Tour Talk Thread

Just resetting the comment section for Summer Tour.

14,019 Responses to “Tour Talk Thread”

  1. phishm Says:

    Is it strange that I’m totally fine with MP3’s?

  2. [Not Tom] Says:

    New Post from Miner … move over there fellas.

  3. voopa Says:

    You’re a move.

  4. Jerome Garcia Says:

    ‘took off for Shakedown shenanigans’ $$$+

  5. Jerome Garcia Says:

    phishm has a tinny ear.

  6. Jerome Garcia Says:

    Wook store disco?! You had me @ wook store.

  7. Jerome Garcia Says:

    is it wrong that i covet her boobies?

    ^no. So looking fwd to The Ogling. Sally knows Mr Bowling too. This might be my in!

  8. dorn76 Says:

    Keep posting here, @Jerome.

  9. Jerome Garcia Says:

    You’re a dandy mr dorn

  10. Jerome Garcia Says:

    Summer of skank!

    God I love Uncle Billy. So very much.

  11. Jerome Garcia Says:

    I’ll admit it. I’ve slept on Hooteroll! Hat tip to dusty for edifying me. Have been spinning ad nausea today. Uncle Martin’s South Side Strut. My kinda groove. Might be some of the sickest music Jer ever made. Feels like it’d be right at home late nt @ Maple Leaf during JF. Elevating.

  12. snowbank Says:

    @selector- we’ve been through this before. I’m still not convinced you are correct.

    so basics- we are sampling the sound X times per second. So at one instance, we have a measurement of the amplitude of the sound. The bit depth determines the amount of information captured for each measurement of the amplitude.

    That information increases the gradation of the amplitudes captured… just like with digital video. Simple digital video might just have 16 colors… but modern digital video has more data and allows for millions of gradation of color… 50 shades of grey, if you will.

    So, digital instruments are going to measure inputs (sounds waves, light waves) and then round that measurement to the nearest unit the data file will hold. All fifty shades of grey are just ‘grey’ with 8bit digital video.

    With more bit depth, there is more gradation to get more accurate measurements of the amplitude at each sample. Now, that gradation gets calibrated by the recorder. You could spread it across a huge frequency range in which case a small percentage of the range would capture audible data. That is the headroom of which you speak. But if the recording artist sets the range of frequency near the audible range, then we get more precise measurements of amplitudes.

    Now, this begs the question of whether that resolution does anything. At some point, like 1,000 bit, the extra gradation just doesn’t make much of a difference because the loss to rounding is so small.

    So yes, the nyquist sampling theorem sets the floor for the data needed to recreate a wave form. If you use that floor, you will get the wave form but we know from early computer audio that it doesn’t sound good to our ears. The more data, that better it sounds. 24bit sounds better than 16bit to many. I doubt 32bit would be noticeable.


    “In short, the more bits used by the computer to store each sample, the better the potential ratio of signal to noise.”
    from this article:

    T1AF till I die.

  13. Selector J Says:

    “At some point, like 1,000 bit, the extra gradation just doesn’t make much of a difference because the loss to rounding is so small.”

    – Exactly. This is the whole thing in a nutshell. Except it’s not 1000 bit, it’s < 16 bit which is ~66k "gradations" per sample. Turns out that that's plenty.
    Measurable =/= Perceptible

    There are a few other points I'd love to discuss re: your previous post (can't tell if you fully understand Nyquist Theorem or not, for one) but it's late.

    Maybe tomorrow we can see that ABX screenshot, @snow?

  14. dorn76 Says:

    Bring your Trapper Keeper, schools in.

  15. Jerome Garcia Says:

    Jacksonville & Nashvegas kang’d?

    Forum NMINML. Prob shouldn’t be spinning ’15. Gonna ruin myself.

  16. little umbrellas Says:

    Stranger Things

    Do It!

  17. HeadyBrosevelt Says:

    We crushed it last night, and this morning. Jerry fucking Garcia. Amazing friends, psychedelic cosmonauts. The mother fucking nightshift, rip to all the beautiful people.

  18. HeadyBrosevelt Says:

    See you fuckers in Nashville, hopefully Vegas

  19. HadToHaveThat Says:

    Mrs. Ren Here! Stepping out of the woodwork to join all you amazing people in the amazing rides Phish provides! Hopefully Miner puts this comment through, didn’t work last time…please allow this hopeful noob to join the circus!

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