip the ‘jammy’ stuff.

  2. flarrdogg Says:

    I enjoy the drive-by-poster bitch slap that ensues after the drive-by.

    Where is my boy Jon and his insulted intelligence?

  3. joe Says:

    I just don’t really understand the whole negative commenter culture of the internet (note: I haven’t read any other comments except this page). It seems to me like the worst kind of energy spent to sit home on your computer blasting whatever story/blog/whatever that you are reading. You can constructively engage in debate but most comment sections on the internet are mostly infested with the worst kind of hit and run negative posters. I guess it fufills some kind of missing void in their lives. I know that it can get a little frustrating in the reverse here with everyone being so positive and nice to each other but I’d take that 100% of the time over most of the bs out there.

    so, thanks to Mr. Miner for being a force of positive energy in the virtual universe. (and for giving us access and insight into some great music)

  4. joe Says:

    I haven’t read any of the comments the last few days here I should say

  5. bouncin fan Says:

    Bet he knows the dance

  6. flarrdogg Says:

    meatsticktime is a great handle. Is it Robear in disguise?!?! 8)

  7. BingosBrother Says:

    Lycan fo sho.

  8. Robear Says:

    flarr, today’s post sent him packing. back to back insults.

    who doesn’t love crazy lingo and slang?

  9. bouncin fan Says:

    Quick show of hands
    Don’t be shy

    Who has ever puffed hubbas while listening to a hubba crack like groove

    No were talking

  10. flarrdogg Says:

    Robear- I’m gonna hit you up on fb sometime this week. I’ve been doing some volunteer work for a local salmon enhancement asscoc. for a service learning project. Mostly removing invasive species and planting natives. Would love to sponge some knowledge from you.

    later goblins

  11. Robear Says:

    did miner ever post the snippet solutions?

  12. voopa Says:


  13. Robear Says:

    nice flarr. i could put you in touch with the peeps. click my name. the srrc is a nationally recognized grass roots group at noxious weed removal.

    phamily b, saw your post earlier re: Waterwheel. stoney case. slow response time. sounds like it’s perfect for them. I love it. as far as phanhood, it’s a slight trade off. you go in early, and you staff the booth before show, set break, and immediately after. you don’t get a hard ticket, so you have to go with the flow or jedi, which can be tough in pairs. hit me up for more info. the guy that runs it is good friend of mine.

    u 2 flarr, i hardly use FB.

    humboldt rob at g mail dot com

  14. bouncin fan Says:

    Radio silence

    AW ain’t the only one

    Someone will step up

  15. garretc Says:

    @Mr. C

    Hmm, well, I don’t have much comparison between these matrixes and any others or SBDs, or auds, really, for that matter, when it comes to Dead shows, but these sure do sound a hell of a lot better than the Phish auds I hear…

    Not that it’s central to the meaning of your post, but to satisfy curiosity, what do mean by “phasing issues” and the being too forgiving thereof?

  16. Selector J Says:

    i wish, bouncin.
    Can never find a crack-like groove when I got the hubba and can never find the hubba when I got the crack-like groove. 😉

  17. Mr. Completely Says:

    sorry bouncin’ – we didn’t call it hubba back in my day, all the rocks I ever smoked were ones I based down myself, and I wasn’t into Phish yet when I was doin that anyway

    I’d own it if I did

    now freebasing all night while playing backwards chess under a blacklight and listening to Blues for Allah and Little Feat – that I’ve done

    so kinda close but not exactly

  18. Lycanthropist Says:


    but not to phish

  19. bouncin fan Says:


    Close enough

    I’ll find at least one other white trasher like myself

  20. Mr. Completely Says:


    a well done matrix is the bomb, superior to all but that very rare Christiania level AUD and pretty much any 2-track sbd – just to make it clear I’m on board in general

    for many years there were a lot of shitty matrixes because people didn’t take the time to do them manually. A proper matrix (especially from analog masters) has to be synchronized between the 2 sources on a nearly frame-by-frame basis which is an exceedingly time consuming task. But Hunter does that part and usually gets it right.

    Phasing is an audio distortion phenomenon where the sound waves are arriving at the left and right channels at slightly different times, so the channels are “out of phase” with each other. Some amount of phasing is common, or really ubiquitous, to stereo audience recordings but is minimal in the good ones. It is most often perceptible in the decay of a sustained cymbal hit – what should be a TSHHHHHHHhhhhhhhh…. becomes TSHHHhhhhSHHHhhhSHHhhhshhhh… kind of rolling sound.

    It can be somewhat exacerbated by matrixing with a clean SBD, because the SBD is phasing-free, so when the two are laid on top of each other the phased signal may stand out more in contrast with the steady signal. In other cases, the SBD can mask the AUD phasing. I’ve never been clear on what kind of difference in the sources causes this.

    With a distorted SBD the effect is much worse and can approximate the horribly destructive effects of compressing a phased AUD. Basically, adding together two dirty signals seems to multiply the noise, creating a sound that is just downright weird to listen to.

    The best matrixes IMO combine a “too-clean” SBD (such as some of the early 70s reels or especially the early-80s cassette masters) with overly separated instruments and no warmth, with a raunchy, in-your-face FOB that by itself would lack the ideal clarity and separation.

  21. bouncin fan Says:

    I can actually remember putting on phish and waiting for the head ringing


    Oh to be young and dumb again

  22. Selector J Says:

    Ballz. I only get half a gig of bandwidth per week on the school’s network and uploading albums and watching that wild ’60 minutes’ video has me nearly maxed out… and it’s Thursday. Gotta remember to upload from home for now on.

    speaking of uploading… 3 things:
    1) I noticed in the Have Mercy folder that no one had downloaded the Have Mercy version “All Gone” track by Trinity. Turns out I had it password protected by accident. That’s fixed if anyone wants it.

    2) Can everyone DL by folder or is that just me since it’s my account? I seem to remember this being an issue before. If not I’ll zip up the albums and re-up them.

    3) If you ain’t got any plans tonight, may I suggest DLing that ‘Best Dressed Chicken…,’ get baned, and crank it to eleven. It’s an all-timer.

    Off to dinner…
    see y’all later

  23. bouncin fan Says:

    Laterz kids

    Off for a run by the lake

    Some nice asses out this evening

  24. Mr. Completely Says:

    Check out 1-22-78 Eugene to see what I mean, you can find it on the Archive I’m sure. It’s interesting to compare the SBD and matrix sources – plus, it has the best Terrapin of the Keith era and a rightfully legendary Close Encounters envelope-filter solo by Jerry. And a real nice Jack Straw if I remember right.

  25. Mr. Completely Says:

    ^^^ lot of high grade Prankster acid in attendance that night according to peeps I know who were there

    ah Eugene

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