Why Not Simulcast?

Hampton (S.Mailer)

Hampton (Unk)

Following yesterday’s ticket discussion, I wanted to address one suggestion that was brought up- simulcasts.  With the ticket situation as bad as it is, and fans being shut out of shows across the country, why would Phish not offer live streaming versions of all their shows- audio and/or video?  While certainly not a substitute for being at the show, this would draw in far more of the community to each concert and provide legitimate Phish experiences for thousands upon thousands of people.  They did it for Brooklyn, they did it for Coventry- why not do it for every show from here on out?

With management’s focus seemingly on the dollar this time around, the idea of paid streaming simulcasts would be another huge revenue stream of virtually 100% profit.  The overhead needed to film the shows would be minimal, depending on how advanced they wanted to get.  A simple one-angle frame of the band would work just fine; one camera on a tripod at the soundboard- something they have done for most of their career.  The organization could then broadcast an audio and/or video feed over the internet-  $5 for streaming audio, $10 for streaming video- and the problem of pissed off and left out fans would be greatly reduced.  Then people would click right over and buy the downloads- cha-ching.  Even if there were no ticket issues, this should be an available service.

"Harry Hood" 3.6.09 (S.Mailer)

"Harry Hood" 3.6.09 (Unk)

It was shocking that Phish didn’t run some sort of simulcast for the comeback show in Hampton- the most anticipated show in Phish history.  And with the current economic climate, this idea would allow many more fans to join in the fun of Phish each and every night.  This will not solve the ticket issue per se, but it would soothe the burn of being shut out, and could be a permanent fixture of 3.0.

This all points back to the question, does Phi$h Inc. care about the fans at all?  If so, something should have been put into action already.  With Live Nation, Music Today, Ticketmaster, and Red Light all in bed with each other, there seems to be a huge music business monopoly forming; one that favors their big clients- and now that includes Phish.  So I stick by my question, is the plight of Phish fans a concern for Red Light Management?  Is it even in their top ten lists of concerns?  I don’t know.

Hampton (S.Mailer)

Hampton (Unk)

This much I do know.  If people were able to have an HD tour package, where they could watch the show unfold in real time every night, there would be a lot less bitterness in the community.  In no way am I suggesting this would be a replacement for the show experience, but it would be a real-time version of “No Spoilers”- everyone would freak out simultaneously.  In addition, providing a substitute for the tour experience for an older and less mobile fan base, this would allow many more people to stay in the loop.  You could order show by show or in a package- just like the LivePhish downloads.  It’s a cash cow staring the organization in the face, and I sincerely wonder why they aren’t addressing it.

Hampton (S.Mailer)

Hampton (Unk)

To refute one possible counter argument, any simulcasting would have zero effect on ticket sales- this much should be obvious.  With such absurdly high demand, tickets would still sell out in minutes, and then Phish could start adding to the stack by selling streaming versions of their shows.  It sure seems like a no-brainer to me.  People could then congregate, party, and dance together- even if it’s not in the pavilion or the lawn.  Hearing the magic unfold defines the Phish experience, and this set-up would allow so many more fans to do just that.  Sure, we know the organization has been pared down to a minimalist structure for the sustainability of the band,  but what about the sustainability of the fans?

Perhaps this is all in the works and we just don’t know it yet.  But if so, why not?  Throw us a bone; why must we live in a vacuum?  The band that had grown so renowned for their intimate fan relations has now outsourced the job to a corporate entity seriously lacking communication skills.  Hell, they only announced that Hampton downloads would be available three days in advance!  The band’s website remains largely stagnant and could be a renewed place of interaction.  A post or two from a band member, even some gibberish from Mike, would go miles in helping things out.  Without the Schvice, and removed from any “formal” interaction with the band, we no longer get a glimpse into their quirky, Phishy world.  I guess we will wait and see.

Hampton (S.Mailer)

Hampton – Photo: Jeff Volckhausen



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12.31.93 The Centrum, Worcetser, MA < LINK

12.31.93 The Centrum, Worcetser, MA < TORRENT LINK

New Years Run 1993

New Years Run 1993

Today we have one of the classic New Year’s Eve shows in the band’s history.  Coming to you by a reader request, be sure you don’t miss out in this FMSBD copy of this evening.  This show features one of the most genius moves in Phish history- segueing out of “Auld Lang Syne” into the debut of the “Down With Disease Jam” before the song had ever been played!  Man, I wish I had been there for this one!

I: Llama, Guelah Papyrus, Stash, Ginseng Sullivan, Reba > Peaches en Regalia, I Didn’t Know, Run Like an Antelope*

II: Tweezer, Halley’s Comet > Poor Heart, It’s Ice, Fee, Possum, Lawn Boy, You Enjoy Myself

III: Auld Lang Syne > Down With Disease Jam#, Split Open and Melt, Lizards, Sparkle, Suzy Greenberg, HYHU > Cracklin’ Rosie > HYHU, Harry Hood, Tweezer Reprise

E: Golgi Apparatus, Amazing Grace

*With Tom Marshall on vocals. #Debut of “Down With Disease” jam; the song was not played. 04-04-94 Burlington

Source: FMSBD

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295 Responses to “Why Not Simulcast?”

  1. Mugician Says:

    As for Hampton Weekend Opener, I nearly passed out I was freaking out so much – so powerful.

  2. Selector J Says:

    Love the article today, Miner! Very late to the conversation today (I succeeded in staying away while at work, somehow) but you basically laid out in greater detail all that I would have mentioned.
    Kudos, again.

  3. Selector J Says:

    (I like all the fancy new stuff on the site layout, too. Looks great!)

  4. Bandnana Says:

    @Mugician Hampton Opener, I was there, and it is still funny as hell to me when I listen to the recording and the crowd goes crazy. Crazy like this is the return of almost 5 years, then when we realize fluff, we go up to this insane level. I still get tingly every time I listen to it, truely awesome.

  5. Mugician Says:

    Yeah.. the videos are just as good. Oh GOD! Divided Sky right after? Are you fucking kidding me guys? I downloaded the SBD’s right when they were available, and listened to all three concerts straight through that night. I still can’t get enough.

    I twitch just thinking about it sometimes, my god if I coulda been there…

  6. whole tour! Says:

    all of those hdtv hampton youtube videos are awesome….i watched the ac.dc bag with a friend who was there, and he swore he saw himself on the floor during the glow war.

  7. dyda Says:

    props to the ‘limestone jam’ – that 11 min space jam after waves is one of my favorites

  8. Mugician Says:

    > a rippin’ Bowie! That’s a GREAT section. Whole Tour!: hdtv hampton?

    When I do a search, all I get is Fluffhead and First Tube and then junk.

  9. Mugician Says:

    Does anyone else think Piper is one of Phish’s most absolutely beautiful and wonderful and never-get-old songs?

    …the words are the worlds I sailed upon
    Piper, Piper the red red worm
    awoke last night to the sound of the storm…

  10. wizzle1986 Says:

    didn’t initially like..then they started raging it

  11. Mugician Says:

    Are you talking about a specific version?

  12. KRIVRAQ Says:

    huh HA!!! happy APRIL FOOL’S and stuff

  13. KRIVRAQ Says:

    Oh, I see the board is running in Pacific time. Well, it’s 3am here in NJ, so it’s April already. Welcome the Island Tour comments again…..

  14. KRIVRAQ Says:

    @ Bandnana about Fluff opening crowd noise….

    When they busted out Destiny in Nassau, I knew it 3 seconds in. I was screaming, eyes popping out , jaw fell all the way down to the GA floor while crowd still was wondering what they were playing. Took them until lyrics started to realize what was happening. Listen to the crowd on THOSE tapes/CDs. One of the top 5 moments in my 83? shows.

  15. KRIVRAQ Says:

    goodnight all, DVR time….

  16. Jediketch Says:

    If it were up to me……..





    And For The Record:

    I’m Not Bitching !!!

    I’m just sayin…..


    “I Got A Funky Thing TO Get Into,
    Gonna Blow My Blues Away…”

  17. doglogz Says:

    My most overplayed, favored and newbie introducing show ever. I can’t wait to see these NYE shows available as Live Phish CD releases. They did the Halloweens, why not NYE’s?

    The Guelah, Reba>Peaches, Antelope, Tweezer and YEM gets the blood phlowin. My all time 2nd favorite show after 12/31/92. THE BEST HOOD for the holidays..

    Great mix and glad it was on 104.1 WBCN the next morning at 11am. “Is everybody in yet”?

  18. quazi motto Says:

    i agree about simulcast. i am 32 with a 2 year old, so my life has changed. for the best. my days of phish tour or gallavanting off to every show are numbered. i will take her to as many as we can go, and of course get into. simulcast would be awesome. i agree. and what are trey, mike, page and fish up too. either they kick it out to us, or ….shit….

  19. James Says:

    While I agree that simulcast is a pretty obvious way to go, us Mr Miner starting to sound a little bit like a whiney hippy? Me thinks yes.

  20. eliot Says:

    i’m confused by how you label them as phi$h, yet then point out they are not simulcasting audio/video thus missing out on another revenue stream. doesn’t the fact that they are not simulcasting contradict your claim that they are in it for the money?

    i think phish 3.0 is about the band caring about the four band members and letting everybody who wants to find fault find fault.

    a solution to the ticketing problem will happen…it’s just not simple.

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