Questions For 2011

12.31.2010 (George Estreich)

* Will Phish ever focus on open jamming again? — After Fall and New Year’s Run, the band is as tight as ever and communicating with ease…now let’s really take it places! With proficiency an issue of the past, and a full season of smoking improv under their belt, why was the amount of exploration limited last week — and from lessened from summer to fall? Whenever the band chooses to take musical risks, they have a near-100% success rate these days, but after the New Year’s Run, I wondered why they only shot for such excursions about once per show? (27th: “Seven Below” 28th:”Harry Hood,” 30th:”Tweezer > Light” 12/31:”Ghost,” 1/1:”Simple”) With four of those five selections finding pure gold, the question that begs asking is, “Why isn’t Phish digging more?

* Will Phish play a July 4th festival at Watkins Glen, New York? — The rumor mill has been spinning on this one for quite some time now…

* When will we see a new jam vehicle debut? — “Light” has been an all-world performer since its rookie season of ’09, creating sound sculptures of all shapes and sizes. But it needs a new, modern running mate to continue pushing Phish into the improvisational beyond.

*With the material from Joy fully integrated into the catalog, will we see a new batch of songs this year? — A constant influx of new material has always kept Phish’s rotation fresh throughout their career, and they’ve never been shy about pushing it. With little music of impact debuted in 2010, it seems about time for another installment of tunes. Hopefully there are more Trey and Tom songs where “Pigtail” came from…

12.31.2010 (George Estreich)

* Will Phish adopt a launch pad from “Exile” and/or “Waiting For Columbus?” — Over the past two years, Phish has covered two iconic double-albums from rock and roll history, yet, for whatever reason, the band hasn’t fully fused any Phishified covers from these records into their catalog. “Shine A Light” is a great encore and”Fat Man” is a great song, but looking at their previous three Halloween albums, they adopted “Drowned,” “Crosseyed and Painless” and Rock and Roll” — staples of their live show and primary trampolines into other worlds. What ever happened to “Torn and Frayed?” No “Spanish Moon” over the Holiday Run? C’mon now…let’s not rest on the past…

*When, if ever, will Phish do a west coast swing? — Sure, quality over quantity… Indio…Greek…blah…blah…blah. West coast swings of lore are some of the greatest memories of Phish tours past. Despite their age and east coast roots, even if only once this era, Phish should hit up a week-plus long run up or down the left coast, from San Diego to Seattle and all the beautiful places in between.

12.27.2010 (A.Hill)

* Will Trey and/or Mike do a winter tour like last year? — Phish’s schedule has been close to clockwork since their return, so does that mean we will see a Trey Tour before Phish plays again? Strong srumors of Phish headlining the Hangout Festival on the Gulf Coast of Alabama between May 20-22, would place any solo circuits in the winter or early spring of 2011.

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Harry Hood” 12.28 II

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DOWNLOAD OF THE DAY:

12.28.2010 DCU Center, Worcester, Massachusetts

Worcester Print (Masthay)

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I: Kill Devil Falls, My Mind’s Got a Mind of its Own, Alaska, She Caught the Katy, Wolfman’s Brother, Pigtail*, Stash, Bouncing Around the Room, Rift, Stealing Time From the Faulty Plan, The Birdwatcher*

II: Carini, Backwards Down the Number Line, Back on the Train > Limb By Limb, The Wedge, Frankie Says > Albuquerque, Harry Hood, Bug

E: Shine a Light

*debut

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1,010 Responses to “Questions For 2011”

  1. rivertrance Says:

    the thing about jam vehicles is that the rhythms and keys are similar in many of them

    the original feel of 7 below is maybe why it made the cut and others didn’t

    I mean you only need a few one chord vamp funk jams or open one chord psychedelic jams

    although the songs themselves vary slightly in their composition once they get into the jam the tones of the jams and the places they go are very similar

    I guess my point is it’s irrelevant what songs these jams come out of cuz many of the jams go to the same places. it’s what they play in these jams that needs to go to creative spaces more frequently IMO.

  2. Guyute711 Says:

    Will Phish continue their love affair withe the south? This guy hopes so. Not only have they taken time to play in the south but the shows were all quite good.

  3. KfL Says:

    sometimes when it snows it is really beautiful and uplifting

    other times it’s incredibly depressing

    /syracuse’d

  4. rivertrance Says:

    my other wish for 2011 besides seeing more sets like 1/1/2011

    is the rumors of 3 nights at UIC I keep starting finally comes to fruition

    and it goes unsaid. at least a 6 show run through California and up the western coast

  5. KfL Says:

    i mentioned yesterday that my one ‘complaint’ about the new years run was the lack of open jams, with the qualifier that i had no such complaints while seeing the run – i was floored each night, and there was at least one top notch jam each night, from -7 to simple, to keep me plenty happy

    but if there is one thing this band does in 3.0, it is jam. and yes i mean that. they improvise all night long in most shows, it just happens to be what we call type I

    someone needs to do some mixes of just the jams, because i think it will take cutting the jam off from the song segment to really show how much these guys are improvising

    it just tends to come in 3-4 minute pockets

  6. nonoyolker Says:

    That is a good point AW for a lot of those songs. From my admittedly limited knowledge of music, I know the jam Scents begins in a simple back and forth from G to D. This jam could happen in any song.

    For me though, the feel of the jam is sculpted initially by the emotion of the song. Scents is ethereal and gorgeous, spawning a delicate jam at first (like an improv Reba jam). The big one is ASIHTOS because it has that gully, dark back alley feel to it. Phish have some of these in their arsenal already (Tweezer, Ghost, Sand), but I felt at the time that this was the new jams with balls. Waves has its own feel too – seemingly mellow, but something potentially dark lurking, like swimming drunk in the ocean at night – fun, but you know some serious shit may go down.

  7. KfL Says:

    the other factor in this equation is change

    they never stop evolving and developing new sounds and styles (staccato funk the latest twist on the 3.0 sound)

    and that alone tells me there will be at least one jam heavy tour before it’s all said and done

  8. sumodie Says:

    ^ rivertrance FTW!

  9. sumodie Says:

    in 2011 I have one wish

    more sets that look and sound like this please

    Crosseyed and Painless > Twist > Simple, Sneakin’ Sally through the Alley > Makisupa Policeman -> David Bowie

    Meaning this ^

  10. rivertrance Says:

    no doubt nono

    and I love ASIHTOS and Waves and agree they have somewhat of an original style to their jams

    I feel that the reworking of the Carini jams in the fall kind of went to that similar light and dark psychedelic space.

    This would be another example of what they can do with jam vehicles. they actually completely changed the direction we are used to in the fall almost as if they created a new jam vehicle.

  11. bhizzle Says:

    Howdy Lil Buddy…the fam brought the New Year in together. All the girls, but the littlest, were able to watch the ball drop. Unfortunately, I was only able to get a kiss from the better half. The rest are “too grown up” now – tweens! I hope yours went similar.

    In addition, I don’t believe this “Liquid Time” exists. The Great White Buffalo!

    The 2.0 songs are entirely missing, just the ones you really want to hear.

  12. bhizzle Says:

    aren’t^

  13. angryjoggerz Says:

    I personally like the more condensed and focussed open improv they are doing now than the 40 minute too fucked up to play stuff they did in 2.0. I do think it is a matter of quality and, as has been often mentioned here, that sometimes these 10 minutes jams feel like they are 25 minutes at the show, you really lose track of things when they are going well. I cannot believe that Timber at MSG was in the 5 minute mark, felt like a big one to me live, but it was because it was tight as well and pulled me into the rabbit hole.

    As long as things are moving forward, the band is having a great time, it is not a nostalgia thing and I dont have to watch any of them kill themselves on stage, I am good.

    Oh, and play Shafty in 2011.

  14. phoammhead Says:

    @aj

    well said

  15. nonoyolker Says:

    Agree completely re: the transformation of Carini. That was such a refreshing change, because up to that point it was getting painfully formulaic as to which songs were designated as jam vehicles.

    I just feel like more of these song need to be considered for jam vehicles. That was why the BOTT from Miami and Chalkdust from Camden blew up so hard – no one saw it coming. In the past, i think the boys were more willing to take different songs the distance, but as you said, the redesignation of Carini is an encouraging sign

  16. Lifeboyo Says:

    I’d love to see some PA/MD shows this winter. The new consol center in Pittsburgh, Bryce Jordan @ PSU, Wells Fargo Center in Philthadelphia. DC and Baltimore wouldn’t be bad either. You could follow up with Ohio, IL and then head out west. I wouldn’t begrudge the folks on the left coast though, they’ve had it rough for a while. It’s nice to see that the Broom is continuing to book big acts, I just saw that SCI is playing there soon.

  17. AintNoTele Says:

    VA beach is what I’ve been hearing. Not sure when it will be but I keep hearing it OFF of the internet

  18. kayatosh Says:

    we may not be getting more than one attempt at open jamming per night, but we are getting some very interesting intra-song experimentation and communication, which is what phish was about in the early days. open improv is a newer phenomena.

    12.30 fatman jumps out of that set as a winner, but it has no jamming to speak of. still highly satisfying. hearing a freshness in page’s tone, in trey’s tone, and in the texture of the songs. band getting tighter and more communicative. standout timber as well.

    i love it all.

  19. rivertrance Says:

    another welcome addition besides the jammed out Carini

    is what seems to be the return of Sand into somewhat regular rotation

    also laying off the Drowned and Rock n Roll’s every other night was a very good development

  20. halcyon Says:

    Morning everyone! Got back from a 6am yoga class, my second yoga class in a long long time. What a workout it is. Finally giving the NYE a proper listen this weekend. First week of the new year started like gangbusters, hoping it slows down.

    HHood from 12/28 is fun. I like it. The stacatto part reminds me of some carribean rhythms.

    I would like to see Halfway to The Moon, Liquid Time come out from their shells. Don’t be shy songs 🙂

    2011 will be a year of great music.

  21. kayatosh Says:

    they definitely started keeping the setlists more fresh as 201 wore on. it’s important not to wear a song out.

    no halfway to the moon this run was curious. that one’s a winner.

  22. AintNoTele Says:

    I think they have taken note that the staccato robofunk is a crowd pleaser.

    My only qualm is that it always leaves me wanting more. Take the greek cities for example (which is my personal fav cities ever), I would have loved trey to shred the pants off the end of that. He adds some great shimmering tones to that jam and lets the amoeba take over which was perfect, but a hard rocking lead to shred-fest a la the jump in tweezer would have sealed the deal for best jam of the 3.0 for me.

    Same goes for this hood. Its perfect up to the point when robofunk ends then it kind of fizzles out with an anticlimactic feel good ending. I like where these things are going though no doubt. I like it a lot

  23. kayatosh Says:

    gotta spin the greek cities pronto.

  24. EL Duderino Says:

    For those who have Mac’s here is the way to set up your audio for true 24bit/96kHz flac playback.

    Mac’s do not have sound cards. This is a big reason I could not the specs of my SC on the Mac… They have a chipset.

    To see your audio chipset’s settings:

    1) Go to Utilities in your Application Folder

    2) Click on Audio Midi Set Up

    3) Click on “Built-In Output”

    There are 2 drop down menus.
    One is for format… Choose your kHz here… should be set @ 96000.0
    the other is the 2 channel bit rate… should be set @ 2 channel 24 bit

    This should set up your computer for true 24/96 playback

  25. angryjoggerz Says:

    I second AW’s 3 nights at UIC suggestion. Why not make it a Thu-Sat run while we are at it?

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